Hi
I cannot see the images on Ancestry.com, any longer. I had automatic
updates on my Windows XP Service pack two and it downloaded the update with
service pack three. Over the weekend I had all kinds of problenms with My Dell
desktop computer and finally got Dell tech support to help me.
So how would you label that field - Awaiting Collection ;-)
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Pauline B.
Cramer
Sent: Monday, 16 June 2008 11:33 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] [Legacy User Group] Version
Hi
Is it possible to print a list of the assigned sources just for one
individual at a time? I would like to print the assigned sources window that
pops up when you hit the sources icon that is under each individuals
information box. Thankyou
Regards, Dianne
Legacy User Group
Michele,
I have just converted/sorted all my junk into MRIN order. (Well a lot of it
so far)
No3. The MRIN is shown at the bottom of the screen labeled M: X X=
Marriage Number.
No1. Yes.
No2. I have been using File Folders bought from the local Big W store (Read
Wal-Mart in US) with the MRIN
Hi Darlene,
You really should take this problem to Ancestry for assistance.
They have a Help Desk (click on Help in the top right-hand corner of the
screen when you're at their site), or there are message boards for peer
support (click on Community in the bar at the top of the screen, or go
Perhaps you should keep the subject to the Problems with the legacy
programme, and a bit more
civil with some of your replies to the list. I do have filters working, thank
you.
Bob
--- Mark K [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Perhaps you should try some of the filtering and sorting options that
Hi Dianne,
Is it possible to print a list of the assigned sources just for one
individual at a time? I would like to print the assigned sources window
that pops up when you hit the sources icon that is under each
individuals information box.
I can't see that this is possible - however, you
The short answer (sorry - it is late and I should be in bed!):
* Make sure both are fairly clean (i.e.: in each one, clean up as many
dups, bad spellings, inconsistent locations, clean up any islands or extra
trees if they are bogus (View, TreeFinder, Refresh), etc)
* Back up both
* Make a
Hi Michelle,
1. Yes, that is what I do.
2. Yes, that is what I do.
3. The MRIN number is the one at the bottom, right of the time, left of the
date. There are three sets of numbers e.g. H:1 M:1 W:44. The MRIN is M:1
(MRIN 1). I think this is the default setting as it seems like mine
Sounds like you may have installed Legacy twice in 2 different folders (The
one that still runs - is it your current version? For example, maybe you
installed version 7 in a different folder from version 6, and have now
uninstalled version 7 but version 6 is what still runs - or vice-versa)
If Legacy isn't giving you a hint (RIN or MRIN number or such), you might
want to try exporting your file to a GEDCOM.
Then, open that GEDCOM in a text editor (notepad, or even MS-Word or any
other word-processor)
Do a find on GIVN
Repeat the find to look at all the GIVN entries for anything
Darlene,
This is well off topic and I am only answering on list because this is becoming
an increasing problem, so my apologies to those who know it all.
This has nothing to do with Ancestry or any other software, but is a known
problem between Dell and Microsoft - when SP3 is installed it
I can't offer specific advice on a numbering system, as mine is all over the
place at the minute. However, the mention of plastic sleeves compelled me to
offer some words concerning general storage issues.
I learned just how bad plastic sleeves can be when I inherited a lot of
family documents
Darlene, I'm been having many difficulties with Ancestry images as well,
although my particular problem seems intermittent. It started when they
upgraded the site with enhanced searching.
I don't know if this is applicable to a frozen screen, but could your
Internet Security and/or Block Pop-ups
Christine,
You are correct in saying that unless archive quality sleeves are used the
plasticisers used in the sleeve will damage photos. With Magnetic albums
there is a double whammy as both the adhesive and plastic will attack them!
Ron Ferguson
Art Seddon wrote
Potential Problems is giving:
There may be a Title entered in the Name field, such as 'Jr.', 'M.D.',
'Rev.' or Dr.'. Remove the title from the Name field and enter it into
a Title field. error when Title is properly entered in the Title
pre. field.
What have you got in the
Unfortunately the idea of using cds / dvd as an archive medium may not be as
good as many people believe. The failure rate after several years is very high
with either partial or total failure to read the files.
With external hard drives and now even 8GB flash drives so cheap these are a
I am a newbie to Legacy - it arrived in the post on Saturday.
I have been researching my family history for about 10 years, and for much of
that time I have used a different genealogy programme. I was never completely
happy with it, so I've migrated to Legacy on the advice of a friend.
Christine, you are correct I should have said Archive quality sleeves cost
a couple of bob more but worth it.
Steve
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Christine
Pearce
Sent: Monday, 16 June 2008 6:54 PM
To:
I do as Bob says with some additional things:
1) I name my files with MergeTo or MergeFrom, depending on which the
file represents, appended to the regular names.
2) I renumber all incoming RINs and MRINs with something obvious. I only
have around 1500 people so far so I have the RINs and MRINs
Pat,
Welcome.
I will use this oft repeated phrase - I wish I had decided on a decent storage
system at the time I started! Unfortunately I didn't and now have far too many
records to even think of putting them in a logical order. So, congratulations!
To me your system looks fine and in
I have been adding sources using the new source template and so far so good.
However, I need to convert my gazillion old sources over to the new format.
Someone said that the conversion is not yet available. Does anyone know
when it will be available?
Legacy User Group guidelines:
Hi Michelle,
I seem to remember reading that Legacy are not making any promises as to
when this will be available. I reckon this is sensible really, in case they
have to break the promise.
Best wishes
David
*
David S Brookes
Musical
Mark, I completely agree - except I would like to be able to hit enter and
go straight from the index view to the family screen, a habit that I have
been unable to break after using the TMG index for several years.
It's a small thing, but would be much appreciated.
Janis Walker Gilmore
From:
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From: Mike Fry [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2008 6:24 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Descendant book printing problem (information
written over picture)
Allen Prunty wrote:
While this is an
And it also reminds you of your age when you married.{:-)
At first I thought it was telling me how long I had been married.{;-))
Colin.
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From: Wendy Howard
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Monday, June 16, 2008 7:46 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG]
I wanted to say thank you to those at Legacy that were smart enough to make
it where the new sources done using the Source Writer show up on the list as
bulleted. I am adding sources one at a time and they have the same name as
my old sources. I can see which are the new entries vs. the old
I too wish I had done lots of things differently when I first started. I had
some 40+ years worth of manual files that I entered into my PC back in the
early 1990's under another program. When I migrated to Legacy about 2+ months
ago, I encountered a plethora of details that I wish I had
Pat,
I too am new to Legacy and I believe that you will not be disappointed in the
quality of the product. With that said, I have been researching my family
since 2001- I have my computer set up the following way.
My Documents
Genealogy
Each family has their own folder
in each
I am glad I am not the only one! I am trying to get 20 years of research in
Legacy and standardized. I used FTM up until their last upgrade which I
hated. I have been VERY happy since I have switched to Legacy (Oct 07). I
have been working on it since then and I still haven't fixed
Kathy,
EXCELLENT! In the MasterLists (I usually only looked at Location) -
the Surname showed all caps for the Mc* names (I do not know how)
- but a simple EDIT there fixed them all throughout my files. Nice -
simple fix that worked - just what was needed.
Thanks,
Keith
On Sun, Jun 15,
My original message got clipped ... wonder why?
I doubt that there will be official support on there either... hence it's an
UNOFFICIAL Support forum... ergo... Users helping Users. And there are some
VERY good users out there here that can offer a lot of help.
Hope this clears that up.
Assigned Source ListDiane...
Open a wordpad window... simply click start then click run and type wordpad and
hit enter to open this program (or you can even us MS Word). Go back to legacy
and get the data to display on the screen like you like it.
Then hit your printscreen button.
Click on
I suggest that so long as you are consistent, and have an organized answer
for what if issues, what makes sense to you is what's best regardless of
what the rest of us do. That said -
Be sure your electronic records including Legacy and any other (pictures,
etc) files have some way to tie to
Hi David,
You may have missed my point I recognize degrees, minutes and decimals
of minutes is a good form of GPS. My point is that when gathering GPS
locations, from the Internet and books, most are in decimals of degrees
format. Thus, converting them to Legacy format is a pain in the a--.
I think you're on the right track.
One comment/suggestion:
Legacy isn't really good with large file sizes. If you have photos,
scans, pdf's, etc. that are large (sometimes several megabytes), use a photo
or
pdf product to make a reduced copy. I generally try to ensure that the
Note that the deluxe version includes a converter from
degrees-minutes-seconds to decimal degrees. It is under Tools, Distance and
Bearing calculator
Bob
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From: Larry Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Monday, June 16, 2008
I don't have much info stored in my PC - I've been one of those that (until
recently) was looking for just the facts from family. I now need to go back
and revisit to document those facts and to add sources (If I had only known . .
.!) .
However, with that being said, if you plan on attaching
I am glad to see this discussion as Legacy 7 has prompted me to clean up my
files too. I only started using Legacy6 in earnest last summer, and had
quite a bit of difficulty with sourcing; when I heard the news of the the
expected update, I put everything on hold. Now I have an avalanche of paper
Considering what happened with V7 I'd be surprised if Legacy *ever*, even
vaguely, committed to a certain time frame again- for anything; I'd certainly
not blame them!
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From: music-line [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Monday, June 16,
Bob,
Resisting making any comment about the advisability or otherwise of storing
data in the root drive, (please see the archives there's loads on it - address
at the bottom), I would make only one comment. Why wait for Legacy to put in
the File folder, C:\Legacy\Files - if you want it just
Years ago I ran into this, and at the time changed to 'Don't change what I
enter' under DATA FORMAT, below Initial caps.
Rich in LA CA
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From: GeoSci [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Legacy User Group LegacyUserGroup@LegacyFamilyTree.com
Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2008 7:09:01 PM
Gail,
The Date Accessed field is actually in the Source Detail screen. You may be
confusing this with the Publish Date, which is in the master source. The
publish date should be the date when the database was published.
I actually used to split my census sources at the city level, but am now
If you want to leave whatever is in the field there,
just check off the PPlist. I have over a couple
hundred at the moment, most of which are errors
recieved from other genealogists and websites. You
never have to 'fix' them.
Rich in LA CA
--- Art Seddon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Thanks for the
Thanks for the try, Jenny.
Art Seddon
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From: Jenny M Benson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyFamilyTree.com
Sent: Monday, June 16, 2008 2:20 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Potential Problems error
Art Seddon wrote
Potential Problems is giving:
There may be a
.001 of a minute of arc is about 1 inch. Should be accurate enough for most
purposes.
John
2008/6/16 Larry Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Hi David,
You may have missed my point I recognize degrees, minutes and decimals
of minutes is a good form of GPS. My point is that when gathering GPS
Pat:
No comments on your file structure, but I would say this: Legacy has
several wonderful tools, screens, and reports for finding data entry
inconsistencies and missing information very quickly. It could be a lot
easier and faster to review/edit your file from within Legacy than retyping
all
Hello. Don't forget that Legacy provides a way for you to convert DMS to
decimal degrees, and vice versa! Quite a few people are pleasantly
pleased to discover this. To find it, go to Add/Edit Location.
For just a few locations, 50 or so or fewer, it is not too bad. But if
you have 100s or
Bob.
Is there a way to have the program transfer these numbers to a location
without cut and paste back and forth?
Art Seddon
Robert57P via Gmail wrote:
Note that the deluxe version includes a converter from
degrees-minutes-seconds to decimal degrees. It is under Tools, Distance and
Bearing
Hi Geoff, now I'm a little confused. On the Master Source Definition
tab for a census, I see a publish date field and I see a recorded
date field down at the botton of the screen in the gray part.
I see that when I type something in the publish date field, it shows
up in the bibliography output
Larry,
I see your point. I guess I'm just *too* traditional but I hate Lat/Long
being decimalised. Having said that, we do use degrees, minutes and decimals of
minutes so I haven't really got a leg to stand on have I?
Since degrees and decimals of degrees are being used in the world I'll
Gail,
The Recorded Date field is just a field where some people will type in the
date that they either added the source. I've never used it. The Date
Accessed field is in the templates for the online sources. To see it you
might have to scroll down in the list a bit.
Thanks,
Geoff Rasmussen
Got this announcement when I finished the email
Announcing: updating system 6-11-08, may be preventing viewing original
records
On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 1:25 PM, Christina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Darlene,
I am having problems as well. I have not done anything to my computer and
tried both
Darlene,
I am having problems as well. I have not done anything to my computer and
tried both browsers IE 7 and Netscape 9. I have sent a message to Ancestry
about the problem.
Christina
On Sun, Jun 15, 2008 at 10:50 PM, Darlene Don Hicks [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Hi
I cannot see the
Kirsten and Pat,
I agree with you, Kirsten, that it would be easier and faster to review data
from within Legacy instead of retyping.
BUT - having said that, will say that keying in the information again is
still enlightening in some mystical way. You really do see things that you
don't see in
Before anyone gets really excited about the accuracy of GPS, let me point
out that commercial units are only accurate to about 3 meters (~10 ft.).
Different people with the same/different unit can get different readings.
This may be due to the time of the day that the reading was taken, the
person
I sure can't find it!
Joyce
On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 9:54 AM, Allen Prunty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
My original message got clipped ... wonder why?
I doubt that there will be official support on there either... hence it's
an UNOFFICIAL Support forum... ergo... Users helping Users. And there
Relationship Calculator and Tools Set Relationship both work, very quickly
- with approx. 8500 individuals. However, non-blood relationships do not
display on the Family View for more than two generations, regardless of how
many generations I have selected to display. For example, I can only
If you are having problems with ancestry.com it will help if you state the
brand of processor (intel or amd), the operating system (XP or Vista) and what
service pack you are on. It has already been stated that an amd based computer
with XP SP3 has known issues with ancestry.com and it is not
Jan,
Same here, but I'm not sure exactly what is meant by non-blood relationships.
My view is the same as yours, but.
Ron Ferguson
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New Blog: Free Contacts Database for use with Open Office
http://www.fergys.co.uk
View
Wouldn't an Individual report do what you want too? As long as you've
selected all the source elements you want to see (eg pictures), I just
tried these methods with a person who has more sources than one screen
shot if I used the screen shot and paste method, but the Individual
report is pretty
Bill
The official Legacy answer is to go to the support pages and look at the
errors by number. I've reported this problem twice and tried some of the
solutions offered on the support page. I've even changed computers and in
doing that gone from XP to Vista. But I still get the problem. Not every
I have an AMD processor with SP3 on XP- AMT Turion 64- and never had any issues
with viewing what is on Ancestry.
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From: Mark Kmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To:
legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.commailto:legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Monday, June
I've only entered two new sources using the sourcewriter. In neither case
was the source used more than once for the individual and/or family. When I
create a family group report on my laptop, it shows the sources correctly.
When I create it on my laptop, using the same settings, it only shows the
Thankyou so much. This is exactly what I wanted.
Regards, Dianne
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Allen
Prunty
Sent: Monday, 16 June 2008 11:51 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Assigned Source List
Oops! I meant it prints correctly on my laptop and not on my DESLTOP.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Claire
Spinelli
Sent: Monday, June 16, 2008 8:08 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Printing Sources in
Michelle,
For clarification, I did not say *all* AMD processors not did I say *all* Dell
PC's. I did say that there is a known problem involving SP3 with Dell and AMD.
Google will give exact details.
Ron Ferguson
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New
Thanks for all the help. There was something goofy with my linking. I
unlinked the parents, so this individual was was not linked to any parent at
all. But when I brought him up again in family view, the same parents
including the wrong one was there! I finally just deleted him altogether and
I bad
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From: ronald fergusonmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To:
legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.commailto:legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Monday, June 16, 2008 7:34 PM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Off topic, but need help, off of this list,
concerning
hey you all- I just purchased and received the PDF version of the Legacy 7
manual- here is my first question, and please forgive me if this question has
already been asked- wouldn't want to offend anyone if it has
On page 14 it shows what the Pedigree view should look like, mine does not
I also have had the same Error 91 and followed the support suggestions. At
first I just did a file maintenance check/repair to clear the problem,
however, this was needed every time if did a backup.
I later did an export to legacy file to create a new file and cleared the
problem for several
Right Click on the background and select show spouse/child and siblings list
Clancy
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of MICHELLE CROSBY
Sent: Monday, June 16, 2008 6:20 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup
Subject:
hey you all- I just purchased and received
Hi Shelly,
There are options available, which you can turn on and off as you
please. Right-click on the background of the Pedigree View (you'll know
you're in the right place, 'cos at the bottom left of your window it
will say Right click for Options Menu) and select the options you want.
Shelly said:
hey you all- I just purchased and received the PDF version of the
Legacy 7 manual- here is my first question, and please forgive me if
this question has already been asked- wouldn't want to offend anyone
if it has Smiley emoticon
On page 14 it shows what the Pedigree view should
Well, if I found the 1850 census *online* at Ancestry.com, wouldn't I
want/need to provide an accessed date for when I found it online?
There is no place in Legacy within the 1850 US Census (found online)
template to provide the accessed date.
The EE template for the 1850 US census found online
For V7 use this URL:
http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/RevisionHistory7.asp
Nothing about anything fixed, just basic release
Clancy
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Robert57P via
Gmail
Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2008 11:02 AM
To:
Gail,
I've created a screenshot for you to review. Look at the image at
http://www.millenniacorp.com/Geoff/1850.jpg. Note that this is part of the
source detail, meaning, the screen after you enter the information for the
Master Source.
Thanks,
Geoff Rasmussen
Millennia Corporation
[EMAIL
Right click in an empty area on the left side of the screen. You can add the
spouse and siblings boxes.
Ron Bernier
Woonsocket, RI
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of GeoSci
Sent: Monday, June 16, 2008 9:42 PM
To: Legacy User Group
If you right click on an empty area of the pedigree view there is an option
show spouse/child and sibling lists.
Mark
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 20:19:51
-0500Subject:
hey you all- I just purchased and received the PDF version of the Legacy 7
manual-
OK, now I think I see the issue here. Either you are selecting a
different master source type or somehow you are in possession of a
different/better version of this same template. My template (when I
select census records as the source type, followed by 1) United
States 2) Federal Census
Gail,
You are not going crazy.
I have had so little time to play with this - just got v7 before going to
IGHR, and am now on a family trip. When I saw your earlier message, I did
remember that some other source that I entered DID have an accessed date,
but I had to scroll down to it. I thought
Scroll down and it's there. See Geoff's right hand red arrow in the
screenshot
Regards,
Dave (NZ).
From: Janis Gilmore
Sent: Tue 17/06/2008 14:34
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] V7: Accessed date for lumped US Census Entries - for
Geoff
Gail,
You
Gail and Others,
In Step 3 of the 1850 Federal Census template you have to scroll down...The
box where you can enter the Accessed Date IS there.
Tom Herson
Ithaca, NY
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From: Janis Gilmore [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Monday,
Gail,
Look to the right of the data entry fields for
Jurisdiction, Roll, Page, etc. There should be a
scroll bar. Click on the bottom of the scroll bar and
Date Accessed will appear.
(At least it does for me.)
--- Gail Nestor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
OK, now I think I see the issue here.
The accessed date field is in the Citation Details portion since it will
change for each citation. However, Legacy inserts the accessed date
information into the same parentheses as the URL. Neat.
Bill
Bill Bienia, PLCGS
www.CobblestoneLegacies.com
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From: [EMAIL
And this is one of the things about EE and Sourcewriter that I have a
problem with. Why would one need an Access date for a federal census
- it will never change?!? I can see (to a point) why one might want
to know if it was viewed on Ancestry.com or Heritage Quest, etc. since
some are clearer
Same for Ver 6 Deluxe.
That is, the part you wrote about the non-relationships displaying only up to
in-laws and spouse of aunt or uncle. Jane Tripp
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] V7 Relationship Calculator
Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008
Thanks Dave! Man, I know it's getting pretty late bacause I just
totally missed the scroll bar on my detail screen! Now it works
perfectly!! It's really too bad the fields can't all fit on one page
because I'll bet you that more people than just me are going to
overlook this too. It might be
This is the one I have selected:
Census Records United States Federal census records 1850
population schedule Online images
Step 2: fill in the master source
Step 3's fields:
Jurisdiction city
Roll
Page
Dwelling no
Family no
ID of
Geoff:
I second Gail's request. Tips about converting sources (while waiting for
the tool) would certainly be welcome.
Kirsten
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Gail
Nestor
Sent: Monday, June 16, 2008 8:01 PM
To:
Depending on how detailed your link is, it tells you when that
particular link was good. One thing I have found that I like to do is
after I've searched on the name, etc. to get to a census, I will then,
in another browser window, follow the path from year, state, township,
page number to
Well, if we are to take from the recommendations of the online book, then
the location of the online image is just a repository, nothing more. Does
the date I went to the library mean anything? Probably not.
Elizabeth
researching the descendants of William and Sarah (Patterson) Thompson
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From: Robert Carneal USA [EMAIL PROTECTED]
For just a few locations, 50 or so or fewer, it is not too bad. But if you
have 100s or 1,000s of locations to convert, it is trying to do conversion
for that many!
Robert
After opening the Legacy database in
Is there a way to TURN OFF the warning about not having a period after
an initial? Ron - I bet you wish you could do it for the Mr, Miss,
etc. That new feature is a bit over the top for some things -
especially on editing something on a person's screen - when you go to
save a minor correction.
I'm not sure what your point is, Elizabeth. There is a difference.
Online sources can be hard to find--especially with transcription
errors by enumerators or by those creating databases. It's not always
easy to find, just by searching on the person's name, the specific
census image. So,
Keith,
I did, a long time ago!
OptionsCustomiseOtherTurn on or off Optional Reminder MessagesMessages and
uncheck the bottom two boxes.
I would have been screaming from the rooftops by now if I hadn't found it!!!
Ron Ferguson
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