Re: [LEAPSECS] leap second festivities?

2015-07-02 Thread Martin Burnicki
Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: In message 5593eb55.6090...@meinberg.de, Martin Burnicki writes: The maximum offset with the linear smear was almost three times larger than with the cosine smear. I think there is a different reason why they switched to the linear smear. I fear that test

Re: [LEAPSECS] leap second festivities?

2015-07-01 Thread Richard Langley
of Richard Langley l...@unb.ca Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 5:12 PM To: Leap Second Discussion List Subject: Re: [LEAPSECS] leap second festivities? ;-) The picture of me on the front of our papers today shows me pretending to use one of my sextants. Readers (viewers?) might not notice

Re: [LEAPSECS] leap second festivities?

2015-07-01 Thread Martin Burnicki
m...@lumieresimaginaire.com wrote: After waking this morning and reviewing the data I discovered that the Azure VMs did in fact leap. The data below was taken from a system that was set up on purpose to NOT leap. So I had no issues with the NTP server/clients as far a time goes. As indicated

Re: [LEAPSECS] leap second festivities?

2015-07-01 Thread Martin Burnicki
Miroslav Lichvar wrote: On Tue, Jun 30, 2015 at 09:42:50PM +0100, Rob Seaman wrote: Any thoughts on watching Google’s (or anybody else’s) smear in action? Kind of like watching paint dry, but still… It seems the Google leap smear has finished. Here is a plot of offsets of some Google

Re: [LEAPSECS] leap second festivities?

2015-07-01 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message 20150701104812.GE16965@localhost, Miroslav Lichvar writes: On Tue, Jun 30, 2015 at 09:42:50PM +0100, Rob Seaman wrote: Any thoughts on watching Google’s (or anybody else’s) smear in action? Kind of like watching paint dry, but still… It seems the Google leap smear has

Re: [LEAPSECS] leap second festivities?

2015-07-01 Thread Miroslav Lichvar
On Tue, Jun 30, 2015 at 09:42:50PM +0100, Rob Seaman wrote: Any thoughts on watching Google’s (or anybody else’s) smear in action? Kind of like watching paint dry, but still… It seems the Google leap smear has finished. Here is a plot of offsets of some Google servers I included in my leap

Re: [LEAPSECS] leap second festivities?

2015-07-01 Thread David Malone
I've stuck a bunch of measurements at: http://www.maths.tcd.ie/~dwmalone/time/leap2015/ Unfortunately, some of the radio measurements were a bit noisy. Probably the most interesting measurements are the measurements of ntp leap bits (the curve is quite sharp this time, which seems good)

Re: [LEAPSECS] leap second festivities?

2015-06-30 Thread Mark Calabretta
Hi Tom, Your nixie clock got to 23:59:60 and then started counting backwards! It still is, and it counts backwards through 60 in the seconds field, skipping 01 - currently at 2015.06.30 23:49:60. See the video clip I sent you last time. Maybe it's a southern hemisphere thing. Regards, Mark

Re: [LEAPSECS] leap second festivities?

2015-06-30 Thread Rob Seaman
By Sunday morning I meant midnight UTC Saturday. More generally it isn’t surprising that “weekdays” will mean different things in different cultures, so the question is when during a week is globally least intrusive to introduce an intercalary correction of any sort? Failing that, when should

Re: [LEAPSECS] leap second festivities?

2015-06-30 Thread Warner Losh
On Jun 30, 2015, at 3:44 PM, Rob Seaman sea...@noao.edu wrote: Hi Warner, I’m getting hate mail from a former job. Seems like 7 years ago I put some stupid code into the tree. It was there for only a year or two, but today it took out a few really old systems that were still running

Re: [LEAPSECS] leap second festivities?

2015-06-30 Thread Sanjeev Gupta
On Wed, Jul 1, 2015 at 3:51 AM, Rob Seaman sea...@noao.edu wrote: Is it too late to get an option E added of simply scheduling “summer leap seconds on the last Sunday morning in June? Depending on when on Sunday you do this, it may still after the Sydney Stock Exchange starts trading on

Re: [LEAPSECS] leap second festivities?

2015-06-30 Thread mike
Quick update: The new ntpd smear worked a treat. My FreeBSD, Linux, Windows 7 systems all did the right thing. Two MS Azure Linux VMs didn't. 1 Jul 00:23:32 ntpdate[13601]: step time server 138.91.244.103 offset -1.010117 sec mike@bb2:~/src/python$ ntpdate -d 191.238.98.169|grep step host

[LEAPSECS] leap second festivities?

2015-06-30 Thread Rob Seaman
What are people’s plans for the day? Aside from reading the usual mishmash of bad (and some good) news articles, I’m planning to make a shaker of Margaritas in my rocket ship (http://bit.ly/1HvwlHn http://bit.ly/1HvwlHn) and watch / listen to the music of the time signals with my perplexed but

Re: [LEAPSECS] leap second festivities?

2015-06-30 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message 37d91ca5-9bb1-45b5-aecf-5bfc08f28...@noao.edu, Rob Seaman writes: What are people's plans for the day? I'm setting up as much of my usual data collection as I can get to work, in order to have and provide test-data for tests of leap-second handling. It doesn't look like I'll

Re: [LEAPSECS] leap second festivities?

2015-06-30 Thread Richard B. Langley
Was on the front page of two of the New Brunswick dailies this morning, extolling the pros and cons and whyfors of leap seconds. Single malt for me and I'll record CHU but out of the earshot of my wife. She already knows I'm a time nut. ;-) -- Richard On Tuesday, June 30, 2015, 181, at 10:46

Re: [LEAPSECS] leap second festivities?

2015-06-30 Thread Miroslav Lichvar
On Tue, Jun 30, 2015 at 06:46:46AM -0700, Rob Seaman wrote: What are people’s plans for the day? I'm not sure if I have a clock that will show the leap second (I have some cheap DCF77 clocks, but who knows how they handle it), so I wrote a program that can reconstruct UTC from system time

Re: [LEAPSECS] leap second festivities?

2015-06-30 Thread Richard B. Langley
From: WE SHOULD DROP THE LEAP SECOND BEFORE IT CAUSES REAL DAMAGE http://www.wired.com/2015/06/just-drop-leap-second-unnecessary/ Matsakis advocates the abolition of the leap second, pointing out that we already spend so much our time out of sync with the earth’s rotation. “This is what

Re: [LEAPSECS] leap second festivities?

2015-06-30 Thread Tom Van Baak
What are people’s plans for the day? Some ideas: http://leapsecond.com/notes/leap-watch.htm For the previous leap second in June 2012 I happened to be on a family vacation on a remote beach in the southern hemisphere. I built a sundial out of driftwood and traced the shadow

Re: [LEAPSECS] leap second festivities?

2015-06-30 Thread Rob Seaman
Any thoughts on watching Google’s (or anybody else’s) smear in action? Kind of like watching paint dry, but still… For folks without an analog radio handy, what’s the best online (simulated or realish) WWV (or other time signal) audio, strictly for ambience? Won’t be like listening in a

Re: [LEAPSECS] leap second festivities?

2015-06-30 Thread Richard Langley
...@maths.tcd.ie Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 5:47 PM To: Leap Second Discussion List Subject: Re: [LEAPSECS] leap second festivities? On Tue, Jun 30, 2015 at 09:42:50PM +0100, Rob Seaman wrote: Any thoughts on watching Google’s (or anybody else’s) smear in action? Kind of like watching paint dry

Re: [LEAPSECS] leap second festivities?

2015-06-30 Thread Rob Seaman
Hi Richard, Matsakis advocates the abolition of the leap second, pointing out that we already spend so much our time out of sync with the earth’s rotation.” So what you’re saying is that Demetrios won’t so much be celebrating for himself? ;-) “This is what happens in the summertime,” he

Re: [LEAPSECS] leap second festivities?

2015-06-30 Thread Rob Seaman
/ | - From: LEAPSECS leapsecs-boun...@leapsecond.com on behalf of David Malone dwmal...@maths.tcd.ie Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 5:47 PM To: Leap Second Discussion List Subject: Re: [LEAPSECS] leap second festivities? On Tue

Re: [LEAPSECS] leap second festivities?

2015-06-30 Thread Tom Van Baak
Some clocks are right twice a day. This one once every few years: http://leapsecond.com/images/CD47-235960.jpg /tvb ___ LEAPSECS mailing list LEAPSECS@leapsecond.com https://pairlist6.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/leapsecs

Re: [LEAPSECS] leap second festivities?

2015-06-30 Thread mike
No booze.. aargh! Have to make do with monitoring. As one experiment, I have just installed .8p3 on a BBB to see what a smeared LS looks like. Seems to be working. Or at least doing something. mike@bb2:~/src/python$ ntpq -c rv bb1 associd=0 status=4619 leap_add_sec, sync_ntp, 1 event,

Re: [LEAPSECS] leap second festivities?

2015-06-30 Thread Richard Langley
...@leapsecond.com on behalf of Rob Seaman sea...@noao.edu Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 4:51 PM To: Leap Second Discussion List Subject: Re: [LEAPSECS] leap second festivities? Hi Richard, Matsakis advocates the abolition of the leap second, pointing out that we already spend so much our time out

Re: [LEAPSECS] leap second festivities?

2015-06-30 Thread David Malone
What are people's plans for the day? I'm setting up as much of my usual data collection as I can get to work, in order to have and provide test-data for tests of leap-second handling. It doesn't look like I'll get my VLF sampler running though. I think LW receiver will be working, though I

Re: [LEAPSECS] leap second festivities?

2015-06-30 Thread David Malone
On Tue, Jun 30, 2015 at 09:42:50PM +0100, Rob Seaman wrote: Any thoughts on watching Google’s (or anybody else’s) smear in action? Kind of like watching paint dry, but still… I did think about fetching it hourly, to see if I could see dirft in the HTTP timestamps, but didn't get around to

Re: [LEAPSECS] leap second festivities?

2015-06-30 Thread Warner Losh
I’m getting hate mail from a former job. Seems like 7 years ago I put some stupid code into the tree. It was there for only a year or two, but today it took out a few really old systems that were still running this code… How’s your day going? Warner signature.asc Description: Message signed

Re: [LEAPSECS] leap second festivities?

2015-06-30 Thread Rob Seaman
Hi Warner, I’m getting hate mail from a former job. Seems like 7 years ago I put some stupid code into the tree. It was there for only a year or two, but today it took out a few really old systems that were still running this code… How’s your day going? Bummer. You don’t indicate if