David Douthitt wrote:
[snip]
You might say I enjoy FORTH - and you'd be understating things :)
What does a hello world in FORTH look like?
Maybe could you also post an example that asks
your full name then echos the first name and
last name on different lines?
Just curious.
Matt
btw,
On 2/8/02 at 12:54 AM, Matt Schalit [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What does a hello world in FORTH look like?
: HELLO_WORLD . Hello, World! ;
HELLO_WORLD
Maybe could you also post an example that asks
your full name then echos the first name and
last name on different lines?
Text processing
At 2002-02-08 00:43 -0600, David Douthitt wrote:
So how important is setting the time/date with date? Is rdate
(or ntpclient) enough?
David,
I think it's important to have the correct date. My ISP NOC wont accept
abuse reports without valid time stamps in syslog.
I use rdate on my
At 2002-02-08 08:55 +0100, Stefaan Van Dooren wrote:
A message I just received from Apacer
quote
Dear Stefaan,
More information on the WP function. Apacer product is programmable
for WP. The WP pin is low active, so WP wll be activated whenever the
pin is asserted low. The system board,
Thanks for getting a definitive answer. Is Apacer willing to supply you
with a list of motherboards that support ADM WP# pin 30? I suspect they
wont be able to locate any. This is a good point to use when asking them
to
implement the control logic in the ADM firmware.
Um...you won't find any
Can someone expound as to why TCL would be a bad choice. I thought there
was a time when it was considered the standard for what you are wanting to
do yet there has been no mention of it in this thread.
Regards,
Eric
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At 2002-02-08 06:59 -0800, Kenneth Hadley wrote:
http://www.virusbtn.com/vb2000/Programme/papers/kaminski.pdf
From what I understand it infects ELF headers
Kenneth,
That's what I'm able to find out also. Here is a quote from the Virus
Bulletin Conference, Sep. 2000 p. 8-9
On Friday 08 February 2002 08:39, Charles Steinkuehler wrote:
Um...you won't find any standard motherboards that support the usage
of pin 30 for write-protect, and even if you could, it would probably
be controlled by software, not a switch, which kind of defeats the
whole purpose. That's
I have been informed that Panda Antyvirus Platinum on Windows XP reports
that the file /usr/bin/tr contained as part of ipsec.lrp (apparently version
1.5 or earlier, since there is no tr command included in my latest ipsec
1.91 package) is infected by the Linux/Obsidian.E virus.
I'm currently
http://www.virusbtn.com/vb2000/Programme/papers/kaminski.pdf
From what I understand it infects ELF headers
Though I couldn't find any info on this virus from Sophos or Trend
Micro...which struck me as strange since both have Linux/Unix based
Antivirus software and are big name companies.
At 2002-02-08 09:29 -0600, guitarlynn wrote:
As noted in the email and to a far lesser degree on the White
paper, pin #30 _can_ be used with a special MB to control the WP, in
particular with _partial_ software_named files/dirs to WP. The WP
used with the pins #1-2 does not require the special MB
On Friday 08 February 2002 10:52, Mike Noyes wrote:
Lynn,
If I understand you correctly, you believe Apacer was telling Stefaan
that Host Selectable (Close 2,3) mode wasn't supported, not that
Connect to Ground (Close 1,2) didn't work. Since there is no WP
jumper on the ADM, we need to
Surely, all of you experienced LRP'ers have tackled this one!
OK, I build a new application on a slink development box. Once I do
`make install', how do I know an exhaustive list of *ALL* files to turn
into the LRP file?
What do you think?
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On Fri, 8 Feb 2002, Charles Steinkuehler wrote:
Surely, all of you experienced LRP'ers have tackled this one!
OK, I build a new application on a slink development box. Once I do
`make install', how do I know an exhaustive list of *ALL* files to turn
into the LRP file?
There's
Charles Steinkuehler wrote:
I have been informed that Panda Antyvirus Platinum on Windows XP reports
that the file /usr/bin/tr contained as part of ipsec.lrp (apparently version
1.5 or earlier, since there is no tr command included in my latest ipsec
1.91 package) is infected by the
I don't like to forward links, but this is a nifty idea.
http://www.samag.com/documents/s=1824/sam0201d/0201d.htm
Basically, it's possible to alter the shutdown process so that the
NICs remain active, the kernel remains loaded, and it continues to pass
traffic with no userspace processes.
At 2002-02-08 11:51 -0600, guitarlynn wrote:
On Friday 08 February 2002 10:52, Mike Noyes wrote:
If I understand you correctly, you believe Apacer was telling
Stefaan that Host Selectable (Close 2,3) mode wasn't supported, not
that Connect to Ground (Close 1,2) didn't work. Since there is
I figured out some of the confusion I was seeing:
snip
6) There is a NTP client - ntpclient appropriately - which
could replace rdate, if it is small enough...
On my system, ntpclient is 12320 bytes compiled under uClibc (0.9.9+),
6474 bytes zipped at maximum compression.
David Douthitt
Jack Coates wrote:
Hm, so the backup process checks the list files of all other .lrps?
Yup. That's how it works. Include everything listed in the .list
while excluding everything listed in every other .list. Creative
things like this keep LEAF interesting. I'm pretty certain that's
how
On Fri, 8 Feb 2002, Matt Schalit wrote:
Jack Coates wrote:
Hm, so the backup process checks the list files of all other .lrps?
Yup. That's how it works. Include everything listed in the .list
while excluding everything listed in every other .list. Creative
things like this keep LEAF
guitarlynn wrote:
On Friday 08 February 2002 08:39, Charles Steinkuehler wrote:
Um...you won't find any standard motherboards that support the usage
of pin 30 for write-protect, and even if you could, it would probably
be controlled by software, not a switch, which kind of defeats the
On Friday 08 February 2002 13:10, Mike Noyes wrote:
Lynn,
Do you already have one of the ATA-Disk Modules? If so, where did
you get it, and what did you pay for it?
No, Mike, I don't have one your not grasping the scope I see
here. I just tried it, but it doesn't work as expected ...
Mike Noyes wrote:
At 2002-02-08 12:57 -0600, guitarlynn wrote:
On Friday 08 February 2002 13:00, Mike Noyes wrote:
Lynn,
You're not wrong. I just got off the phone with one of the tech
support guys at SST. He sent me the schematic for the ADM device.
They placed a resister R-8 on
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Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2002 19:32:40 -0600
From: Michael D. Schleif [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Organization: mds resource
To: LEAF-dev [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Leaf-devel] Preferred package/filesystem location ???
Is there some kind of standard whereby, when building
And remember, mds, there's:
make -n install
to output the commands but not execute them.
Matt
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Matt Schalit wrote:
And remember, mds, there's:
make -n install
to output the commands but not execute them.
Cool! I didn't know that one . . .
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Our capacity for understanding is
I'm currently trying to verify this, and track down exactly what the
Obsidian virus is supposed to do. If anyone has any information on this
virus, or can help verify the file is/is not infected, I would greatly
appreciate it.
I can't test the file because I can't find it.
Why don't
Mike Noyes got the sst guys to send a schematic and some details about their
ATA-Disk module (ADM) and it's write-protect features:
Fwd: FW: LD017 SADM sch
From: Tanvir Sadique [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: FW: LD017 SADM sch
Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2002 10:44:02 -0800
On Fri, Feb 08, 2002 at 02:57:44PM -0800, Mike Sensney wrote:
At 09:29 AM 2/8/2002 -0600, guitarlynn wrote:
...
In other words, how many folks have said: Can I run LEAF on a
harddrive (IDE). We say, you can, but it is a security risk compared
to a floppy. What would it mean to be able to
What if during the initial boot process you mount your hard disk as a
read-only device then delete the mount command? Would this be sufficient
protection for a HD? (i.e. Is there any other program that could be used
to remount the HD?)
Saving config changes could be handled by mounting a
Matt Schalit wrote:
How about this one, Mike? It has write protect:
http://www.m-sys.com/files/dataSheets/ffd/FFD_IDE_250_Spec.pdf
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Matt Schalit wrote:
How about this one, Mike? It has write protect:
And then there's Mite-Pc:
http://www.iptel-now.de/HOWTO/MITE-PC/mite-pc.html
Pretty neat.
Matt
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Matt Schalit wrote:
How about this one, Mike? It has write protect:
Some older mainboards had a certain BIOS Security menu
with a Write Protect All Sectors option to write protect
the whole ide drive. For example, the AOpen DX6G.
In addition to that, a Fujitsu IDE drive and a Micropolis
Charles Steinkuehler wrote:
Mike Noyes got the sst guys to send a schematic and some details about their
ATA-Disk module (ADM) and it's write-protect features:
Here is the 40pin 5V ADM schematic. This is using the LD017
controller. In the schematic R8 is used as an option for WP.
I
Sorry to resend this. I sent it before I was done
accidentally
Charles Steinkuehler wrote:
Mike Noyes got the sst guys to send a schematic and some details about their
ATA-Disk module (ADM) and it's write-protect features:
Charles Steinkuehler wrote:
I'm currently trying to verify this, and track down exactly what the
Obsidian virus is supposed to do. If anyone has any information on this
virus, or can help verify the file is/is not infected, I would greatly
appreciate it.
Ok I scanned it with
On Friday 08 February 2002 22:00, Matt Schalit wrote:
ATA-Disk module (ADM) and it's write-protect features:
Here is the 40pin 5V ADM schematic. This is using the LD017
controller. In the schematic R8 is used as an option for WP.
I think this is the crux. It's being used. It's being
guitarlynn wrote:
On Friday 08 February 2002 22:00, Matt Schalit wrote:
ATA-Disk module (ADM) and it's write-protect features:
Here is the 40pin 5V ADM schematic. This is using the LD017
controller. In the schematic R8 is used as an option for WP.
I think this is the crux.
At 2002-02-08 20:14 -0800, Matt Schalit wrote:
On the other hand, the tech told Mike the following:
I just got off the phone with one of the tech support
guys at SST. He sent me the schematic for the ADM device. They
placed a resister R-8 on the ADM that can be shunted to ground to
Mike Noyes wrote:
Matt,
You're assuming that I understood what the SST engineer was telling me, and
that I was able to express it correctly in my post. Neither of these things
is guaranteed, as I know next to nothing about electrical engineering.
No problemo. We'll get it figured out soon
On 2/8/02 at 1:08 PM, Michael D. Schleif [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hence, my interest in filesystem and file location standards . . .
This is exactly the reason for the restrictive djbtools license - he
wants his code to be in EXACTLY the SAME place in EVERY SYSTEM, and
wants his code to work
On 2/8/02 at 5:23 AM, Mike Noyes [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
At 2002-02-08 00:43 -0600, David Douthitt wrote:
So how important is setting the time/date with date? Is rdate
(or ntpclient) enough?
I think it's important to have the correct date. My ISP
NOC wont accept abuse reports
OK, a little back-ground on me, so maybe this makes a little more
sense to follow. I have had 3 years of electronics schooling, a
little over 2 years of Electrical engineering, and been a licensed
electrician for around 4 years after a 5 year apprenticeship with
specialties in digital control
David Douthitt wrote:
On 2/8/02 at 1:08 PM, Michael D. Schleif [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hence, my interest in filesystem and file location standards . . .
This is exactly the reason for the restrictive djbtools license - he
wants his code to be in EXACTLY the SAME place in EVERY
David Douthitt wrote:
On 2/8/02 at 5:23 AM, Mike Noyes [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
At 2002-02-08 00:43 -0600, David Douthitt wrote:
So how important is setting the time/date with date? Is rdate
(or ntpclient) enough?
I think it's important to have the correct date. My ISP
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