Re: Accommodating both camps

2006-01-25 Thread Michael Deckers
Poul-Henning Kamp wrote on 2006-01-25: If we abandon leapseconds today to avoid getting computer problems, we still have several hundred years of time to decide how to deal with any long term effects. I do not think so. When civil time is no longer connected to solar time (which

Re: Accommodating both camps

2006-01-25 Thread John Cowan
Warner Losh scripsit: This is the biggest misunderstanding [...] an hour off of solar time. I now abbreviate this whole argument with the word Kashi. (To reiterate: |LMT-LCT| in Kashi, a city in western China (which has no DST), is about 3 hours.) But again, giving up leap seconds in UTC

Accommodating both camps

2006-01-24 Thread James Maynard
It seems clear that we have two camps, or schools of thought, on this mailing list: 1) Those who favour retaining the status quo ante, in which civil time is based on UTC and the standard time and frequency stations broadcast UTC; and 2) Those who find it difficult to cope with UTC's leap

Re: Accommodating both camps

2006-01-24 Thread James Maynard
Oops, I meant to say wish to abolish leap seconds in the third paragraph, rather than which to abolish leap seconds. James Maynard wrote: It seems clear that we have two camps, or schools of thought, on this mailing list: 1) Those who favour retaining the status quo ante, in which civil time

Re: Accommodating both camps

2006-01-24 Thread Ed Davies
James Maynard wrote: I wonder, though, whether those in the other camp would find it acceptable to have the standard time and frequency stations not only broadcast UTC and DUT1 (= UT1 - UTC, to 0.1 s resolution), but also to broadcast DTAI (= TAI - UTC, 1 s resolution)? A full

Re: Accommodating both camps

2006-01-24 Thread Warner Losh
It seems clear that we have two camps, or schools of thought, on this mailing list: 1) Those who favour retaining the status quo ante, in which civil time is based on UTC and the standard time and frequency stations broadcast UTC; and 2) Those who find it difficult to cope with UTC's leap