John,
These are the Legacy defaults, so ,no, they cannot be permanently changed.
Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/
-Original Message-
From: John Magyari
Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 7:51 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Gedcom Exporting Settings are not
John,
By all means use the American four field standard for American locations, but
for other countries use their own formats, normally the way in which they are
written.
Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/
From: John Magyari
Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 7:35 PM
To:
Mike,
Trusting that you mean New South Wales, Australia, I can see that being a
bit of a problem. I can only suggest that for the latter Australia is
added in the name field.
Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/
-Original Message-
From: Mike Fry
Sent: Friday, March 09, 2012 1:00 PM
To:
On 11/03/2012 04:22, Tony Rolfe wrote:
I'm not sure how to record this (or indeed, whether to bother), and am
looking for advice.
The UK Index of wills and probate says something like Fred Smith of
{address} died on {date}, probate {date} to George Smith and Mary Jones,
effects {amount}
Thanks for everyone's ideas.
Some of my Polish time periods use 4 some 5 positions
I decided to force all 5 location positions into 4. Having same number
of fields helps with sorting.
Ideally if would be nice to specify Number of locations field MAX. Then
if entered with less fields specify
On 2012/03/11 13:13, Ron Ferguson wrote:
Trusting that you mean New South Wales, Australia, I can see that being a
bit of a problem. I can only suggest that for the latter Australia is
added in the name field.
Why? Wales is a country!
It also doesn't work for Channel Islands!
If countries
Do you know what the relationship is between Fred Smith and George Smith and
Mary Jones? If so, I would be using the index as a source to record AKAs for
their names and to document that they were still alive at the time of the
event. I would mention that they were the executors of the will
Not only should identical sources not repeat [when they are back to back] but
once you used a short source [subsequent citation] it should continue to use
that short citation even if the details are slightly different. The classic
example is a book.
1st citation [no italics because I am using
Michele, I have done indexing for FreeCEN which is a completely separate index
to that in Ancestry on UK censuses. The approach by both appears to be
different as well, which would lead me to thinking that FamilySearch will have
a different index to Ancestry.
Alan
-Original Message-
I will say that when FamilySearch indexed the 1930, they used the Ancestry
index as Indexer A (you have TWO people index each record and then an
arbitrator intervenes if there is a difference between the two) so they have
collaborated before.
michele
-Original Message-
From: Alan
On 11/03/2012 12:07, John Magyari wrote:
Thanks for everyone's ideas.
Some of my Polish time periods use 4 some 5 positions
I decided to force all 5 location positions into 4. Having same number
of fields helps with sorting.
Ideally if would be nice to specify Number of locations field
https://www.familysearch.org/node/1531
Tim Rosenlof
On 3/11/2012 6:06 AM, Michele Lewis wrote:
I know FamilySearch will be indexing the 1940 census (I am an indexer) but
Ancestry.com will also be indexing. Is this a joint venture between the two
or will there be 2 separate indexes? I figure
You may compare the release issued by familysearch and its two partners
to the one put out by Ancestry. It sounds to me like Ancestry is
planning its own index -
http://corporate.ancestry.com/press/press-releases/2011/08/1940-u.s.-census-to-be-free-on-ancestry.com/
I don't find a more current
Or better still, put the Back-up Icon on the tool bar.
Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/
From: R G Strong-genes
Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2012 8:18 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Prompt to Backup when Closing Legacy
or better yet if you want to make it
On 11/03/2012 14:23, RoadRoy wrote:
I should have added that going to familysearch.org
http://familysearch.org online tells me NFS is not open to the public
yet. If I go to Family Search through Legacy it does not recognize
either my old or new user names and passwords.
Have you followed
Hi,
Any suggestions for good high quality store for printing 22 x 34
_Legacy Chart_ including pictures and a background.? I just moved to a
very small town, however we have a Staples, UPS/Kinkos, or Walmart. I
want very high quality gloss because of the pictures. Possibly some
printer to have one
-Original Message-
From: Mike Fry
Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2012 12:07 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Census List - Rush To Publish
On 2012/03/11 13:13, Ron Ferguson wrote:
Trusting that you mean New South Wales, Australia, I can see that being a
bit of a
I think I misspoke in my earlier message. When looking at the 'View' -
'Master Lists' - 'Source…' - 'edit' - 'Edit Master Source Definition' -
and use the same 'name' for the 'Source List Name' and the 'Title', both
'names' will appear in the same numbered end note of a book - which appeared
Jemima,
Traditionally ibid worked well with basic sources, however, it is not, and
cannot be, applicable to Source Writer Sources, because the latter has a
separate statement for the 2nd appearance of a source. I would think that it
still works for basic sourcing, although I am open to
John,
Please see below,
From: John Magyari
Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2012 12:07 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] How to document Locations in Europe 5 Fields vs 4 Fields
Thanks for everyone's ideas.
Some of my Polish time periods use 4 some 5 positions
I decided to
Michele,
I do not think so, I understand the findmypast.com are also indexing this
census.
Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/
-Original Message-
From: Michele Lewis
Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2012 12:06 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] 1940
I know FamilySearch
That's true Russ but the question was how to get the backup prompt on exit. It
is well known that Legacy sometimes gets error 91 when using the FileBackup
but seems to always work with the backup on exit. Instructions for correcting
error 91 do not resolve the problem. I don't think anyone
On 11/03/2012 14:47, Robert Runion wrote:
Also, I'm still trying to fathom the significance of a 'File ID' when
applied to a Master Source and a 'File ID' as it may relate to a
Detail entry.
I don't think I have ever seen a need to use both the Master File ID and
the Detail ID.
As a rule, my
On 11/03/2012 14:53, RoadRoy wrote:
A member of the general public may register to be given access to the
new FamilySearch program through the registration page. Click here
http://www.familysearch.org/invite/public1 to open the registration page.
But did you follow the instruction to click
Jenny,
Do you think that it might be there for extreme splitters :-)?
Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/
-Original Message-
From: Jenny M Benson
Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2012 3:28 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Ibid. in reports
On 11/03/2012 14:47,
Tim,
How about Legacy?
Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/
From: Tim Rosenlof
Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2012 2:39 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Printing
Hi,
Any suggestions for good high quality store for printing 22 x 34 Legacy Chart
including pictures and a
Archives.com and Find My Past have teamed together with FamilySearch to index
the 1940 census and to keep it free in perpetuity. FamilySearch has pledged
their indexers to have the entire census, all 132+ million people, in six
months. They expect to have the first images available to index
If you sort your location list right to left, they will sort properly, even
with different numbers of fields.
Mary
From: John Magyari [mailto:jmagy...@gmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2012 8:08 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] How to document Locations in
On 2012/03/11 16:41, Ron Ferguson wrote:
I cannot check the Channel Islands, as I have no records from there.
Jersey as a country works! Strange that it's not in the drop-down. The Geo
Database has Jersey as a country. Lack of consistency, methinks!
--
Regards,
Mike Fry
Johannesburg
Legacy
Ron,
Thank you...while I had been actively researching...instead of entering the
data, I had been saving it...didn't realize that I had not entered any of
the data.
As per your suggestion, I entered some new information...closed the file
and VOILA, the prompt to backup popped up!!!
As to the
On 2012/03/11 17:16, Ron Taylor wrote:
That's true Russ but the question was how to get the backup prompt on exit.
It
is well known that Legacy sometimes gets error 91 when using the FileBackup
but
seems to always work with the backup on exit. Instructions for correcting
error
91 do
Ron,
It is a Legacy report ! I am certainly not going to send it to
Millennia. I know their office very well. They don't have the capibility
to print large color high quality charts.
Tim Rosenlof
On 3/11/2012 9:48 AM, Ron Ferguson wrote:
Tim,
How about Legacy?
Ron Ferguson
On 11/03/2012 15:46, Ron Ferguson wrote:
Do you think that it might be there for extreme splitters:-)?
!!
Even so, I don't think they'd need to use both, just one or the other.
--
Jenny M Benson
Legacy User Group guidelines:
http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp
Archived messages
I wonder how they are going to distribute them ? National Archives going
to offer the images to the largest companies for indexing ? And I would
suppose the microfilms will be delivered soon afterward ? The images
being made available to all so we can find our ancestors by their ED ?
Etc
I
Tim,
If it is a Legacy Charting chart, did you not see their publishing link, and
have you not looked at the illustrations which they display. Being in England,
postage rules it out for me; oh, I suspect that they do not do the charts
themselves, possibly for the reason you mention.
Ron
Tim -
The National Archives this time around is digitizing the images and
making them available to anyone who wants them, as I understand it.
(Someone correct me, but the last time around, didn't the companies have
to digitize the images themselves and that created a huge delay as I
remember it.)
In Charting, go to Publish Order Chart. Choose the Photo Glossy paper
type - looks really good.
Thanks,
Geoff Rasmussen
Millennia Corporation
ge...@legacyfamilytree.com
www.LegacyFamilyTree.com http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/
On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 9:06 AM, Tim Rosenlof spa...@xmission.com
Re Robert's comment on whether the Title should be omitted if identical to
Source List Name, that's something that drives me crazy. It's one more
little quirk of Legacy that's easy to forget when making source entries
according to Evidence Explained. I also don't think omitting it solves the
Tim,
The digitized images will be made available to everyone at 9:00 AM April 2,
2012. This includes any company that wants them. The servers may be very slow
at that time, I am not going to get and be at my computer at 6:00 AM my time,
to fight getting a image for where ever.
Check out the
Never mind ! I guess I did not explain what I wanted very well.
Tim Rosenlof
On 3/11/2012 10:35 AM, Geoff Rasmussen wrote:
In Charting, go to Publish Order Chart. Choose the Photo Glossy
paper type - looks really good.
Thanks,
Geoff Rasmussen
Millennia Corporation
From: John Magyari
Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2012 5:34 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] How to document Locations in Europe 5 Fields vs 4 Fields
Ideally I'd like to have some locations with 4 position fields and some with 5
position fields.
He where I'm confused.
Craziness! I tried Paul’s link, entered my old registration info, and got a
message that it was already used by someone (of course). So then I entered a
different name and password (same e-mail address) and FINALLY got in. LUG list
members who are having trouble getting access might try the
Thanks, just got me on new.familysearch.org many thanks G
Eliz
On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 1:52 AM, Paul Gray grayp...@telus.net wrote:
Oops. Sent wrong link. Was trying to shortcut the process. On this page,
follow click here to open the registration page, then sign in (upper right)
and follow
My locations vary from one (England, say) to six or more when dealing with
medieval times in, say, Wales, when I always enter the old kingdom in addition
to the modern shire. Sometimes more than six too when I enter a particular
abbey or monastery because many are buried there, and I can get
On one of my four saved .fdb files ( I keep several copies just in case I screw
up one so bad it needs to be trashed), I changed the data file .fdb to .mdb and
opened it in Access. I then opened 'tblSR' and deleted the column entitled
'SrcTitle', then inserted a blank column and renamed it
I don't agree that just because you have a space between two commas, it
has to imply that something is missing. Sure it can be, but for those
of us who want a very organized approach, it just makes sense because it
does allow one to sort by the various divisions, whenever they apply.
If you can
I'm trying to understand that thinking, Mary. But how could that work
if, for example, you had the following?
Detroit, Michigan, United States
Detroit, Wayne County, Michigan, United States
Michigan, United States
123 Apple Street, Detroit, Wayne County, Michigan, United States
Wayne County,
Jerry and John,
Perhaps one of you would be kind enough to explain the difference, in the
context of searching, of the following two searches:
England, Lancashire, Eccles, Winton
and
England, Lancashire, ,Winton
Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/
-Original Message-
From: Jerry
Jerry,
If a blank between two commas doesn't signify that something is missing,
then it signifies nothing at all. In which case, as you say, it is simply
there to force a correct location into an incorrect location just to make
something look pretty. Frankly I find such constructs both confusing
Examples:Left to Right: Battle of Mynydd Carn, Saint Davids, Deheubarth,
Pembrokeshire, Wales Convento de Santa Clara, Tordesillas, Valladolid,
Castilla y León, Spain Right to Left: Wales, Pembrokeshire, Deheubarth, Saint
Davids, Battle of Mynydd Carn Spain, Castilla y León,
Thanks to everyone who replied. I've now invented a new event, Award of
Probbate which fits the bill nicely.
Regards
Tony
Legacy User Group guidelines:
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Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009:
Hi Ron. I guess it will never be settled unless they come up with some
kind of standard that works for all of us. To me it is ugly to have
dis-similar entities sort with each other, but I was hopeful that
someone who uses the right to left method would tell me how I could
still sort correctly
Not sure what you are looking for, but actually my website does use a
right to left sort automatically because it starts with the COUNTRY,
then goes to the STATES or PROVINCES, then to the COUNTIES, then to the
CITIES or VILLAGES. And Legacy can sort many ways by user choice, as you
know.
In your
On 11/03/2012 21:31, Jerry wrote:
I don't agree that just because you have a space between two commas, it
has to imply that something is missing. Sure it can be, but for those
of us who want a very organized approach, it just makes sense because it
does allow one to sort by the various
It doesn't matter how many fields you have in your locations. Sorting right to
left puts the largest entity first, whatever that may be.
I believe that your location examples below somehow got messed up in your
message. You have multiple occurrences of Michigan and United States in your
Jerry,
My objection, and that of many other British genealogists, is that forcing
out locations to fit a foreign convention gives an inaccurate location. Many
of the leading genealogists over here are finding that they are having to
spend far too much time trying to influence companies and
As far as I know, the way I enter my place names should not give any
genealogists in England any problems finding the locations. I find them
just fine most of the time with Google or Bing maps and I don't know the
locations, of course, as well as you.
But looks like I'm doing Lancashire right.
Hi again Mary. I think you are misunderstanding the whole sorting
system in terms of how most websites do the sorting. It is not simply a
matter of whether you go from the left to right or right to left, it is
how the sorting schemes deal with each division. If you want to see
where I'm coming
Sorry, I stated STATES and PROVINCES, but the provinces will be in their
own list when clicking on CANADA, since they have PROVINCES and the
United States does not.Jerry
On 03/11/2012 07:56 PM, Jerry wrote:
Hi again Mary. I think you are misunderstanding the whole sorting
system in terms
Jerry,
There is NO standard that would work for all of us for all locations. It is
a Master Location List for all locations to be listed together. Perhaps you
would like Millennia to provide a 3-field Master Location List, a 4-field
Master Location List, a 5-field Master Location List, etc.
How true, but some people need to fit everything into square boxes, even if the
shapes are not squares, because otherwise they feel lost. Some need more
structure than others to survive.
CE From: brenze...@roadrunner.com
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] How to
Larry,
I think you are almost correct. It is copying the Event Data onto the
Clipboard, but, if I am correct, not the Source.
Brian, If this is the case then it is a really serious bug and, for me, is a
show stopper.
Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/
-Original Message-
From: Larry
Ron,
In this case it copied nothing. I tried several times pasting into
notepad, and Word. Both were blank. I think it may be a bug thus
wondering if anyone else with this version is having the issue. Don't
want to report it as a bug if it is working correctly for others.
Larry
On Sun, Mar
Very impressive site. Please don't take my question/comment as an insult to
your research or website.
I have one question. Not all places in your lists have 4 fields with commas in
place of missing fields. Why is that?
I also have one comment. I don't think there is anything odder than to
Scott -
I am a happy user of both AniMap and Centennia. The short answers to your
questions are: Is Centennia as detailed as Animap - no. Is it worth its
price - yes.
First, I wish AniMap went to the township level, not just county
(township being smaller political jurisdictions). In many
On 3/11/2012 8:16 PM, Larry Lee wrote:
Anybody else have this issue in Version: 7.5.0.166?
When editing an Event, Â clicking the Icon (bottom right) to copy to
the clipboard does nothing.
Works for me. V7.5.0.166, Win7 Home premium.
--
Gene Young
Researching Young, Harer, Cox Sallada
Larry,
It copies to the Legacy Event Clipboard, not the Windows Clipboard, I would
not, therefore, expect it to paste into another program. Indeed, as it
should copy both the Event Data and the Source Data, I cannot see how it
possibly can.
Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/
-Original
Maybe I am trying to use this incorrectly? If it is copied to the
clipboard it should be able to be pasted into another document like
Notepad etc., correct?
Larry
On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 6:11 PM, Gene Young n2...@cfl.rr.com wrote:
On 3/11/2012 8:16 PM, Larry Lee wrote:
Anybody else have this
Thanks for that Ron. Obviously a misunderstanding on my part.
Larry
On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 6:14 PM, Ron Ferguson
ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk wrote:
Larry,
It copies to the Legacy Event Clipboard, not the Windows Clipboard, I would
not, therefore, expect it to paste into another program.
Yes, I agree that , , , CANADA might look a bit strange, but it is done
because (until more research is done), we only know the person was born
in Canada and we want to keep the sorting of the divisions intact. As
you probably know, Legacy and other programs allow you to omit the
commas when you
On 3/11/2012 9:15 PM, Larry Lee wrote:
Maybe I am trying to use this incorrectly? If it is copied to the
clipboard it should be able to be pasted into another document like
Notepad etc., correct?
Larry
No. It can only paste as an event within Legacy.
--
Gene Young
Researching Young,
My question for Jerry is why do you need a standard? For any given country (or
indeed groups of countries) the sorting R to L will work because within that
country all locations will follow a standard. So if you had a list it might
look like:
England, County, Town, Street
England, Different
What is different about the 'new' site? I have used the site at
familysearch.org for a while now and never registered or signed in. What
would I get access to by registering that I don't get by not registering?
Elizabeth
===
On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 1:16
Gene,
May I ask you to look again, please. Take the following example:
Open an Event for Editing
Copy to the Event Clipboard.
Select Add a New Event
Paste from the Clipboard
Are both the Event Data *and* the Source Data being copied?
On my test the Source Data was not changed from a marriage
Please forget all my previous comments on this subject. I have retested and
it is working as it should.
Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/
-Original Message-
From: Ron Ferguson
Sent: Monday, March 12, 2012 1:40 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Event
I admit I had not thought about it in terms of each country having its
own standard so when you click on a particular country, it would be true
to its own standard. I'll have to run some tests and see if that works
well and get back at ya. Thanks! --Jerry
On 03/11/2012 09:33 PM, Gavin Nicholson
Legacy doesn't print the charts up. They're printed by Generation Maps
in Pleasant Grove, UT.
You can contact them at i...@generationmaps.com or by calling 801-836-6748.
Sincerely,
Sherry
Technical Support
Legacy Family Tree
On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 9:06 AM, Tim Rosenlof spa...@xmission.com
Hi Sherry,
FYI they are now called Family Chartmasters
https://familychartmasters.com/php/index.php
Larry
On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 7:39 PM, Sherry/Support she...@legacyfamilytree.com
wrote:
Legacy doesn't print the charts up. They're printed by Generation Maps
in Pleasant Grove, UT.
You can
I'm nervous about asking a question which has possibly been asked a million
times before but .Is there a UK equivalent to AniMap and Centennia?
Regards
Olwyn
From: jbro...@gmail.com
Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2012 21:02:50 -0400
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Centennia
To:
What is different about the 'new' site? I have used the site at
http://familysearch.org/ familysearch.org for a while now and never
registered or signed in. What would I get access to by registering that
I don't get by not registering?
The site you are looking at is raw data, a place for
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