Re: [lace] Category for Tenerife or Ruedas

[Anna Binnie]

Hi All
I make Teneriffe and am about to embark on Nanduti.

They are made differently but look similar.

They come from drawn thread work which is embroidered lace BUT

Teneriffe is made on a circular disc and I have a few that are other 
shapes (OK all home made). The base thread is held in place by pins that 
surround the disk. Initially the thread is woven over the base thread, 
some patterns are formed by knotting the decorative thread onto the base 
threads. The completed motifs are joined using a knotting stitch.


Nanduti is done in a similar way BUT the base thread is mounted on 
fabric after the centre is completed the the fabric is cut away. The 
motifs are joined at the initial setting up stage. First motif is free 
then the other motifs are joined as the base thread  is sewn on.


Now it is a type of needle lace but has some knotting as its base. 
Therefore take your pick. When I enter Teneriffe in shows I usually put 
it under needle lace since that is usually the closest category.


I hope this helps

Anna from a wintery Sydney

On 1/07/16 1:54 AM, Devon Thein wrote:

What category would you ascribe if you were cataloging a piece of Tenerife
lace or Spanish Ruedas? Under what words would you look for it? Would you
call it "Embroidered Net"?


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Re: [lace] Category for Tenerife or Ruedas

[Carolina de la Guardia]

Long...

​There is some confusion between "soles" , "ruedas" and "Canary's suns",
respect to "Teneriffe roses or suns"...

Originate in Castilla (Spain)  14th. and XVth cent. is the drawnwork​
called "Soles de Salamanca" (Salamanca's suns), "Soles del Casar" (Casar's
suns), "Soles Canarios" (Canary's suns) and "Puntos de Catalunya" (Catalunya
Stitches), all them take their name depending of the place that they were
made.

As it is usual in other laces, there are little differences between them:
The way that the drawnwork is reinforced on its edges, the shape of the
motifs, the combination of squares and circular bands that compound the
design, and the prior preparation of drawing the threads once the fabric or
linen is mounted on a framework or loom.
A minimum of a 50% of threads have to be drawn out, to be considered
"lace". The usual motifs: "suns" and "wheels" are additionally made as a
needlework.

"Canary's suns" are made as the above mentioned, being different as they
are worked as narrow bands and then applied to embroidered linens and
combined with other technique very typical of the Canary Islands: The
openwork.
However, when we speak of "Teneriffe suns or roses", we are talking of a
different way of the prior mounting threads. Here there is not a loom or
framework, the threads are weaved as a radial warp on a circular basis made
of metal, card, or similar material, with little holes in concentric
circles and then pinned to a little cylindrical pillow. Then it is made the
needle work.
It is the "easy" way to imitate the "Salamanca's sun" drawnwork.
I understand that it is a needle lace craft.
This technique was carried to South America by Spanish people, and there it
has evolved and has taken its own characteristics.
​I hope this has not become too extensive, and it could be
understandable​

​Greetings from Barcelona. Spain​


Carolina de la Guardia
http://www.carolgallego.com

2016-06-30 17:54 GMT+02:00 Devon Thein :

> What category would you ascribe if you were cataloging a piece of Tenerife
> lace or Spanish Ruedas? Under what words would you look for it? Would you
> call it "Embroidered Net"?
>
>

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Re: [lace] Category for Tenerife or Ruedas

[Adele Shaak]

I’m for “needle-made textile” or “needle-woven textile”. 

When I think of “embroidered net” I think of a pre-made net that would stand 
alone as a separate textile, with a pattern then embroidered on it. The base of 
Tenerife, if you took it off the loom without doing the needleweaving, would 
just fall apart. So the needle-weaving is the most important part of it.

Or you could go old school and call it “fancy needlework” ;-)

Adele

> What category would you ascribe if you were cataloging a piece of Tenerife
> lace or Spanish Ruedas? Under what words would you look for it? Would you
> call it "Embroidered Net"?
> 
> 
> Any ideas?
> 
> Devon
> in New Jersey

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Re: [lace] Category for Tenerife or Ruedas

[Brenda Paternoster]

It’s not embroidered net.

Wheel lace or sol lace, or the specific type such as Nanduti or Tenerife

Brenda

> On 30 Jun 2016, at 16:54, Devon Thein  wrote:
>
> What category would you ascribe if you were cataloging a piece of Tenerife
> lace or Spanish Ruedas? Under what words would you look for it? Would you
> call it "Embroidered Net"?

Brenda in Allhallows
paternos...@appleshack.com
www.brendapaternoster.co.uk

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Re: [lace] Category for Tenerife or Ruedas

[Bev Walker]

Needle-made or stitched textiles?

On Thu, Jun 30, 2016 at 8:54 AM, Devon Thein  wrote:

> What category would you ascribe if you were cataloging a piece of Tenerife
> lace or Spanish Ruedas? Under what words would you look for it? Would you
> call it "Embroidered Net"?
> ... Instead the structural integrity comes from a stitch made with a
> needle.
>
>
-- 
Bev in Shirley BC, near Sooke on beautiful Vancouver Island, west coast of
Canada

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[lace] Category for Tenerife or Ruedas

[Devon Thein]

What category would you ascribe if you were cataloging a piece of Tenerife
lace or Spanish Ruedas? Under what words would you look for it? Would you
call it "Embroidered Net"?
There is an entire realm of things that are similar to these laces called
names like Lazy Daisys. These are things that are yarn laid in a fashion on
a loom, but not woven. Instead the structural integrity comes from a stitch
made with a needle. You can see this process on something called a
Butterfly loom here on this youtube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BW1FyGWQf7Q

Unfortunately, a lot of these processes seem to relate to looms called Lazy
Daisy, Flower Looms, Butterfly Looms, Magic Looms, etc. which seem to be
trade names rather than a name for the process.

Any ideas?

Devon
in New Jersey

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