Re: [LegacyUG] Gedcoms - asking for a miracle

2024-01-29 Thread jclinx
Oddly enough, that’s how I saw the computer room. The son of old family friends 
worked in Denver for IBM and was in Tucson on business.

 

Jane in Phoenix

 

From: LegacyUserGroup  On Behalf Of 
Ian Macaulay
Sent: Monday, January 29, 2024 4:38 PM
To: Legacy User Group 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Gedcoms - asking for a miracle

 

Ok Well in 1949 I became IBM and have been ever since.   :-)

 

Ian B Macaulay

 

On Sun, Jan 28, 2024 at 8:03 PM mailto:jcl...@cox.net> > wrote:

Oh, yes. Way back (1959) I got to look at the U of A’s computer building. Rooms 
of tape machines. Who knew then what I’d be typing on today.

 

Jane L

 

From: LegacyUserGroup mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com> > On Behalf Of Mary Young
Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2024 5:53 PM
To: Legacy User Group mailto:legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com> >
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Gedcoms - asking for a miracle

 

I miss CCPM. LOL

 

On Fri, 22 Dec 2023, 21:13 , mailto:sarrazingeor...@gmail.com> > wrote:

What about PDP8 (Digital) and programming using wires 

 

De : LegacyUserGroup mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com> > De la part de L S
Envoyé : 22 décembre 2023 15:53
À : Legacy User Group mailto:legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com> >
Objet : Re: [LegacyUG] Gedcoms - asking for a miracle

 

Lol. Sometimes I miss DOS and PLC!

 

On Fri, Dec 22, 2023, 3:48 PM mailto:jcl...@cox.net> > wrote:

Whew! You have been having fun. Thanks for such detail. It was quite a story. 
I, too, have been using a computer since before Windows. Dos was interesting.

 

Jane in Phoenix

 

From: LegacyUserGroup mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com> > On Behalf Of L S
Sent: Friday, December 22, 2023 11:44 AM
To: Legacy User Group mailto:legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com> >
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Gedcoms - asking for a miracle

 

According to their old blog, when MyHeritage purchased Legacy, they created a 
synch feature. 
<https://news.legacyfamilytree.com/legacy_news/2017/08/legacy-family-tree-has-a-new-home-with-myheritage.html>
  
https://news.legacyfamilytree.com/legacy_news/2017/08/legacy-family-tree-has-a-new-home-with-myheritage.html

 

It is NOT POSSIBLE to synch Legacy with Ancestry.com because Legacy is now 
owned by Ancestry's competitor, MyHeritage. RootsMagic is also not able to 
synch with Legacy because they are both competitor software. You can download a 
gedcom from any of those sites and upload the gedcom to any of the other sites 
but it will not synch - so no media will transfer. 

 

You can only synch with Ancestry to RootsMagic or Family Tree Maker. Or, you 
can synch with Legacy to MyHeritage.

 

I can't say any one is better than another. I only used Ancestry.com as my 
primary because that is what I started with after FamilySearch.org, in the late 
1990s, got rid of paf files. By then, I had used a few software programs on 
cartridges for TI-84 computers but none transferred to the internet so I went 
with FamilySearch because it was free. Then they got rid of paf files and I 
once again had to start over. I then used Rootsweb, which Ancestry bought. I 
decided to just pay for Ancestry annually, which is pricey, and keep my tree 
there thinking they would keep being innovative so maybe I wouldn't have to 
keep reinventing my tree. 

 

Then, Ancestry got a little wonky and was up for sale and I got scared that I'd 
lose everything. I purchased Family Tree Maker for the synching with Ancestry. 
Then FTM stopped working. Ancestry blamed FTM and vice versa. I then bought 
RootsMagic to synch and I quit using FTM.  RootsMagic had glitches so I 
decided, when I retired, I would scan everything I had and save by the persons 
noted in what I was scanned (like letters/diaries/divorce docs you can't get 
online, etc.). Lots, but not all, I had already saved to Ancestry's Gallery but 
I wanted everything in one place by the person that I could always access if 
any of the sites closed. I realized that no software was ever going to work 
well permanently. I also was living in Florida and was afraid that I'd lose 
everything in the event of a hurricane. We had already lost everything once but 
it was when we were young and didn't affect the genealogy artifacts. I had so 
much stuff it would have filled our entire car with no room for anything else. 
It took me 6 months of daily scanning to get it all saved. I keep that in 
Dropbox (a cloud) that I pay yearly for the account and in a stand alone hard 
drive. The stand alone hard drive gets updated annually and I give it to one of 
my kids to keep at their house. 

 

All was well until it wasn't! (we moved from Florida so I now don't worry about 
moving the stuff but the next generation will want things digitally so it 
wasn't a waste of time). I decided last January to update my tree on 
MyHeritage. I had gotten a deal on the membership because I am a member of  the 
National Genealogical Society. Then MyHerit

Re: [LegacyUG] Gedcoms - asking for a miracle

2024-01-29 Thread Ian Macaulay
Ok Well in 1949 I became IBM and have been ever since.   :-)

Ian B Macaulay

On Sun, Jan 28, 2024 at 8:03 PM  wrote:

> Oh, yes. Way back (1959) I got to look at the U of A’s computer building.
> Rooms of tape machines. Who knew then what I’d be typing on today.
>
>
>
> Jane L
>
>
>
> *From:* LegacyUserGroup  *On
> Behalf Of *Mary Young
> *Sent:* Sunday, January 28, 2024 5:53 PM
> *To:* Legacy User Group 
> *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Gedcoms - asking for a miracle
>
>
>
> I miss CCPM. LOL
>
>
>
> On Fri, 22 Dec 2023, 21:13 ,  wrote:
>
> What about PDP8 (Digital) and programming using wires 
>
>
>
> *De :* LegacyUserGroup  *De la
> part de* L S
> *Envoyé :* 22 décembre 2023 15:53
> *À :* Legacy User Group 
> *Objet :* Re: [LegacyUG] Gedcoms - asking for a miracle
>
>
>
> Lol. Sometimes I miss DOS and PLC!
>
>
>
> On Fri, Dec 22, 2023, 3:48 PM  wrote:
>
> Whew! You have been having fun. Thanks for such detail. It was quite a
> story. I, too, have been using a computer since before Windows. Dos was
> interesting.
>
>
>
> Jane in Phoenix
>
>
>
> *From:* LegacyUserGroup  *On
> Behalf Of *L S
> *Sent:* Friday, December 22, 2023 11:44 AM
> *To:* Legacy User Group 
> *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Gedcoms - asking for a miracle
>
>
>
> According to their old blog, when MyHeritage purchased Legacy, they
> created a synch feature.
>  
> https://news.legacyfamilytree.com/legacy_news/2017/08/legacy-family-tree-has-a-new-home-with-myheritage.html
> <https://news.legacyfamilytree.com/legacy_news/2017/08/legacy-family-tree-has-a-new-home-with-myheritage.html>
>
>
>
> It is NOT POSSIBLE to synch Legacy with Ancestry.com because Legacy is now
> owned by Ancestry's competitor, MyHeritage. RootsMagic is also not able to
> synch with Legacy because they are both competitor software. You can
> download a gedcom from any of those sites and upload the gedcom to any of
> the other sites but it will not synch - so no media will transfer.
>
>
>
> You can only synch with Ancestry to RootsMagic or Family Tree Maker. Or,
> you can synch with Legacy to MyHeritage.
>
>
>
> I can't say any one is better than another. I only used Ancestry.com as my
> primary because that is what I started with after FamilySearch.org, in the
> late 1990s, got rid of paf files. By then, I had used a few software
> programs on cartridges for TI-84 computers but none transferred to the
> internet so I went with FamilySearch because it was free. Then they got rid
> of paf files and I once again had to start over. I then used Rootsweb,
> which Ancestry bought. I decided to just pay for Ancestry annually, which
> is pricey, and keep my tree there thinking they would keep being innovative
> so maybe I wouldn't have to keep reinventing my tree.
>
>
>
> Then, Ancestry got a little wonky and was up for sale and I got scared
> that I'd lose everything. I purchased Family Tree Maker for the synching
> with Ancestry. Then FTM stopped working. Ancestry blamed FTM and vice
> versa. I then bought RootsMagic to synch and I quit using FTM.  RootsMagic
> had glitches so I decided, when I retired, I would scan everything I had
> and save by the persons noted in what I was scanned (like
> letters/diaries/divorce docs you can't get online, etc.). Lots, but not
> all, I had already saved to Ancestry's Gallery but I wanted everything in
> one place by the person that I could always access if any of the sites
> closed. I realized that no software was ever going to work well
> permanently. I also was living in Florida and was afraid that I'd lose
> everything in the event of a hurricane. We had already lost everything once
> but it was when we were young and didn't affect the genealogy artifacts. I
> had so much stuff it would have filled our entire car with no room for
> anything else. It took me 6 months of daily scanning to get it all saved. I
> keep that in Dropbox (a cloud) that I pay yearly for the account and in a
> stand alone hard drive. The stand alone hard drive gets updated annually
> and I give it to one of my kids to keep at their house.
>
>
>
> All was well until it wasn't! (we moved from Florida so I now don't worry
> about moving the stuff but the next generation will want things digitally
> so it wasn't a waste of time). I decided last January to update my tree on
> MyHeritage. I had gotten a deal on the membership because I am a member of
> the National Genealogical Society. Then MyHeritage offered me a deal for 10
> years which worked out to less than $100/year. I had not had a problem in
> the past with deleting a tree and updating with a new gedcom from Ancestry
> but couldn't do it in January.

Re: [LegacyUG] Gedcoms - asking for a miracle

2024-01-28 Thread jclinx
Oh, yes. Way back (1959) I got to look at the U of A’s computer building. Rooms 
of tape machines. Who knew then what I’d be typing on today.

 

Jane L

 

From: LegacyUserGroup  On Behalf Of 
Mary Young
Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2024 5:53 PM
To: Legacy User Group 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Gedcoms - asking for a miracle

 

I miss CCPM. LOL

 

On Fri, 22 Dec 2023, 21:13 , mailto:sarrazingeor...@gmail.com> > wrote:

What about PDP8 (Digital) and programming using wires 

 

De : LegacyUserGroup mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com> > De la part de L S
Envoyé : 22 décembre 2023 15:53
À : Legacy User Group mailto:legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com> >
Objet : Re: [LegacyUG] Gedcoms - asking for a miracle

 

Lol. Sometimes I miss DOS and PLC!

 

On Fri, Dec 22, 2023, 3:48 PM mailto:jcl...@cox.net> > wrote:

Whew! You have been having fun. Thanks for such detail. It was quite a story. 
I, too, have been using a computer since before Windows. Dos was interesting.

 

Jane in Phoenix

 

From: LegacyUserGroup mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com> > On Behalf Of L S
Sent: Friday, December 22, 2023 11:44 AM
To: Legacy User Group mailto:legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com> >
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Gedcoms - asking for a miracle

 

According to their old blog, when MyHeritage purchased Legacy, they created a 
synch feature. 
<https://news.legacyfamilytree.com/legacy_news/2017/08/legacy-family-tree-has-a-new-home-with-myheritage.html>
  
https://news.legacyfamilytree.com/legacy_news/2017/08/legacy-family-tree-has-a-new-home-with-myheritage.html

 

It is NOT POSSIBLE to synch Legacy with Ancestry.com because Legacy is now 
owned by Ancestry's competitor, MyHeritage. RootsMagic is also not able to 
synch with Legacy because they are both competitor software. You can download a 
gedcom from any of those sites and upload the gedcom to any of the other sites 
but it will not synch - so no media will transfer. 

 

You can only synch with Ancestry to RootsMagic or Family Tree Maker. Or, you 
can synch with Legacy to MyHeritage.

 

I can't say any one is better than another. I only used Ancestry.com as my 
primary because that is what I started with after FamilySearch.org, in the late 
1990s, got rid of paf files. By then, I had used a few software programs on 
cartridges for TI-84 computers but none transferred to the internet so I went 
with FamilySearch because it was free. Then they got rid of paf files and I 
once again had to start over. I then used Rootsweb, which Ancestry bought. I 
decided to just pay for Ancestry annually, which is pricey, and keep my tree 
there thinking they would keep being innovative so maybe I wouldn't have to 
keep reinventing my tree. 

 

Then, Ancestry got a little wonky and was up for sale and I got scared that I'd 
lose everything. I purchased Family Tree Maker for the synching with Ancestry. 
Then FTM stopped working. Ancestry blamed FTM and vice versa. I then bought 
RootsMagic to synch and I quit using FTM.  RootsMagic had glitches so I 
decided, when I retired, I would scan everything I had and save by the persons 
noted in what I was scanned (like letters/diaries/divorce docs you can't get 
online, etc.). Lots, but not all, I had already saved to Ancestry's Gallery but 
I wanted everything in one place by the person that I could always access if 
any of the sites closed. I realized that no software was ever going to work 
well permanently. I also was living in Florida and was afraid that I'd lose 
everything in the event of a hurricane. We had already lost everything once but 
it was when we were young and didn't affect the genealogy artifacts. I had so 
much stuff it would have filled our entire car with no room for anything else. 
It took me 6 months of daily scanning to get it all saved. I keep that in 
Dropbox (a cloud) that I pay yearly for the account and in a stand alone hard 
drive. The stand alone hard drive gets updated annually and I give it to one of 
my kids to keep at their house. 

 

All was well until it wasn't! (we moved from Florida so I now don't worry about 
moving the stuff but the next generation will want things digitally so it 
wasn't a waste of time). I decided last January to update my tree on 
MyHeritage. I had gotten a deal on the membership because I am a member of  the 
National Genealogical Society. Then MyHeritage offered me a deal for 10 years 
which worked out to less than $100/year. I had not had a problem in the past 
with deleting a tree and updating with a new gedcom from Ancestry but couldn't 
do it in January. It wouldn't let me delete the old or add a new one on 
MyHeritage. I decided to wait until after I travelled in April to mess with it 
further. I tried repeatedly in May and then spoke in person in June with David 
Horowitz at a conference I attended. He told me I'd lose all the DNA matches (I 
also had uploaded my DNA from Ancestry and 23andMe) which was fine with me as I 

Re: [LegacyUG] Gedcoms - asking for a miracle

2024-01-28 Thread Mary Young
I miss CCPM. LOL

On Fri, 22 Dec 2023, 21:13 ,  wrote:

> What about PDP8 (Digital) and programming using wires 
>
>
>
> *De :* LegacyUserGroup  *De la
> part de* L S
> *Envoyé :* 22 décembre 2023 15:53
> *À :* Legacy User Group 
> *Objet :* Re: [LegacyUG] Gedcoms - asking for a miracle
>
>
>
> Lol. Sometimes I miss DOS and PLC!
>
>
>
> On Fri, Dec 22, 2023, 3:48 PM  wrote:
>
> Whew! You have been having fun. Thanks for such detail. It was quite a
> story. I, too, have been using a computer since before Windows. Dos was
> interesting.
>
>
>
> Jane in Phoenix
>
>
>
> *From:* LegacyUserGroup  *On
> Behalf Of *L S
> *Sent:* Friday, December 22, 2023 11:44 AM
> *To:* Legacy User Group 
> *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Gedcoms - asking for a miracle
>
>
>
> According to their old blog, when MyHeritage purchased Legacy, they
> created a synch feature.
>  
> https://news.legacyfamilytree.com/legacy_news/2017/08/legacy-family-tree-has-a-new-home-with-myheritage.html
> <https://news.legacyfamilytree.com/legacy_news/2017/08/legacy-family-tree-has-a-new-home-with-myheritage.html>
>
>
>
> It is NOT POSSIBLE to synch Legacy with Ancestry.com because Legacy is now
> owned by Ancestry's competitor, MyHeritage. RootsMagic is also not able to
> synch with Legacy because they are both competitor software. You can
> download a gedcom from any of those sites and upload the gedcom to any of
> the other sites but it will not synch - so no media will transfer.
>
>
>
> You can only synch with Ancestry to RootsMagic or Family Tree Maker. Or,
> you can synch with Legacy to MyHeritage.
>
>
>
> I can't say any one is better than another. I only used Ancestry.com as my
> primary because that is what I started with after FamilySearch.org, in the
> late 1990s, got rid of paf files. By then, I had used a few software
> programs on cartridges for TI-84 computers but none transferred to the
> internet so I went with FamilySearch because it was free. Then they got rid
> of paf files and I once again had to start over. I then used Rootsweb,
> which Ancestry bought. I decided to just pay for Ancestry annually, which
> is pricey, and keep my tree there thinking they would keep being innovative
> so maybe I wouldn't have to keep reinventing my tree.
>
>
>
> Then, Ancestry got a little wonky and was up for sale and I got scared
> that I'd lose everything. I purchased Family Tree Maker for the synching
> with Ancestry. Then FTM stopped working. Ancestry blamed FTM and vice
> versa. I then bought RootsMagic to synch and I quit using FTM.  RootsMagic
> had glitches so I decided, when I retired, I would scan everything I had
> and save by the persons noted in what I was scanned (like
> letters/diaries/divorce docs you can't get online, etc.). Lots, but not
> all, I had already saved to Ancestry's Gallery but I wanted everything in
> one place by the person that I could always access if any of the sites
> closed. I realized that no software was ever going to work well
> permanently. I also was living in Florida and was afraid that I'd lose
> everything in the event of a hurricane. We had already lost everything once
> but it was when we were young and didn't affect the genealogy artifacts. I
> had so much stuff it would have filled our entire car with no room for
> anything else. It took me 6 months of daily scanning to get it all saved. I
> keep that in Dropbox (a cloud) that I pay yearly for the account and in a
> stand alone hard drive. The stand alone hard drive gets updated annually
> and I give it to one of my kids to keep at their house.
>
>
>
> All was well until it wasn't! (we moved from Florida so I now don't worry
> about moving the stuff but the next generation will want things digitally
> so it wasn't a waste of time). I decided last January to update my tree on
> MyHeritage. I had gotten a deal on the membership because I am a member of
> the National Genealogical Society. Then MyHeritage offered me a deal for 10
> years which worked out to less than $100/year. I had not had a problem in
> the past with deleting a tree and updating with a new gedcom from Ancestry
> but couldn't do it in January. It wouldn't let me delete the old or add a
> new one on MyHeritage. I decided to wait until after I travelled in April
> to mess with it further. I tried repeatedly in May and then spoke in person
> in June with David Horowitz at a conference I attended. He told me I'd lose
> all the DNA matches (I also had uploaded my DNA from Ancestry and 23andMe)
> which was fine with me as I figured I would just re upload those, too. He
> was unable to delete my tree. Told me to bring my gedcom on a thumbdrive
> and he'd upload it. He couldn'

Re: [LegacyUG] Gedcoms - asking for a miracle

2023-12-22 Thread sarrazingeorges
What about PDP8 (Digital) and programming using wires 

 

De : LegacyUserGroup  De la part de L S
Envoyé : 22 décembre 2023 15:53
À : Legacy User Group 
Objet : Re: [LegacyUG] Gedcoms - asking for a miracle

 

Lol. Sometimes I miss DOS and PLC!

 

On Fri, Dec 22, 2023, 3:48 PM mailto:jcl...@cox.net> > wrote:

Whew! You have been having fun. Thanks for such detail. It was quite a story. 
I, too, have been using a computer since before Windows. Dos was interesting.

 

Jane in Phoenix

 

From: LegacyUserGroup mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com> > On Behalf Of L S
Sent: Friday, December 22, 2023 11:44 AM
To: Legacy User Group mailto:legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com> >
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Gedcoms - asking for a miracle

 

According to their old blog, when MyHeritage purchased Legacy, they created a 
synch feature. 
<https://news.legacyfamilytree.com/legacy_news/2017/08/legacy-family-tree-has-a-new-home-with-myheritage.html>
  
https://news.legacyfamilytree.com/legacy_news/2017/08/legacy-family-tree-has-a-new-home-with-myheritage.html

 

It is NOT POSSIBLE to synch Legacy with Ancestry.com because Legacy is now 
owned by Ancestry's competitor, MyHeritage. RootsMagic is also not able to 
synch with Legacy because they are both competitor software. You can download a 
gedcom from any of those sites and upload the gedcom to any of the other sites 
but it will not synch - so no media will transfer. 

 

You can only synch with Ancestry to RootsMagic or Family Tree Maker. Or, you 
can synch with Legacy to MyHeritage.

 

I can't say any one is better than another. I only used Ancestry.com as my 
primary because that is what I started with after FamilySearch.org, in the late 
1990s, got rid of paf files. By then, I had used a few software programs on 
cartridges for TI-84 computers but none transferred to the internet so I went 
with FamilySearch because it was free. Then they got rid of paf files and I 
once again had to start over. I then used Rootsweb, which Ancestry bought. I 
decided to just pay for Ancestry annually, which is pricey, and keep my tree 
there thinking they would keep being innovative so maybe I wouldn't have to 
keep reinventing my tree. 

 

Then, Ancestry got a little wonky and was up for sale and I got scared that I'd 
lose everything. I purchased Family Tree Maker for the synching with Ancestry. 
Then FTM stopped working. Ancestry blamed FTM and vice versa. I then bought 
RootsMagic to synch and I quit using FTM.  RootsMagic had glitches so I 
decided, when I retired, I would scan everything I had and save by the persons 
noted in what I was scanned (like letters/diaries/divorce docs you can't get 
online, etc.). Lots, but not all, I had already saved to Ancestry's Gallery but 
I wanted everything in one place by the person that I could always access if 
any of the sites closed. I realized that no software was ever going to work 
well permanently. I also was living in Florida and was afraid that I'd lose 
everything in the event of a hurricane. We had already lost everything once but 
it was when we were young and didn't affect the genealogy artifacts. I had so 
much stuff it would have filled our entire car with no room for anything else. 
It took me 6 months of daily scanning to get it all saved. I keep that in 
Dropbox (a cloud) that I pay yearly for the account and in a stand alone hard 
drive. The stand alone hard drive gets updated annually and I give it to one of 
my kids to keep at their house. 

 

All was well until it wasn't! (we moved from Florida so I now don't worry about 
moving the stuff but the next generation will want things digitally so it 
wasn't a waste of time). I decided last January to update my tree on 
MyHeritage. I had gotten a deal on the membership because I am a member of  the 
National Genealogical Society. Then MyHeritage offered me a deal for 10 years 
which worked out to less than $100/year. I had not had a problem in the past 
with deleting a tree and updating with a new gedcom from Ancestry but couldn't 
do it in January. It wouldn't let me delete the old or add a new one on 
MyHeritage. I decided to wait until after I travelled in April to mess with it 
further. I tried repeatedly in May and then spoke in person in June with David 
Horowitz at a conference I attended. He told me I'd lose all the DNA matches (I 
also had uploaded my DNA from Ancestry and 23andMe) which was fine with me as I 
figured I would just re upload those, too. He was unable to delete my tree. 
Told me to bring my gedcom on a thumbdrive and he'd upload it. He couldn't do 
it. I gave him permission to copy my gedcom and take it to IT. By August, I 
hadn't heard anything from anyone at MyHeritage so I wrote to him. He forwarded 
my concern to someone in IT who deleted my tree and told me to use Family Tree 
Builder to upload but it didn't work. We went round and round and then he gave 
me to someone else who didn't read any of the email

Re: [LegacyUG] Gedcoms - asking for a miracle

2023-12-22 Thread L S
Lol. Sometimes I miss DOS and PLC!

On Fri, Dec 22, 2023, 3:48 PM  wrote:

> Whew! You have been having fun. Thanks for such detail. It was quite a
> story. I, too, have been using a computer since before Windows. Dos was
> interesting.
>
>
>
> Jane in Phoenix
>
>
>
> *From:* LegacyUserGroup  *On
> Behalf Of *L S
> *Sent:* Friday, December 22, 2023 11:44 AM
> *To:* Legacy User Group 
> *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Gedcoms - asking for a miracle
>
>
>
> According to their old blog, when MyHeritage purchased Legacy, they
> created a synch feature.
>  
> https://news.legacyfamilytree.com/legacy_news/2017/08/legacy-family-tree-has-a-new-home-with-myheritage.html
> <https://news.legacyfamilytree.com/legacy_news/2017/08/legacy-family-tree-has-a-new-home-with-myheritage.html>
>
>
>
> It is NOT POSSIBLE to synch Legacy with Ancestry.com because Legacy is now
> owned by Ancestry's competitor, MyHeritage. RootsMagic is also not able to
> synch with Legacy because they are both competitor software. You can
> download a gedcom from any of those sites and upload the gedcom to any of
> the other sites but it will not synch - so no media will transfer.
>
>
>
> You can only synch with Ancestry to RootsMagic or Family Tree Maker. Or,
> you can synch with Legacy to MyHeritage.
>
>
>
> I can't say any one is better than another. I only used Ancestry.com as my
> primary because that is what I started with after FamilySearch.org, in the
> late 1990s, got rid of paf files. By then, I had used a few software
> programs on cartridges for TI-84 computers but none transferred to the
> internet so I went with FamilySearch because it was free. Then they got rid
> of paf files and I once again had to start over. I then used Rootsweb,
> which Ancestry bought. I decided to just pay for Ancestry annually, which
> is pricey, and keep my tree there thinking they would keep being innovative
> so maybe I wouldn't have to keep reinventing my tree.
>
>
>
> Then, Ancestry got a little wonky and was up for sale and I got scared
> that I'd lose everything. I purchased Family Tree Maker for the synching
> with Ancestry. Then FTM stopped working. Ancestry blamed FTM and vice
> versa. I then bought RootsMagic to synch and I quit using FTM.  RootsMagic
> had glitches so I decided, when I retired, I would scan everything I had
> and save by the persons noted in what I was scanned (like
> letters/diaries/divorce docs you can't get online, etc.). Lots, but not
> all, I had already saved to Ancestry's Gallery but I wanted everything in
> one place by the person that I could always access if any of the sites
> closed. I realized that no software was ever going to work well
> permanently. I also was living in Florida and was afraid that I'd lose
> everything in the event of a hurricane. We had already lost everything once
> but it was when we were young and didn't affect the genealogy artifacts. I
> had so much stuff it would have filled our entire car with no room for
> anything else. It took me 6 months of daily scanning to get it all saved. I
> keep that in Dropbox (a cloud) that I pay yearly for the account and in a
> stand alone hard drive. The stand alone hard drive gets updated annually
> and I give it to one of my kids to keep at their house.
>
>
>
> All was well until it wasn't! (we moved from Florida so I now don't worry
> about moving the stuff but the next generation will want things digitally
> so it wasn't a waste of time). I decided last January to update my tree on
> MyHeritage. I had gotten a deal on the membership because I am a member of
> the National Genealogical Society. Then MyHeritage offered me a deal for 10
> years which worked out to less than $100/year. I had not had a problem in
> the past with deleting a tree and updating with a new gedcom from Ancestry
> but couldn't do it in January. It wouldn't let me delete the old or add a
> new one on MyHeritage. I decided to wait until after I travelled in April
> to mess with it further. I tried repeatedly in May and then spoke in person
> in June with David Horowitz at a conference I attended. He told me I'd lose
> all the DNA matches (I also had uploaded my DNA from Ancestry and 23andMe)
> which was fine with me as I figured I would just re upload those, too. He
> was unable to delete my tree. Told me to bring my gedcom on a thumbdrive
> and he'd upload it. He couldn't do it. I gave him permission to copy my
> gedcom and take it to IT. By August, I hadn't heard anything from anyone at
> MyHeritage so I wrote to him. He forwarded my concern to someone in IT who
> deleted my tree and told me to use Family Tree Builder to upload but it
> didn't work. We went round and round and then he gave me to someone else

Re: [LegacyUG] Gedcoms - asking for a miracle

2023-12-22 Thread jclinx
Whew! You have been having fun. Thanks for such detail. It was quite a story. 
I, too, have been using a computer since before Windows. Dos was interesting.

 

Jane in Phoenix

 

From: LegacyUserGroup  On Behalf Of L S
Sent: Friday, December 22, 2023 11:44 AM
To: Legacy User Group 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Gedcoms - asking for a miracle

 

According to their old blog, when MyHeritage purchased Legacy, they created a 
synch feature. 
<https://news.legacyfamilytree.com/legacy_news/2017/08/legacy-family-tree-has-a-new-home-with-myheritage.html>
  
https://news.legacyfamilytree.com/legacy_news/2017/08/legacy-family-tree-has-a-new-home-with-myheritage.html

 

It is NOT POSSIBLE to synch Legacy with Ancestry.com because Legacy is now 
owned by Ancestry's competitor, MyHeritage. RootsMagic is also not able to 
synch with Legacy because they are both competitor software. You can download a 
gedcom from any of those sites and upload the gedcom to any of the other sites 
but it will not synch - so no media will transfer. 

 

You can only synch with Ancestry to RootsMagic or Family Tree Maker. Or, you 
can synch with Legacy to MyHeritage.

 

I can't say any one is better than another. I only used Ancestry.com as my 
primary because that is what I started with after FamilySearch.org, in the late 
1990s, got rid of paf files. By then, I had used a few software programs on 
cartridges for TI-84 computers but none transferred to the internet so I went 
with FamilySearch because it was free. Then they got rid of paf files and I 
once again had to start over. I then used Rootsweb, which Ancestry bought. I 
decided to just pay for Ancestry annually, which is pricey, and keep my tree 
there thinking they would keep being innovative so maybe I wouldn't have to 
keep reinventing my tree. 

 

Then, Ancestry got a little wonky and was up for sale and I got scared that I'd 
lose everything. I purchased Family Tree Maker for the synching with Ancestry. 
Then FTM stopped working. Ancestry blamed FTM and vice versa. I then bought 
RootsMagic to synch and I quit using FTM.  RootsMagic had glitches so I 
decided, when I retired, I would scan everything I had and save by the persons 
noted in what I was scanned (like letters/diaries/divorce docs you can't get 
online, etc.). Lots, but not all, I had already saved to Ancestry's Gallery but 
I wanted everything in one place by the person that I could always access if 
any of the sites closed. I realized that no software was ever going to work 
well permanently. I also was living in Florida and was afraid that I'd lose 
everything in the event of a hurricane. We had already lost everything once but 
it was when we were young and didn't affect the genealogy artifacts. I had so 
much stuff it would have filled our entire car with no room for anything else. 
It took me 6 months of daily scanning to get it all saved. I keep that in 
Dropbox (a cloud) that I pay yearly for the account and in a stand alone hard 
drive. The stand alone hard drive gets updated annually and I give it to one of 
my kids to keep at their house. 

 

All was well until it wasn't! (we moved from Florida so I now don't worry about 
moving the stuff but the next generation will want things digitally so it 
wasn't a waste of time). I decided last January to update my tree on 
MyHeritage. I had gotten a deal on the membership because I am a member of  the 
National Genealogical Society. Then MyHeritage offered me a deal for 10 years 
which worked out to less than $100/year. I had not had a problem in the past 
with deleting a tree and updating with a new gedcom from Ancestry but couldn't 
do it in January. It wouldn't let me delete the old or add a new one on 
MyHeritage. I decided to wait until after I travelled in April to mess with it 
further. I tried repeatedly in May and then spoke in person in June with David 
Horowitz at a conference I attended. He told me I'd lose all the DNA matches (I 
also had uploaded my DNA from Ancestry and 23andMe) which was fine with me as I 
figured I would just re upload those, too. He was unable to delete my tree. 
Told me to bring my gedcom on a thumbdrive and he'd upload it. He couldn't do 
it. I gave him permission to copy my gedcom and take it to IT. By August, I 
hadn't heard anything from anyone at MyHeritage so I wrote to him. He forwarded 
my concern to someone in IT who deleted my tree and told me to use Family Tree 
Builder to upload but it didn't work. We went round and round and then he gave 
me to someone else who didn't read any of the email chain and told me to do 
what I'd already tried multiple times. I got an attitude and then I got pawned 
off on another IT person who again tried to tell me to do what had already been 
tried. That's when I asked if I could just send them my gedcom (Have no idea 
what David Horowitz did with the one I gave him in June). That IT guy sent me a 
special link to send it to them. Then, he wrote that there was a p

Re: [LegacyUG] Gedcoms - asking for a miracle

2023-12-22 Thread L S
According to their old blog, when MyHeritage purchased Legacy, they created
a synch feature.
 
https://news.legacyfamilytree.com/legacy_news/2017/08/legacy-family-tree-has-a-new-home-with-myheritage.html


It is NOT POSSIBLE to synch Legacy with Ancestry.com because Legacy is now
owned by Ancestry's competitor, MyHeritage. RootsMagic is also not able to
synch with Legacy because they are both competitor software. You can
download a gedcom from any of those sites and upload the gedcom to any of
the other sites but it will not synch - so no media will transfer.

You can only synch with Ancestry to RootsMagic or Family Tree Maker. Or,
you can synch with Legacy to MyHeritage.

I can't say any one is better than another. I only used Ancestry.com as my
primary because that is what I started with after FamilySearch.org, in the
late 1990s, got rid of paf files. By then, I had used a few software
programs on cartridges for TI-84 computers but none transferred to the
internet so I went with FamilySearch because it was free. Then they got rid
of paf files and I once again had to start over. I then used Rootsweb,
which Ancestry bought. I decided to just pay for Ancestry annually, which
is pricey, and keep my tree there thinking they would keep being innovative
so maybe I wouldn't have to keep reinventing my tree.

Then, Ancestry got a little wonky and was up for sale and I got scared that
I'd lose everything. I purchased Family Tree Maker for the synching with
Ancestry. Then FTM stopped working. Ancestry blamed FTM and vice versa. I
then bought RootsMagic to synch and I quit using FTM.  RootsMagic had
glitches so I decided, when I retired, I would scan everything I had and
save by the persons noted in what I was scanned (like
letters/diaries/divorce docs you can't get online, etc.). Lots, but not
all, I had already saved to Ancestry's Gallery but I wanted everything in
one place by the person that I could always access if any of the sites
closed. I realized that no software was ever going to work well
permanently. I also was living in Florida and was afraid that I'd lose
everything in the event of a hurricane. We had already lost everything once
but it was when we were young and didn't affect the genealogy artifacts. I
had so much stuff it would have filled our entire car with no room for
anything else. It took me 6 months of daily scanning to get it all saved. I
keep that in Dropbox (a cloud) that I pay yearly for the account and in a
stand alone hard drive. The stand alone hard drive gets updated annually
and I give it to one of my kids to keep at their house.

All was well until it wasn't! (we moved from Florida so I now don't worry
about moving the stuff but the next generation will want things digitally
so it wasn't a waste of time). I decided last January to update my tree on
MyHeritage. I had gotten a deal on the membership because I am a member of
the National Genealogical Society. Then MyHeritage offered me a deal for 10
years which worked out to less than $100/year. I had not had a problem in
the past with deleting a tree and updating with a new gedcom from Ancestry
but couldn't do it in January. It wouldn't let me delete the old or add a
new one on MyHeritage. I decided to wait until after I travelled in April
to mess with it further. I tried repeatedly in May and then spoke in person
in June with David Horowitz at a conference I attended. He told me I'd lose
all the DNA matches (I also had uploaded my DNA from Ancestry and 23andMe)
which was fine with me as I figured I would just re upload those, too. He
was unable to delete my tree. Told me to bring my gedcom on a thumbdrive
and he'd upload it. He couldn't do it. I gave him permission to copy my
gedcom and take it to IT. By August, I hadn't heard anything from anyone at
MyHeritage so I wrote to him. He forwarded my concern to someone in IT who
deleted my tree and told me to use Family Tree Builder to upload but it
didn't work. We went round and round and then he gave me to someone else
who didn't read any of the email chain and told me to do what I'd already
tried multiple times. I got an attitude and then I got pawned off on
another IT person who again tried to tell me to do what had already been
tried. That's when I asked if I could just send them my gedcom (Have no
idea what David Horowitz did with the one I gave him in June). That IT guy
sent me a special link to send it to them. Then, he wrote that there was a
problem with it and they couldn't get it to load. What was really strange
was when I would go on to MyHeritage my DNA matches were still showing,
with no tree associated with it. I thought maybe it was picking it up from
Family Tree Builder so I deleted that. No, the IT guy said the DNA matches
stay permanently. That was not what Daniel Horowitz said nor an email I got
from another IT person.

I really don't think they know what is 

Re: [LegacyUG] Gedcoms - asking for a miracle

2023-12-22 Thread Gloria DeSousa
Thank you Lori! Are you saying that I could synch Legacy to myheritage.com?
Is syncing from Legacy possible with Ancestry.com or Roots Magic? If
there's a synch option in Legacy, I can't find it. I use only Legacy and
myheritage.com for my genealogy, and have no experience with Roots Magic. I
have an Ancestry account but don't use it. Are any of these other sites
better for syncing? Forgive me if I'm not asking the right questions. What
Cloud service do you use?

Thanks again,
Gloria

On Thu, Dec 21, 2023 at 6:19 PM Lori Samuelson 
wrote:

> A gedcom can transfer the data. A synch transfers the media. I use the
> following to maintain my years of work which has individuals close to the
> number in your treeI use Ancestry.com as my main place to save both
> data and media. I synch to RootsMagic and Family TreeMaker. I do that
> because the programs offer different options and if one stops working I
> have the backup of the other. This has happened in the past and I don't
> want to go through that again. I can save a gedcom from Ancestry.com and
> upload to Legacy, which I also use, since there is no synch option. It took
> me 10 months and way too much time with MyHeritage's IT Department to get
> that gedcom working on their site. I like MyHeritage  but I don't like
> their Family Tree Builder which has a known bug. Even so, I was told
> several times by MyHeritage to just follow the directions to use Family
> Tree Builder. Finally, I requested that I upload my gedcom to IT and have
> them do it. They agreed and then said there was a problem with the gedcom.
> Odd that none of the other software companies had issues with it. So, I
> asked for my money back. Within a week they were able to get the gedcom
> uploaded. Amazing, right?! Since I don't update the MyHeritage tree, in the
> past, I'd just delete the old tree and then upload the newer gedcom every
> year or so. Never had a problem until this past January. Took until October
> for them to figure it out. I wouldn't have been persistent over this if I
> didn't find it useful to connect with my eastern European family who uses
> it. I also save to a stand alone hard drive and Cloud. Paranoia works when
> trying to preserve your hard work.
>
>
> On December 21, 2023, at 5:27 PM, Gloria DeSousa 
> wrote:
>
>
> Hi,
>
> I know from asking this group many years ago that media is not uploaded
> with gedcoms. I've asked myheritage.com is there any way of using all the
> work I've done with numerous certificates and photos for most if not all
> individuals in my 60,000 and growing tree, to be uploaded without their
> cumbersome one-by-one loading of media? I was told to upload my Legacy 9
> software to their FamilyTreeMaker, and that it would transfer the media as
> I have it in each individual's Media Gallery. I didn't spend more than 5
> seconds to see that it didn't work. The first thing that jumped out is that
> I am married when I have marked in the Marriage Box the line that says "No
> Evidence that this couple ever married". Is there a way to change that? I'd
> rather it say "This couple didn't marry".
>
> So I'm asking for a miracle - Is there a way that I can share what I have
> in Legacy 9 with others besides the tree with no media on myheritage? Or is
> there some wiz out there that would love to develop the necessary software?
>
> Best to all,
> Gloria
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Re: [LegacyUG] Gedcoms - asking for a miracle

2023-12-21 Thread Lori Samuelson
A gedcom can transfer the data. A synch transfers the media. I use the 
following to maintain my years of work which has individuals close to the 
number in your treeI use Ancestry.com as my main place to save both data 
and media. I synch to RootsMagic and Family TreeMaker. I do that because the 
programs offer different options and if one stops working I have the backup of 
the other. This has happened in the past and I don't want to go through that 
again. I can save a gedcom from Ancestry.com and upload to Legacy, which I also 
use, since there is no synch option. It took me 10 months and way too much time 
with MyHeritage's IT Department to get that gedcom working on their site. I 
like MyHeritage  but I don't like their Family Tree Builder which has a known 
bug. Even so, I was told several times by MyHeritage to just follow the 
directions to use Family Tree Builder. Finally, I requested that I upload my 
gedcom to IT and have them do it. They agreed and then said there was a problem 
with the gedcom. Odd that none of the other software companies had issues with 
it. So, I asked for my money back. Within a week they were able to get the 
gedcom uploaded. Amazing, right?! Since I don't update the MyHeritage tree, in 
the past, I'd just delete the old tree and then upload the newer gedcom every 
year or so. Never had a problem until this past January. Took until October for 
them to figure it out. I wouldn't have been persistent over this if I didn't 
find it useful to connect with my eastern European family who uses it. I also 
save to a stand alone hard drive and Cloud. Paranoia works when trying to 
preserve your hard work.

On December 21, 2023, at 5:27 PM, Gloria DeSousa  wrote:

Hi,


I know from asking this group many years ago that media is not uploaded with 
gedcoms. I've asked myheritage.com is there any way of using all the work I've 
done with numerous certificates and photos for most if not all individuals in 
my 60,000 and growing tree, to be uploaded without their cumbersome one-by-one 
loading of media? I was told to upload my Legacy 9 software to their 
FamilyTreeMaker, and that it would transfer the media as I have it in each 
individual's Media Gallery. I didn't spend more than 5 seconds to see that it 
didn't work. The first thing that jumped out is that I am married when I have 
marked in the Marriage Box the line that says "No Evidence that this couple 
ever married". Is there a way to change that? I'd rather it say "This couple 
didn't marry".


So I'm asking for a miracle - Is there a way that I can share what I have in 
Legacy 9 with others besides the tree with no media on myheritage? Or is there 
some wiz out there that would love to develop the necessary software?


Best to all,

Gloria 

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