Steve,
And UTC has failed miserably. POSIX says UTC has no leaps.
Google says UTC has occasional days with stretches of seconds which
are of varying lengths. De facto, there is no single UTC time scale.
Right! And many more examples of UTC fails -- the RTC of any unix computer. Any
windows
Overall he seems to make a good philosophical argument why solar time is
good for humans. But his conclusion seems confused.
... let the airlines and the Internet companies use TAI.
Ah, the airlines already use GPS (TAI-like) for navigation, and local
civil time for scheduling, while the
You are correct to not call biological cycles clocks. Doing so is one
of my pet peeves, and I've recently published an article castigating the
psychophysics folks for doing so. The reference to that is:
Birth, Kevin. 2014. Non-clocklike Features of Psychological Timing and
Alternatives to the
My post was not to suggest that circadian cycles will be affected by leap
seconds or their absence as much as to point out that Mr. Folkman's
argument is a better argument against mean time than an argument in favor
of keeping the leap second.
Getting rid of the leap second will probably have no
On 12 March 2015 at 05:21, Steve Allen s...@ucolick.org wrote:
On Wed 2015-03-11T11:04:57 -0700, Tom Van Baak hath writ:
The entire purpose of UTC is to provide a single timescale for all
human-related activity.
And UTC has failed miserably. POSIX says UTC has no leaps.
Google says UTC has
Steve,
POSIX does not say that UTC has no leaps, it says that POSIX has no UTC
(despite the superficial similarity).
Joe Gwinn
From: Steve Allen s...@ucolick.org
To: Leap Second Discussion List leapsecs@leapsecond.com
Date: 03/12/2015 01:22 AM
Subject:[LEAPSECS] UTC fails
Brooks Harris wrote:
In other words, let them simply stop adjusting for for leap seconds.
Let the atomic clocks become progressively more wrong.
Whoa! Hold the phone! What do you mean? Adjust TAI's frequency to
match Earth?!?
No, he's clearly proposing to leave TAI exactly as it is, and just to
On 2015-03-12 11:57 AM, Stephen Colebourne wrote:
On 12 March 2015 at 05:21, Steve Allen s...@ucolick.org wrote:
On Wed 2015-03-11T11:04:57 -0700, Tom Van Baak hath writ:
The entire purpose of UTC is to provide a single timescale for all
human-related activity.
And UTC has failed miserably.
Hi Tom,
On 2015-03-12 02:57 AM, Tom Van Baak wrote:
Brooks,
A couple more comments on your questions.
Many timekeeping systems seem to be designed for only indicating now
counting forward, including NTP, POSIX, and PTP, taking short-cuts to
avoid supplying full Leap Second and local-time
On Mar 13, 2015, at 12:57 AM, Stephen Colebourne scolebou...@joda.org wrote:
On 12 March 2015 at 05:21, Steve Allen s...@ucolick.org wrote:
On Wed 2015-03-11T11:04:57 -0700, Tom Van Baak hath writ:
The entire purpose of UTC is to provide a single timescale for all
human-related activity.
On Mar 13, 2015, at 8:48 AM, Rob Seaman sea...@noao.edu wrote:
On Mar 12, 2015, at 1:04 PM, Warner Losh i...@bsdimp.com wrote:
So why is keeping us inline with solar days so desirable? The rate of
change is so slow and the number of people already out of sync with
solar time on the
On Mar 12, 2015, at 3:57 PM, Tom Van Baak t...@leapsecond.com wrote:
Brooks,
A couple more comments on your questions.
Many timekeeping systems seem to be designed for only indicating now
counting forward, including NTP, POSIX, and PTP, taking short-cuts to
avoid supplying full Leap
On Mar 12, 2015, at 1:04 PM, Warner Losh i...@bsdimp.com wrote:
So why is keeping us inline with solar days so desirable? The rate of
change is so slow and the number of people already out of sync with
solar time on the second level is so large it seems like a lot of hassle
for not much
Brooks wrote:
Many timekeeping systems seem to be designed for only indicating now
counting forward, including NTP, POSIX, and PTP, taking short-cuts to
avoid supplying full Leap Second and local-time metadata.
Warner wrote:
A clock doesn’t need to know its past. But a time scale is more than
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