Re: [LegacyUG] OT but pertinent IMHO

2007-08-18 Thread Dawn Crowley
I think that sometimes we forget that American English is not the first language of many subscribers to this list. The variety of Legacy users increases spelling and grammar differences, which may be the root of some misunderstandings. That said, there has been an uptick in whining lately.

Re: [LegacyUG] OT but pertinent IMHO

2007-08-18 Thread Sara Binkley Tarpley
Well, Cathy has said something that I have wanted to say for some time. I have been on a number of genealogy lists for about ten years, and this list has more harshness and rudeness than any list I have ever been on. I am surprised that it is tolerated. Sara . Cathy Champion wrote: To

Re: [LegacyUG] A PROBLEM WITH LEGACY ON TWO COMPUTERS!

2007-08-18 Thread Cathy
Hi Darlene, Is it possible that you have two Legacy installations on the second computer - one that is updated to the latest build and one that isn't? This could happen if you shifted program files after installation or if for some other reason the Registry was corrupted. If you cancel out

Re: [LegacyUG] OT but pertinent IMHO

2007-08-18 Thread Yvonne Murgatroyd
Cathy, I agree wholeheartedly with you, so many people are extremely rude, and do not take into account that there are NEW people on the list, and they are NEW to Genealogy all it's offshoots, I also do not post, for fear of people saying This Is Not Legacy Related etc etc. But I WILL say

Re: [LegacyUG] OT but pertinent IMHO

2007-08-18 Thread Renee Zamora
I agree with you all, this is about the nastiest genealogy mailing list I have ever been on. But, I need the info so I stay. Genealogist are usually very tolerant of beginners and I have no idea why so many on this mailing list are so cranky. The best mailing list out there is GEN-NEWBIE a

Re: [LegacyUG] OT but pertinent IMHO

2007-08-18 Thread Jenny M Benson
Cathy Champion wrote I am new to this group and am wondering why so many people on this list are so cranky. I am sometimes amazed at how cranky people can get over a very minor thing - or something someone writes which I had read in an entirely different way to how the offended person had.

[LegacyUG]

2007-08-18 Thread The Eccles Family
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[LegacyUG] To be a Lumper or a Splitter

2007-08-18 Thread The Eccles Family
Hi Everyone, All this discussion has inspired me to take a look at my own sources - not such a pretty site. Up until now I have be a lumper eg one master source for New South Wales Birth certificates with each certificate being given it's own File Id and details given in the source detail

Re: [LegacyUG] Favorite Legacy Tip

2007-08-18 Thread Jenny M Benson
Renee Zamora wrote I can't think of any more right now but I know I do a lot of right clicking on the screens to see what they will do. If you have a favorite tip why don't you share it with the rest of the group. Can I cheat and have two favourites? My first would be: keep reading this

Re: [LegacyUG] To be a Lumper or a Splitter

2007-08-18 Thread Jenny M Benson
The Eccles Family wrote The benefit for being a lumper is less master sources. Benefits to being a splitter would be easier to see who is attached to each master source. What would others recommend? *Definitely* the former. Duplicating information is very bad database practise. It is

RE: [LegacyUG] To be a Lumper or a Splitter

2007-08-18 Thread ronald ferguson
Anne, I am a lumper, and furthermore my master source is the place where I got the information from, eg. Ancestry, Free BMD, findmypast etc. I have absolutely no intention of changing either. I use the source detail to give all other relevant information. Ron Ferguson

Re: [LegacyUG] To be a Lumper or a Splitter

2007-08-18 Thread Bruce Jones
I am also a lumper; however, if you are not sure which way YOU want to go, be aware (as I learned from experience) that it is MUCY On 8/18/07, ronald ferguson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anne, I am a lumper, and furthermore my master source is the place where I got the information from, eg.

Re: [LegacyUG] To be a Lumper or a Splitter

2007-08-18 Thread Bruce Jones
Sorry, my fingers went too fast and I sent the previous email prematurely. Again It is a personal choice. I also tend toward being a lumper; however, if you are not sure which way YOU want to go, be aware (as I learned from experience) that it is MUCH easier to go from splitting to lumping than

Re: [LegacyUG] A PROBLEM WITH LEGACY ON TWO COMPUTERS!

2007-08-18 Thread Darlene Don Hicks
Hi Cathy, Thank you so very much for helping me fix what was wrong. On the second computer, I went to help, general information and it said I had Legacy 6 with the .60 at the end instead of .155, so I updated it and now it works fine on both computers. :-D Thanks, again, Cathy, for your

[LegacyUG] Bug in Descendant Chart reports

2007-08-18 Thread Peter Haughton
Dear Group I have only just noticed this annoying bug: When I use the Descendant Chart report with amongst other things the options: Marriage date and place Pack information on one line then the marriage info does not appear. I am running the latest version 6.0.0.155 28 July 2007. Has anyone

RE: [LegacyUG] Bug in Descendant Chart reports

2007-08-18 Thread ronald ferguson
Peter, If I understand you correctly then this is *not* a bug. You have selected a *Chart* and you will notice that, for this reason, the events are greyed out. If you wish to include these you need to select the Descendant Report and if you want both a Report and a Chart then you need to

Re: [LegacyUG] Bug in Descendant Chart reports

2007-08-18 Thread Cathy
Hi Peter, No problem here with build 155 Marriage date and place are listed after the spouse's birth date and place before spouse's death date and place when Pack information on one line in Descendant chart is chosen. You may want to try resetting the report options and making your choices

RE: [LegacyUG] text overflowing box

2007-08-18 Thread ronald ferguson
Paul, Attchments are not allowed and my email reader is also set to reject them. If you wish to show something then please try and put it on a website. Ron Ferguson _ For Genealogy, Software and Social visit:

RE: [LegacyUG] text overflowing box

2007-08-18 Thread Rodney Hall
This should be posted on [EMAIL PROTECTED] where attachments and HTML are permitted, not on this list. -- Rodney Hall Heywood, Lancashire Suaviter sed fortiter Agreeably but powerfully ~ [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://rmhh.co.uk/ http://rmhh.org.uk/ ~ From: [EMAIL

Re: [LegacyUG] OT but pertinent IMHO

2007-08-18 Thread Cathy Champion
But if I may make one little request, please use the Legacy Help files as your *first* resort! No question is dumb if you don't know the answer, but it can be a little irksome if people don't make any attempt to help themselves. Good point, well taken. Thanks -- Cathy Champion in

Re: [LegacyUG] OT but pertinent IMHO

2007-08-18 Thread Cathy Champion
Well, rather than respond to EVERYONE and tie up the list, I will say to all thank you for the comments, both on and off list. Everyone had good points to make, and I agree with a number of you that wading through long, unedited emails is tedious and aggravating, but sometimes people

Re: [LegacyUG] Favorite Legacy Tip

2007-08-18 Thread Sharon Perdue
Renee - I have know about the surname, given name forever BUT NEVER knew about your rotating tip. The is so cool - thanks!! - Original Message - From: Renee Zamora To: Legacy Mailing List Sent: Friday, August 17, 2007 7:00 PM Subject: [LegacyUG] Favorite Legacy Tip I was

Re: [LegacyUG] Favorite Legacy Tip

2007-08-18 Thread Dawn Crowley
Not only for Legacy, per se, but I find that having my minor children use a program and then show me how to use it gives me lots of insight. My cub scout pointed out the date calculator while earning a genealogy belt loop. My teenage daughters explained the master lists concept to me after

Re: [LegacyUG] To be a Lumper or a Splitter

2007-08-18 Thread Sharon Perdue
Anne Eccles commented: Benefits to being a splitter would be easier to see who is attached to each master source. You can get a source citation report showing records attached to a master source, and it can also show the specific fields using the source. Another lumper, Sharon -

[LegacyUG] icon font size

2007-08-18 Thread Dawn Crowley
Warning: This may be a windows question rather than specific to Legacy. Is there a way to adjust the icon font size? I checked customize fonts, where everything is set to no smaller than 10, but the icon font remains too tiny to read readily. Thank you, Dawn Have you unlocked the

Re: [LegacyUG] OT but pertinent IMHO

2007-08-18 Thread Gene Young
Cathy Champion wrote: To the group: I am new to this group and am wondering why so many people on this list are so cranky. 1) Possibly because there are so many who have a proprietary feeling about the list, believing it is THEIR list. g It makes me hesitate to ask questions for

RE: [LegacyUG] OT but pertinent IMHO

2007-08-18 Thread Paul A.
Yvonne, Sadly, one of the items that gets people more “worked up” on this list is when people send in HTML. The list rules say that all messages need to be in plain text and no attachments. I have mine set to plain text yet when I reply to one that is HTML, it sends the reply in HTML. If you

RE: [LegacyUG] OT but pertinent IMHO

2007-08-18 Thread Paul A.
Renee, I have respectfully disagree. I think the Legacy list is much better than the gen-newbie. In the past people would get just as ugly on there as on here! I remember one person that was mean and nasty to most people on there and if you defended yourself, the admin would instantly

RE: [LegacyUG] Favorite Legacy Tip

2007-08-18 Thread Paul A.
Renee, Thanks for that tip. It was something I never knew about and a handy time saving one at that. -- Paul What a glorious world God Almighty has given us. How thankless and ungrateful we are, and how we labor to mar His gifts. ~ Gen. Robert E. Lee, CSA  

[LegacyUG] Reinstalling Legacy

2007-08-18 Thread Pat Hickin
QUESTION: What to download? BACKGROUND: I was having many problems with my computer (Dell) and had to reset it or whatever (Dell took over control so this was done remotely) and thereby lost all my programs. I had done a backup of everything in June, but for this I just backed up folders

Re: [LegacyUG] Alphabetizing Names

2007-08-18 Thread stone1322
Thanks to everyone who replied. AACR2 is Anglo-American Cataloguing Rules. That's the crux of the matter. This alphabetizing is not and American or an English-speaking problem, therefore it will NOT be addressed. Bill From: Tracy Skegg [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2007/08/17 Fri PM 07:55:35

Re: [LegacyUG] OT but pertinent IMHO

2007-08-18 Thread Jim Keener
Have you unlocked the real power of Legacy? Legacy 6.0 Deluxe has 92 features not found in the Standard Edition. Learn more about these features at http://legacyfamilytree.com/DeluxeEdition.asp. Legacy User Group guidelines can be found at: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp

Re: [LegacyUG] To be a Lumper or a Splitter

2007-08-18 Thread Mary Young
I'm a dedicated splitter. This way, you don't need Reports to see who's attached to what, just Master Source List View List Anytime I try lumping I create a mess - admittedly my own fault through poor eyesight, wrong keystrokes and over-enthusiastic use of the Source clipboard g. -- Regards Mary

Re: [LegacyUG] OT but pertinent IMHO

2007-08-18 Thread Jim Keener
I do not post much on this list, but I read several times, every day. Yes there are two or three people who get pretty nasty. I've had one post where I was answered very rudely, but I don't think we need to get too critical of the list in general. I've received a lot of help here. I don't

[LegacyUG] OT but pertinent IMHO

2007-08-18 Thread Yvonne Murgatroyd
Paul my mail IS set to plain textif it still appears as html then I really dont know what else to do. Yvonne Murgatroyd www.buxtonairedales.com Never look for a worm in the apple of your eye Langston Hughes Have you unlocked the real power of Legacy? Legacy 6.0 Deluxe has 92 features not

[LegacyUG] Plain text - was OT but pertinent IMHO

2007-08-18 Thread Jackie King
Paul: The message headers I am receiving with Yvonne's messages indicate they ARE being sent in plain text. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 And I've forgotten who pointed out the hyphen hypen space, but thanks. Yvonne Murgatroyd wrote: Paul my mail

RE: [LegacyUG] Reinstalling Legacy

2007-08-18 Thread Larry Darnell
Pat, If you contact Sherry at Legacy, she might be able to tell you your original key so you can unlock Deluxe again. Sherry Customer Support Millennia Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED] Larry -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Pat Hickin Sent:

RE: [LegacyUG] Reinstalling Legacy

2007-08-18 Thread Sherry/Support
Pat, You just need to go to our website and download Legacy again- click on the Download button and select Download Legacy. After you've installed Legacy, go to Help Unlock Legacy Deluxe to unlock the Deluxe features. To get your customer number, please contact Sales. You can contact them by

Re: [LegacyUG] Favorite Legacy Tip

2007-08-18 Thread Mary Young
Run Potential Problems Report and Check'n'Repair often - especially after major changes in your data. -- Regards Mary Young, Edinburgh Have you unlocked the real power of Legacy? Legacy 6.0 Deluxe has 92 features not found in the Standard Edition. Learn more about these features at

Re: [LegacyUG] Where to put age at death

2007-08-18 Thread Kirstin Martinez
I would also like to see the ages. I get tired of having to constantly calculate them myself, or pull up the calendar function to do it for me. And I like Math! Kirstin June McDonald wrote: I would dearly like to have ages at events showing alongside each event (as they do in RootsMagic). I

Re: [LegacyUG] Where to put age at death

2007-08-18 Thread Kirstin Martinez
Sherry, I am also an x-Roots Magic user. I would very much like to see the ages when I look at the screen. Kirstin Sherry/Support wrote: June, That's *not* what I said. My response was: I would not expect the option you're looking for to be in v7. I haven't had any other requests for

RE: [LegacyUG] Reinstalling Legacy

2007-08-18 Thread Sherry/Support
Nope, not me. You'll have to contact Sales. You can contact them by sending an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or by phone from the US and Canada 1-800-753-3453. Thanks for using Legacy. Sherry Customer Support Millennia Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com We are changing

Re: [LegacyUG] Where to put age at death

2007-08-18 Thread Cricket Hackmann
I'm sure this is not exactly what you are looking for, but it might be a workaround. Whenever I want a quick glance at the ages for events, I just click on the Chronology tab -- it gives the ages along the left side of the screen. It's not the same as having them listed adjacent to the events on

Re: [LegacyUG] Where to put age at death

2007-08-18 Thread Phil Hawkins
Kirstin Martinez wrote: I would also like to see the ages. I get tired of having to constantly calculate them myself, or pull up the calendar function to do it for me. And I like Math! Kirstin Have you tried the Control+A tactic? In most views hitting this combination on your keyboard will

Re: [LegacyUG] Favorite Legacy Tip

2007-08-18 Thread Heather Stovold
Well, I learned it here - but setting the options to show the headings differently if the person is alive is nice. And - just found out about the ctrl-a on another thread on a lot of screens, to see the ages people were at various main events... Heather Have you unlocked the real power of

[LegacyUG] please forgive my HTML (was OT but pertinent IMHO)

2007-08-18 Thread Richard Van Wasshnova
This message is HTML. Please forgive me for not following the rule this time. Feel free to scold me, politely, if I do it again. Yvonne, understand I am not scolding, just educating. I am using Outlook Express. It comes up in HTML format because I clicked the Reply icon with one incorrect

Re: [LegacyUG] Favorite Legacy Tip

2007-08-18 Thread Susan Daily
My favorite tips (plural): 1. Probably the biggest one was Source clipboard - using the little dash button to paste a source that was copied into memory into another data area. 2. Right-clicking over an entry idintifier like Born in individual view, and getting to choose one of the last ten

Re: [LegacyUG] Favorite Legacy Tip

2007-08-18 Thread Kay Fordham
Heather, Thanks for reminding me about the living feature. I saw reference to it in the help files as follows. Legacy can show an indication of whether or not the main two individuals are marked as Living and also each child in the list below them. To do this, check the Highlight Living

Re: [LegacyUG] icon font size

2007-08-18 Thread Mitch Mackrory
Dawn, This was a Legacy question... Right click on the tool bar (away from the Icons) and you'll get a wonderful surprise. At the bottom, select Options, then Buitton Size and you'll get three size options. Cheers, Mitch On 8/18/07, Dawn Crowley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Warning: This may

[LegacyUG] Ages - Legacy Tip

2007-08-18 Thread Susie Zada
Hi Folks, I know this doesn't relate to the discussion about ages appearing on reports but in case anyone hasn't found (or has forgotten) this wonderful feature ... When in family view just press Ctrl-A Wonderful little feature! Regards . Susie Z Have you unlocked the

Re: [LegacyUG] icon font size

2007-08-18 Thread Dawn Crowley
Thank you. That adjusts the size of the buttons, which is helpful. However, the font remains in tiny leagleze size underneath the buttons. How about making the text underneath the fonts larger? Dawn Mitch Mackrory wrote: Dawn, This was a Legacy question... Right click on the tool bar

RE: [LegacyUG] Bug in Descendant Chart reports

2007-08-18 Thread Peter Haughton
Thanks Cathy. Big sigh as I started from scratch one change at a time. I found that it does not matter whether you check the Marriage date and place option at all--it has no effect. However, on the Descendant Chart front panel if you choose the Birth or Bap - Death or Burial (two) you will

Re: [LegacyUG] OT but pertinent IMHO

2007-08-18 Thread Mike Fry
Yvonne Murgatroyd wrote: Paul my mail IS set to plain textif it still appears as html then I really dont know what else to do. Yvonne, I think you may be set up to *reply* using the same format as the message that you're responding to. This would be a different setting to that used for

Re: [LegacyUG] Favorite Legacy Tip

2007-08-18 Thread Dave Naylor
Another tip of which many users are likely unaware . . . You can have up to 10 different sources saved for use by the Source Clipboard feature. So after saving your 10 source clipboards, any one can then be selected by right-clicking the blue source triangle. Use the Save button in the

Re: [LegacyUG] Where to put age at death

2007-08-18 Thread Robert Carneal USA
Good idea. However, in the Family View, I can choose which fields I want displayed. in the Ages window, is there a way to do that? I would like to replace Christening with an Event field, if possible. Thank you. Robert Phil Hawkins wrote: Kirstin Martinez wrote: I would also like to see the

RE: [LegacyUG] Favorite Legacy Tip - Linda's template

2007-08-18 Thread Valeris Garton
Could some one please send me Linda's template ? Regards from Valerie in sunny Sydney. Researching: BEDDY, CULLODEN, DYAS and ROWAN in Dublin, Wicklow Wexford -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Janis Gilmore Sent: Saturday, 18 August

Re: [LegacyUG] Where to put age at death

2007-08-18 Thread Mike Fry
Kirstin Martinez wrote: I would also like to see the ages. I get tired of having to constantly calculate them myself, or pull up the calendar function to do it for me. And I like Math! Kirstin, When in the Individuals Information screen, right-click the mouse to the right-hand side of Show

RE: [LegacyUG] OT but pertinent IMHO

2007-08-18 Thread Paul A.
Yvonne, Maybe I responded to the wrong email. Either way, I apologize. -- Paul What a glorious world God Almighty has given us. How thankless and ungrateful we are, and how we labor to mar His gifts. ~ Gen. Robert E. Lee, CSA Paul my mail IS set to plain textif it still appears as html

RE: [LegacyUG] Where to put age at death

2007-08-18 Thread Paul A.
Phil, I learned two new tips today. -- Paul What a glorious world God Almighty has given us. How thankless and ungrateful we are, and how we labor to mar His gifts. ~ Gen. Robert E. Lee, CSA -Original Message- Kirstin Have you tried the Control+A tactic? In most views hitting

RE: [LegacyUG] lumper or splitter

2007-08-18 Thread Christine Pearce
I've been reading all the messages about lumping and splitting, but at the risk of sounding stupid, could someone give me an example - perhaps using a specific examples using data from Ancestry.com and/or a US GenWeb site to illustrate exactly what lumping and splitting is, and how these could

Re: [LegacyUG] Where to put age at death

2007-08-18 Thread Richard Van Wasshnova
Mine always shows, doesn't toggle off. That's the way I like it but just curious about toggling. -- Richard - Original Message - From: Mike Fry [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Saturday, August 18, 2007 3:03 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Where to put age

Re: [LegacyUG] Family Name History

2007-08-18 Thread Karl Plenge
When I have gone back as far as I can or as far as I want to (off shoots that are no longer related) I create one more person and call him ~ Name History, the ~ being the surname of that line. (Example Ellis Name History) There is a similar thing that I do (though slightly different in

Re: [LegacyUG] Favorite Legacy Tip - Linda's template

2007-08-18 Thread Wendy Howard
Hi Valerie, Could some one please send me Linda's template ? At the end of every LUG post is a link to the archives, where you can find the old posts. I used that just now, and searching on: linda template source found the post Linda sent to the group with her template information as the

RE: [LegacyUG] lumper or splitter

2007-08-18 Thread The Eccles Family
Hi Christine, At the moment I call myself a lumper. Please remember that I am also working mainly working with Australian records which may be different to American records. For example I have a master source named New South Wales Birth Certificate, author NSW Registry of Births Deaths and

RE: [LegacyUG] lumper or splitter

2007-08-18 Thread Janis Gilmore
Christine, Lumper or splitter is just a casual terminology used for which approach you take to sourcing. Some people, for instance, would use a master source of 1860 Census, and enter all details somewhere in the source detail screen. At the other extreme, some people (I am among them) actually

Re: [LegacyUG] Favorite Legacy Tip - Linda's template

2007-08-18 Thread Leon Chapman
Valerie: You may want to look at the following Blog on Legacy 7 and notice the part about source templates before you reconfigure all of your sources. http://rzamor1.blogspot.com/2007/08/sneak-peek-of-legacy-7-part-two.html Chap On 8/18/07, Wendy Howard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Valerie,

RE: [LegacyUG] Favorite Legacy Tip - Linda's template

2007-08-18 Thread Valeris Garton
Thank you for your help Linda. I have no idea why not plain text as I have never had a mention of this before. Regards from Valerie in sunny Sydney. Researching: BEDDY, CULLODEN, DYAS and ROWAN in Dublin, Wicklow Wexford -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL

Re: [LegacyUG] Where to put age at death

2007-08-18 Thread Mike Fry
Richard Van Wasshnova wrote: Mine always shows, doesn't toggle off. That's the way I like it but just curious about toggling. You have to use a Right=Click of the mouse on one of the ages. If you hover the mouse over the area, it should give you a tooltip about it. -- Regards, Mike Fry

Re: [LegacyUG] Slowing down of Legacy 6

2007-08-18 Thread Robert Carneal USA
Ed- Support probably asked this already, but how big is your family file? And what else is running while Legacy is running? And how full is your hard drive currently? Those two questions are the first three questions that pop to my mind. Sherry is top at her game- but maybe we can help her

Re: [LegacyUG] icon font size

2007-08-18 Thread Mitch Mackrory
Sorry - the font changes with the Icon size. All I can suggest is move closer to the screen :) Cheers, Mitch On 8/18/07, Dawn Crowley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thank you. That adjusts the size of the buttons, which is helpful. However, the font remains in tiny leagleze size underneath the

Re: [LegacyUG] icon font size

2007-08-18 Thread Robert Carneal USA
Dawn- This may help. I suggested it to for two friends of mine, and both say it works well for them. It is a magnifier, and I noticed when you use it, sometimes graphics are a little out of focus, but you can certainly read all the text quite well. It is a virtual magnifying glass, and works

Re: [LegacyUG] Family Name History

2007-08-18 Thread June McDonald
I hadn't thought of the EOB, but I like that. In the same way, if I have someone who I think could be a family member but as yet am not sure, I enter (in the title suffix box) NCO (Not Confirmed Ours). It is possible they well may be but as yet it is not confirmed. I put in NO (Not Ours) if

Re: [LegacyUG] Slowing down of Legacy 6

2007-08-18 Thread Ed McKie
Robert As you say- all the usual questions have been asked- and nothing comes up. Only 3000 names- not running too many other programmes- and 20 plus gig left on hard drive. And- identical problems on two different computers Worse still I cant seem to download

Re: [LegacyUG] Showing details for primary photographs

2007-08-18 Thread hwedhlor
Leon, All I can say is, Duh! It's as if in moving from one database engine to another I've left behind all the things I learned about the first one. G As soon as I read your comment I recalled that years ago I had begun doing that very thing with the Photograph events in Ancestral Quest,