Re: [leaf-devel] Bering Crew looks for expansion

2003-12-22 Thread Erich Titl
Eric I read some of the other posts, these are interesting times for the LEAF community. Having a structured approach for new Bering (glibc or uClibc) releases sounds very appealing. It will be interesting to see how such a project will evolve from a management position. At 23:47 19.12.2003

Re: [leaf-devel] Bering Crew looks for expansion

2003-12-19 Thread Etienne Charlier
PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2003 11:24 AM Subject: Re: [leaf-devel] Bering Crew looks for expansion Eric At 23:31 17.12.2003 +0100, Eric Wolzak wrote: Hello everybody, As you might know , Jacques has stopped, and gave the rudder to me. My plans with Bering are. 1. update kernel

Re: [leaf-devel] Bering Crew looks for expansion

2003-12-19 Thread Mike Noyes
On Fri, 2003-12-19 at 11:42, Etienne Charlier wrote: Now a survey ??? What would be the advantage and drawbacks of merging the Bering Bering-uclibc distributions ? What would be the advantage and drawbacks of keeping the Bering Bering-uclibc distributions separate ? IMHO, I think

Re: [leaf-devel] Bering Crew looks for expansion

2003-12-19 Thread Martin Hejl
Hi Etienne I don't consider myself a guru, but being a member of the Bering uClibc team, I feel like I can voice my opinion nevertheless. Now a survey ??? What would be the advantage and drawbacks of merging the Bering Bering-uclibc distributions ? Advantages would obviously be

Re: [leaf-devel] Bering Crew looks for expansion

2003-12-19 Thread Martin Hejl
Hi Mike, Now a survey ??? What would be the advantage and drawbacks of merging the Bering Bering-uclibc distributions ? What would be the advantage and drawbacks of keeping the Bering Bering-uclibc distributions separate ? IMHO, I think that we don't need 2 separate variantes of bering.

Re: [leaf-devel] Bering Crew looks for expansion

2003-12-19 Thread Charles Steinkuehler
Martin Hejl wrote: What would be the advantage and drawbacks of keeping the Bering Bering-uclibc distributions separate ? The obvious, I guess - never touch a running system. People who have a working Bering system would not have to worry about some new version. I can surely understand that

Re: [leaf-devel] Bering Crew looks for expansion

2003-12-19 Thread Martin Hejl
Hi Charles, What about the possability of moving forward with a mixed approach for the next major version? The core system (and most packages) could be compiled against uClibc, while packages that require it are compiled against a newer glibc that would optionally be installed by those with

Re: [leaf-devel] Bering Crew looks for expansion

2003-12-19 Thread Mike Noyes
On Fri, 2003-12-19 at 13:20, Martin Hejl wrote: The main difference I see between the Bering branches is the target audience. The uClibc team is targeting enterprise use, while the Bering team is targeting SOHO/end users. I'm curious - what makes you think so? My day work is targeting

Re: [leaf-devel] Bering Crew looks for expansion

2003-12-19 Thread Martin Hejl
Hi Mike, I'm curious - what makes you think so? My day work is targeting enterprise use (so, I think I know what they'd ask for, but then, different customers ask for different things, so one can't be sure), and with Bering uClibc, I don't see any of the buzz-words that would make it in the

Re: [leaf-devel] Bering Crew looks for expansion

2003-12-19 Thread Eric Wolzak
Hello All, After my first mail, there were a few support offerings, that I am very gratefull too. in two of them the question came why not combine efforts. Yesterday, I discussed this topic with Mike also ( chat). I told him, i will think a few days about the future of bering. interesting is

Re: [leaf-devel] Bering Crew looks for expansion

2003-12-19 Thread Martin Hejl
Hi Eric, The conclusions I came up to so far are. 1. getting the route towards the bering-uclibc team, as I think that is where the future lies. 2. Kernel development can be done together. (2.4.23 , and later 2.6.0) 3. The solution I think Charles also suggested. using uclibc for the core. For

Re: [leaf-devel] Bering Crew looks for expansion

2003-12-19 Thread Larry Platzek
On Wed, 17 Dec 2003, Eric Wolzak wrote: Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2003 23:31:40 +0100 From: Eric Wolzak [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [leaf-devel] Bering Crew looks for expansion Hello everybody, As you might know , Jacques has stopped, and gave the rudder

Re: [leaf-devel] Bering Crew looks for expansion

2003-12-18 Thread Erich Titl
Eric At 23:31 17.12.2003 +0100, Eric Wolzak wrote: Hello everybody, As you might know , Jacques has stopped, and gave the rudder to me. My plans with Bering are. 1. update kernel to 2.4.23. 2. update packages 3 revise the documentation and make some improvements. 4 create a basic webinterface.