Re: [LegacyUG] Genealogy Pirates
How is this thread pertinent to the Legacy Users' Group? Mary Young 2009/11/4 William H. Boswell whbosw...@gmail.com: That's the problem I've had with Ancestry.com searches. They'd turn up not only old information I posted to Rootsweb ten years ago, but my same people connected erroneously to their families when I knew they were not. I know many people have good intentions posting their information to internet sites, but there are others who don't. I've had people ask me to correct my data when I had it publicly posted on Rootsweb's FreePages and I said I would if they could validate their data with sources. They would not so I didn't change it because I had accurate sources and/or I knew the people they were connecting to. Others I had given my information with sources to so I could prove their data was wrong and they didn't change it even though I knew for a fact they were not related to my direct line. Now I only work with my distant cousins who had contacted me through my former FreePages website because I had researched their distant lines when nobody else would. It's odd that for all these years there was no information available on these people until I posted it all for free. Now I'm finding it everywhere--information that did not come from the internet but from diaries, bibles, and unpublished records that I found in private collections that aren't available anywhere else. So how did these other people get this information? By the way, since Ancestry.com took over Rootsweb a few years ago they also purchased all of Rootsweb's old trees even ones that were supposed to have been deleted. I found that out about a year ago when I did a search and found an old tree that I specifically had Rootsweb delete and they did, but Ancestry.com must have gotten from old backups and restored. I would only remember this because I had mistakenly entered a comment about an ancestor being a drunk (which he was) and knew I had it deleted because his daughter was still alive and I never intended for that information to go public. So, I wouldn't put a lot of trust in what stays free at Rootsweb. Rootsweb's been around a lot longer than Ancestry.com and it's a shame they bought it out. Ancestry.com has a profit motive while Rootsweb never did. -Original Message- From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com]on Behalf Of Mary Horner Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2009 5:03 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Genealogy Pirates Jenny said 'I really don't care if people want to pirate any data I put on line. ' The problem is Jenny; I was trying to find the connection between Canada and Ireland. There is one person who is very active on the message boards when I do searches for my direct line surname. I have discovered that he pirates others' information and plugs it into his imaginary tree. I worry that he is going to have the data so compromised that if I ever actually get over there to search, the truth will have been lost in the fiction. I see red ever time I find his name on a message board. I know I can't trust his info but what about all the poor people who don't know better? Mary Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Genealogy Pirates
In the File menu you'll find Uploding to Ancestry online family tree. In menu Internet Search Internet for current person Ancestry is the first in the list of Internet searches Evert 2009/11/4 Mary Young m...@cmy.org.uk: How is this thread pertinent to the Legacy Users' Group? Mary Young 2009/11/4 William H. Boswell whbosw...@gmail.com: That's the problem I've had with Ancestry.com searches. They'd turn up not only old information I posted to Rootsweb ten years ago, but my same people connected erroneously to their families when I knew they were not. I know many people have good intentions posting their information to internet sites, but there are others who don't. I've had people ask me to correct my data when I had it publicly posted on Rootsweb's FreePages and I said I would if they could validate their data with sources. They would not so I didn't change it because I had accurate sources and/or I knew the people they were connecting to. Others I had given my information with sources to so I could prove their data was wrong and they didn't change it even though I knew for a fact they were not related to my direct line. Now I only work with my distant cousins who had contacted me through my former FreePages website because I had researched their distant lines when nobody else would. It's odd that for all these years there was no information available on these people until I posted it all for free. Now I'm finding it everywhere--information that did not come from the internet but from diaries, bibles, and unpublished records that I found in private collections that aren't available anywhere else. So how did these other people get this information? By the way, since Ancestry.com took over Rootsweb a few years ago they also purchased all of Rootsweb's old trees even ones that were supposed to have been deleted. I found that out about a year ago when I did a search and found an old tree that I specifically had Rootsweb delete and they did, but Ancestry.com must have gotten from old backups and restored. I would only remember this because I had mistakenly entered a comment about an ancestor being a drunk (which he was) and knew I had it deleted because his daughter was still alive and I never intended for that information to go public. So, I wouldn't put a lot of trust in what stays free at Rootsweb. Rootsweb's been around a lot longer than Ancestry.com and it's a shame they bought it out. Ancestry.com has a profit motive while Rootsweb never did. -Original Message- From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com]on Behalf Of Mary Horner Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2009 5:03 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Genealogy Pirates Jenny said 'I really don't care if people want to pirate any data I put on line. ' The problem is Jenny; I was trying to find the connection between Canada and Ireland. There is one person who is very active on the message boards when I do searches for my direct line surname. I have discovered that he pirates others' information and plugs it into his imaginary tree. I worry that he is going to have the data so compromised that if I ever actually get over there to search, the truth will have been lost in the fiction. I see red ever time I find his name on a message board. I know I can't trust his info but what about all the poor people who don't know better? Mary Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Genealogy Pirates
Sorry, Evert ... but this thread is head Genealogy Pirates and seem to have drifted far from Legacy uploading to Ancestry online family tree. Mary Young 2009/11/4 Evert van Dijken evandij...@gmail.com: In the File menu you'll find Uploding to Ancestry online family tree. In menu Internet Search Internet for current person Ancestry is the first in the list of Internet searches Evert 2009/11/4 Mary Young m...@cmy.org.uk: How is this thread pertinent to the Legacy Users' Group? Mary Young Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Genealogy Pirates
Sorry. thought I sent privately. Rich in LA CA - Original Message From: Mary Young m...@cmy.org.uk To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Wed, November 4, 2009 8:58:20 AM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Genealogy Pirates How is this thread pertinent to the Legacy Users' Group? Mary Young 2009/11/4 William H. Boswell whbosw...@gmail.com: That's the problem I've had with Ancestry.com searches. They'd turn up not only old information I posted to Rootsweb ten years ago, but my same people connected erroneously to their families when I knew they were not. I know many people have good intentions posting their information to internet sites, but there are others who don't. I've had people ask me to correct my data when I had it publicly posted on Rootsweb's FreePages and I said I would if they could validate their data with sources. They would not so I didn't change it because I had accurate sources and/or I knew the people they were connecting to. Others I had given my information with sources to so I could prove their data was wrong and they didn't change it even though I knew for a fact they were not related to my direct line. Now I only work with my distant cousins who had contacted me through my former FreePages website because I had researched their distant lines when nobody else would. It's odd that for all these years there was no information available on these people until I posted it all for free. Now I'm finding it everywhere--information that did not come from the internet but from diaries, bibles, and unpublished records that I found in private collections that aren't available anywhere else. So how did these other people get this information? By the way, since Ancestry.com took over Rootsweb a few years ago they also purchased all of Rootsweb's old trees even ones that were supposed to have been deleted. I found that out about a year ago when I did a search and found an old tree that I specifically had Rootsweb delete and they did, but Ancestry.com must have gotten from old backups and restored. I would only remember this because I had mistakenly entered a comment about an ancestor being a drunk (which he was) and knew I had it deleted because his daughter was still alive and I never intended for that information to go public. So, I wouldn't put a lot of trust in what stays free at Rootsweb. Rootsweb's been around a lot longer than Ancestry.com and it's a shame they bought it out. Ancestry.com has a profit motive while Rootsweb never did. -Original Message- From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com]on Behalf Of Mary Horner Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2009 5:03 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Genealogy Pirates Jenny said 'I really don't care if people want to pirate any data I put on line. ' The problem is Jenny; I was trying to find the connection between Canada and Ireland. There is one person who is very active on the message boards when I do searches for my direct line surname. I have discovered that he pirates others' information and plugs it into his imaginary tree. I worry that he is going to have the data so compromised that if I ever actually get over there to search, the truth will have been lost in the fiction. I see red ever time I find his name on a message board. I know I can't trust his info but what about all the poor people who don't know better? Mary Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Genealogy Pirates
That's the problem I've had with Ancestry.com searches. They'd turn up not only old information I posted to Rootsweb ten years ago, but my same people connected erroneously to their families when I knew they were not. I know many people have good intentions posting their information to internet sites, but there are others who don't. I've had people ask me to correct my data when I had it publicly posted on Rootsweb's FreePages and I said I would if they could validate their data with sources. They would not so I didn't change it because I had accurate sources and/or I knew the people they were connecting to. Others I had given my information with sources to so I could prove their data was wrong and they didn't change it even though I knew for a fact they were not related to my direct line. Now I only work with my distant cousins who had contacted me through my former FreePages website because I had researched their distant lines when nobody else would. It's odd that for all these years there was no information available on these people until I posted it all for free. Now I'm finding it everywhere--information that did not come from the internet but from diaries, bibles, and unpublished records that I found in private collections that aren't available anywhere else. So how did these other people get this information? By the way, since Ancestry.com took over Rootsweb a few years ago they also purchased all of Rootsweb's old trees even ones that were supposed to have been deleted. I found that out about a year ago when I did a search and found an old tree that I specifically had Rootsweb delete and they did, but Ancestry.com must have gotten from old backups and restored. I would only remember this because I had mistakenly entered a comment about an ancestor being a drunk (which he was) and knew I had it deleted because his daughter was still alive and I never intended for that information to go public. So, I wouldn't put a lot of trust in what stays free at Rootsweb. Rootsweb's been around a lot longer than Ancestry.com and it's a shame they bought it out. Ancestry.com has a profit motive while Rootsweb never did. -Original Message- From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com]on Behalf Of Mary Horner Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2009 5:03 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Genealogy Pirates Jenny said 'I really don't care if people want to pirate any data I put on line. ' The problem is Jenny; I was trying to find the connection between Canada and Ireland. There is one person who is very active on the message boards when I do searches for my direct line surname. I have discovered that he pirates others' information and plugs it into his imaginary tree. I worry that he is going to have the data so compromised that if I ever actually get over there to search, the truth will have been lost in the fiction. I see red ever time I find his name on a message board. I know I can't trust his info but what about all the poor people who don't know better? Mary Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Genealogy Pirates
Mary Horner wrote The problem is Jenny; I was trying to find the connection between Canada and Ireland. There is one person who is very active on the message boards when I do searches for my direct line surname. I have discovered that he pirates others' information and plugs it into his imaginary tree. I worry that he is going to have the data so compromised that if I ever actually get over there to search, the truth will have been lost in the fiction. I see red ever time I find his name on a message board. I know I can't trust his info but what about all the poor people who don't know better? I'm sorry, it may sound selfish but I don't consider all the poor people to be my responsibility. It's up to them to do what I did - learn. (But in my own defence, I must point out that anyone who has been around LUG for more than a few days will know that I am very willing to help others learn and that I am still learning myself.) As to truth being lost in the fiction, I don't think it will be. The original records will presumably still be there. In Legacy we have the option to use Surety Levels from 0 to 4 when citing our Sources. If I read a Church Register and see X I'll probably give it a Surety of 4. If you tell me I know X is so because I read the Church Register and I know you and know you are honest and reliable I might give a Surety of 3. If I read on some stranger's website X is so I will give it a Surety of 0 until such time as my researches can corroborate. -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
