Janice
Interesting theory!
Lorelei
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Subject: [lace] Footside on left or right?
The question of why the footside of yardage lace is either on the right
(mainly English laces) or on the left (mainly European continent laces)
... answer other than the Brits do everything
The question of why the footside of yardage lace is either on the right
(mainly English laces) or on the left (mainly European continent laces) has
come up regularly over the years and no-one seems to have a definitive answer
other than the Brits do everything the other way around from their
Why do my footside stitches look neater on the right hand side than the left
hand side. I thought it was tension but no matter what I do I can’t get it
right.
Ann
UK
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Hello Nancy and everyone
If you have Practical Skills in Bobbin Lace by B. Cook, refer to item 18 in
Section 1, Starts and Edges, "Starting a straight piece of work with a
footside at the top as well as the edges..." and modify it to accommodate
the pattern's headside.
Hope this helps!
On Tue,
I vaguely remember instructions somewhere on how to start continuous lace
so the edge of the start looked like the footside. Or was it how to finish
it? Anyway, one of the ends of the length ended up looking like footside,
so it was neatly finished.
Does anyone have a reference to an
Hi Arachnids
In England we make our lace with the footside on the right and we are told
that all other laces have always been made with the footside on the left, but
the IODFA publication Point Ground, a comparative study includes the Slovenian
lace Pecna cipka and shows that it was also made
. and do not forget South Africa
Manie Kriel
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Hi Arachnids
I have been asked a question. âWhich laces have the footside on the left and
which on the right?â As far as I know only the English laces Bucks Point and
Bedfordshire have the footside on the left. Even the English Downton has it on
the right. Does anyone know of any other laces
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Hi Arachnids
I have been asked a question. b
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So many messages from Arachne seem to become truncated and appear to lose a
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Hi Alex and fellow Arachnids,
As far as footsides are concerned, they can be worked on either side. I have
always learned that traditionally English laces are worked with the footside
(straight side) on the right and continental laces with the footside on the
left.
Joepie, East Sussex, UK
I could read it completely, as always.
Antje González, in Spain.
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I have been asked a question. b
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Perhaps it has something to do with the encoding characters or the
language keyboard. I can read all the mail but some characters appear
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Carolina de la Guardia
El 23/04/2014 10:36, Alex Stillwell escribió:
Hi Arachnids
I have been asked a question. ‘Which laces have the
I think it is the same reason why the English drive on the left, while
everyone else drives on the right. But, I don't know what that reason is.
Devon
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Hi Arachnids
I have been asked a
Where did the original Bucks and Beds lacemakers learn? If it was from
Flemish fleeing the Inquisition, or Huguenots escaping French persecution,
might they change the location of the footside to differentiate English lace
from the lace they made back home? Although that doesn't play out,
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Subject: Re: [lace] Footside on left
I think it is the same reason why the English drive on the left, while
everyone else drives on the right. But, I don't know what that reason is.
Devon
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_j...@myhawkins.co.uk_ (mailto:j...@myhawkins.co.uk) writes:
England isn't the only country that drives on the left. Japan is another
place, and Malta as well as the US Virgin Islands and there are others.
Where are the footsides of the laces of these countries?
Interestingly, Lyn says
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I think it is the same reason why the English drive on the left, while
everyone else drives on the right. But, I don't
Actually the entire UK - Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland - not just
England, drives on the left. The reason goes back before the time of
automated transport to the days of horseback travel - and highwaymen and
footpads. Supposedly riding on the left allowed the right arm, the sword arm,
to
I remember having a discussion about this when I first started making lace and
someone suggested that somebody simply put the pricking on the pillow upside
down because they weren't all nicely marked as they are now?
Sue M Harvey
Norfolk UK
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I don't know whether there are other laces with the footside on the right, but
here's another possible reason -
what if they copied patterns by rubbing on the 'wrong' side? Then they'd have
to turn the rubbed pattern over to work it, which would flip the footside.
Adele
West Vancouver, BC
(west
Are you assuming a single point of introduction, during which a mistake was
made? I would assume there were many points of introduction and contact, but
one country, or possibly several, regularized to left footside while most
regularized to right footside.
Also, I would have to disagree with
Although many of the history books quote Mrs Bury Palliser in her theory
that the Huguenots and Flemish introduced lace into England, the dates
don't tie up - see the primary evidence in books like the late Dr John
Yallop's History of the Honiton Lace Industry, and there is also
evidence to
I am not sure that I buy the heel ball theory, because wouldn't that
result in the footside switching every single time the pattern was copied? In
that case, wouldn't every country make lace with footsides on the right and
left interchangeably? I think the fact that they were copying with
I was thinking that the *first* pattern somebody had was copied via rubbing
from someone else's pattern, which can be done in a comparatively short time.
Once the lacemaker is at home with their rubbed pattern, they can make
subsequent patterns by the more accurate but more time-consuming
Hi Arachnids
Thank you for your interesting answers regarding footside but they are aimed
at possible reasons for the right as opposed to left. I will rephrase my
original question. Has lace ever been made with the footside on the right in
any countries apart from England?
Happy lacemaking
Alex
How about Ipswich lace in the US? Or does that not count since it probably
came over from England?
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England, but maybe not the original teacher?
-Karen
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How about Ipswich lace in the US? Or does that not count since it probably
came over from England?
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I always understood that it was thought the difference came about due to the
English worker watching someone work while they, - the watcher, - was
standing in front of the pillow - so of course, the footside would look like
it was on the opposite side to what it really was.
Think about when we are
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Subject: Re: [lace] Footside on left
I think it is the same reason why the English drive on the left, while
everyone else drives
Alice wrote on 9 January
There can be a problem with some laces that use gimp.
Someone once reported that a pattern was almost
impossible to do, as printed in a book. The answer
was that it was printed upside down. When turned
around, the gimp movements were possible.
As Steph noted on 11
From: Leonard Bazar [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I generally work with the footside on the right,
certainly for Bucks point, but with it on the left for
early forays into Flandern and point de Paris. I
think there can be a practical difference in working
the different ways, though I'm not sure whether
On Mon, 9 Jan 2006 18:44:06 -0800 (PST), Alice wrote:
There can be a problem with some laces that use gimp.
Someone once reported that a pattern was almost
impossible to do, as printed in a book. The answer
was that it was printed upside down. When turned
around, the gimp movements were
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 31/12/2005 07:04:09 PM:
Several of the patterns make
me wonder whether I should try, again, working with the headside on the
right -- something I gave up long ago -- because they're so pretty...
Tamara P Duvallhttp://t-n-lace.net/
There are many patterns that can be worked either way.
Torchon doesn't matter. It comes out the same. It
has a 45 degree grid so can reverse and look the same,
however it's worked.
There can be a problem with some laces that use gimp.
Someone once reported that a pattern was almost
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