Re: [Lazarus] Installed lazarus-ide in Ubuntu18, cannot install package

2018-10-24 Thread Juha Manninen via Lazarus
On Wed, Oct 24, 2018 at 10:16 PM Brian via Lazarus wrote: > ... and errors from deep inside code libraries tend to throw me, > especially when it's object oriented code (yes, I'm that old). ValidUTF8String and Utf8EscapeControlChars are global functions. Nothing object oriented there. :)

Re: [Lazarus] Installed lazarus-ide in Ubuntu18, cannot install package

2018-10-24 Thread Juha Manninen via Lazarus
On Wed, Oct 24, 2018 at 10:16 PM Brian via Lazarus wrote: > Maybe not, but my point is that I was running the 1.8.4 .DEBs from > SourceForge with no problems. Yes but you are confusing unrelated things now. You were running Lazarus 1.8.4 with no problems because it had only deprecated

Re: [Lazarus] Installed lazarus-ide in Ubuntu18, cannot install package

2018-10-24 Thread Sven Barth via Lazarus
Am 24.10.2018 um 22:23 schrieb Luca Olivetti via Lazarus: El 24/10/18 a les 22:11, Sven Barth via Lazarus ha escrit: Am 24.10.2018 um 21:35 schrieb Luca Olivetti via Lazarus: El 24/10/18 a les 13:10, Juha Manninen via Lazarus ha escrit: Why old Lazarus 1.8.4? Why don't you use the new 2.0

Re: [Lazarus] Installed lazarus-ide in Ubuntu18, cannot install package

2018-10-24 Thread Luca Olivetti via Lazarus
El 24/10/18 a les 22:11, Sven Barth via Lazarus ha escrit: Am 24.10.2018 um 21:35 schrieb Luca Olivetti via Lazarus: El 24/10/18 a les 13:10, Juha Manninen via Lazarus ha escrit: Why old Lazarus 1.8.4? Why don't you use the new 2.0 branch? I still have to keep 1.6.4 around due to a bug

Re: [Lazarus] Installed lazarus-ide in Ubuntu18, cannot install package

2018-10-24 Thread Sven Barth via Lazarus
Am 24.10.2018 um 21:35 schrieb Luca Olivetti via Lazarus: El 24/10/18 a les 13:10, Juha Manninen via Lazarus ha escrit: Why old Lazarus 1.8.4? Why don't you use the new 2.0 branch? I still have to keep 1.6.4 around due to a bug with bitpacked records in fpc 3. I use 1.8.4 for projects I

Re: [Lazarus] Installed lazarus-ide in Ubuntu18, cannot install package

2018-10-24 Thread Luca Olivetti via Lazarus
El 24/10/18 a les 13:10, Juha Manninen via Lazarus ha escrit: Why old Lazarus 1.8.4? Why don't you use the new 2.0 branch? I still have to keep 1.6.4 around due to a bug with bitpacked records in fpc 3. I use 1.8.4 for projects I can compile with fpc 3 (even if I provided some bug reports

[Lazarus] Installed lazarus-ide in Ubuntu18, cannot install package

2018-10-24 Thread Brian via Lazarus
On 10/24/2018 11:54 AM, Juha Manninen via Lazarus wrote: > On Wed, Oct 24, 2018 at 3:45 PM Brian via Lazarus > wrote: >> Well, here's an example for you of why people may refuse to use SVN. >> >> I downloaded the sources via svn and built Lazarus, no problem in that >> step. >> >> Then I ran V2.0

Re: [Lazarus] Installed lazarus-ide in Ubuntu18, cannot install package

2018-10-24 Thread Juha Manninen via Lazarus
On Wed, Oct 24, 2018 at 8:52 PM Bo Berglund via Lazarus wrote: > I have always been using the tags list: > https://svn.freepascal.org/svn/lazarus/tags/ > and here are only immutable snapsots where I select the latest not set as RCx. > Is that a bad practice? It is not bad but I think using the

Re: [Lazarus] Installed lazarus-ide in Ubuntu18, cannot install package

2018-10-24 Thread Bo Berglund via Lazarus
On Wed, 24 Oct 2018 13:05:05 +0200, Bo Berglund via Lazarus wrote: >"The file 'dl-error-skeleton.c' was not found. >Do you want to locate it yourself?" > >So maybe a file needed by the Indy10 Pop3 component is not part of the >package > Now I have nailed the problem with the

Re: [Lazarus] Installed lazarus-ide in Ubuntu18, cannot install package

2018-10-24 Thread Bo Berglund via Lazarus
On Wed, 24 Oct 2018 18:58:44 +0300, Juha Manninen via Lazarus wrote: >On Wed, Oct 24, 2018 at 4:22 PM Bo Berglund via Lazarus > wrote: >> >Why old Lazarus 1.8.4? Why don't you use the new 2.0 branch? >> Because it was the latest release tag I found... > >You found the release tag in fixes_1_8

Re: [Lazarus] Installed lazarus-ide in Ubuntu18, cannot install package

2018-10-24 Thread Juha Manninen via Lazarus
On Wed, Oct 24, 2018 at 4:22 PM Bo Berglund via Lazarus wrote: > >Why old Lazarus 1.8.4? Why don't you use the new 2.0 branch? > Because it was the latest release tag I found... You found the release tag in fixes_1_8 branch? Ok, 2.0 has not been released yet but it will be soon(?). I dare to say

Re: [Lazarus] Installed lazarus-ide in Ubuntu18, cannot install package

2018-10-24 Thread Juha Manninen via Lazarus
On Wed, Oct 24, 2018 at 3:21 PM Brian via Lazarus wrote: > I can't speak for why other people won't do it, but before I retired, > I worked for a division of an extremely large company with a 'managed > PC' environment, where we were strictly forbidden to install anything > which could be

Re: [Lazarus] Installed lazarus-ide in Ubuntu18, cannot install package

2018-10-24 Thread Bo Berglund via Lazarus
On Wed, 24 Oct 2018 14:10:33 +0300, Juha Manninen via Lazarus wrote: >Why old Lazarus 1.8.4? Why don't you use the new 2.0 branch? Because it was the latest release tag I found... -- Bo Berglund Developer in Sweden -- ___ Lazarus mailing list

Re: [Lazarus] Installed lazarus-ide in Ubuntu18, cannot install package

2018-10-24 Thread Brian via Lazarus
On 10/24/2018 05:19 AM, Juha Manninen via Lazarus wrote: > Building Lazarus from sources using "svn co" and "make" is so easy > that I wonder why people refuse to do it. > People want to try anything except for this most obvious and easiest > way, including fpcupdeluxe which is an overkill for

Re: [Lazarus] Installed lazarus-ide in Ubuntu18, cannot install package

2018-10-24 Thread Juha Manninen via Lazarus
On Wed, Oct 24, 2018 at 1:19 PM Bo Berglund via Lazarus wrote: > No, I decided to go the route of checking out the release sources and > build from them. Needed the seed compiler 3.0.0 but advice here led me > to where that could be fetched (important: It must be the 64 bit seed > compiler!).

Re: [Lazarus] Use /dev/null for stdout

2018-10-24 Thread Martin Frb via Lazarus
On 23/10/2018 23:42, Martin Grajcar via Lazarus wrote: My process may get started with or without console. In the latter case, any write leads to "Disk full" on MacOS. As I can't eliminate all writes, I'd need to open both stdout and stderr as /dev/null. Have a look at logger frameworks.

Re: [Lazarus] Installed lazarus-ide in Ubuntu18, cannot install package

2018-10-24 Thread Bo Berglund via Lazarus
On Wed, 24 Oct 2018 12:19:44 +0200, Bo Berglund via Lazarus wrote: >But I have another issue: >My ported application uses Indy10 with the SMTP component and it must >use SSL. On Windows I have put two SSL dll:s (libeay32.dll and >ssleay32.dll) in the executable dir in order to get that going,

Re: [Lazarus] Installed lazarus-ide in Ubuntu18, cannot install package

2018-10-24 Thread Bo Berglund via Lazarus
On Wed, 24 Oct 2018 02:38:14 +0300, Juha Manninen via Lazarus wrote: >As an extra bonus you will get latest bug fixes in future by running "svn up". >My prediction is that you will ignore this advice and start to bang >your head with .deb packages like many others do. The forum is full of

Re: [Lazarus] Installed lazarus-ide in Ubuntu18, cannot install package

2018-10-24 Thread Juha Manninen via Lazarus
On Wed, Oct 24, 2018 at 11:21 AM Brian via Lazarus wrote: > FWIW, all that I've done (using Ubuntu 18.04, but also with previous > versions of Ubuntu and Debian) is to lock all the FPC and Lazarus > packages against upgrade from the repositories. When a new version > comes out, I just download

Re: [Lazarus] Installed lazarus-ide in Ubuntu18, cannot install package

2018-10-24 Thread Brian via Lazarus
On 10/24/2018 03:32 AM, Juha Manninen via Lazarus wrote: > On Wed, Oct 24, 2018 at 8:40 AM Brian via Lazarus > wrote: >> Just out of curiosity, might I ask how you feel about running the >> .DEBs downloaded from SourceForge? > > Apparently you have not read the forum threads about the issues

Re: [Lazarus] Installed lazarus-ide in Ubuntu18, cannot install package

2018-10-24 Thread Juha Manninen via Lazarus
On Wed, Oct 24, 2018 at 8:40 AM Brian via Lazarus wrote: > Just out of curiosity, might I ask how you feel about running the > .DEBs downloaded from SourceForge? Apparently you have not read the forum threads about the issues caused by .DEBs. :) There are literally hundreds of them. Here is one:

Re: [Lazarus] Installed lazarus-ide in Ubuntu18, cannot install package

2018-10-24 Thread Juha Manninen via Lazarus
On Wed, Oct 24, 2018 at 4:57 AM Teresa Williams via Lazarus wrote: > I have done this several times on opensuse Leap 14 and 15. Each time I have > had fpc installed first: is that what you meant? Or does the svn repository > include fpc now? Yes, FPC must be installed first. Version 3.02 is