Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [OSM-talk] License to kill

2009-03-06 Thread Peter Miller
On 6 Mar 2009, at 11:07, 80n wrote: On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 9:54 AM, graham gra...@theseamans.net wrote: Frederik Ramm wrote: I believe the Foundation intends to give a vote *only* to those who were members in good standing as of January 23rd so your few days had better be 40-ish if

[OSM-legal-talk] Are Produced Works anti-share alike?

2009-03-06 Thread Peter Miller
On 6 Mar 2009, at 16:11, 80n wrote: I may have got this all wrong but it seems to me that Produced Works are potentially compatible with most licenses, but are not compatible with most share alike licenses. I hope this isn't right and that someone can explain the flaws in my

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Are Produced Works anti-share alike?

2009-03-06 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Richard Fairhurst wrote: there are three things that spring to mind I meant four (no-one expects the Spanish Inquisition, etc.). 4. OSMF can request additional permissions over and above ODbL from its users, as part of the new user sign-up, or the licence change agreement. (Effectively

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Are Produced Works anti-share alike?

2009-03-06 Thread Rob Myers
On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 4:51 PM, Richard Fairhurst rich...@systemed.net wrote: 1. Creative Commons licences define Work (which you're quoting in the case of 4a) as the copyrightable work of authorship offered under the terms of this License (1e). I.e., as we know by now, CC-BY-SA is defined and

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Are Produced Works anti-share alike?

2009-03-06 Thread Andy Allan
I don't think we want to provide a bypass for the reverse engineering clause, so much as ensure that it can be an SA produced work plus no reverse engineering combined. Cheers, Andy Who should be out on his bike mapping Dolgellau instead of reading legal-talk on holiday... On 6 Mar

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] CC-BY-SA and T+Cs

2009-03-06 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, Richard Fairhurst wrote: Very often CC-BY-SA items will be conveyed with contractual restrictions: Andy A cited the other day that the cycle map has its own Ts Cs, for example. So has CloudMade; they say that you may access their site solely for your personal use. It is an interesting

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] CC-BY-SA and T+Cs

2009-03-06 Thread Simon Ward
On Fri, Mar 06, 2009 at 08:15:23PM +0100, Frederik Ramm wrote: Richard Fairhurst wrote: Very often CC-BY-SA items will be conveyed with contractual restrictions: Andy A cited the other day that the cycle map has its own Ts Cs, for example. So has CloudMade; they say that you may access

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Todays (thurs) license working group call

2009-03-06 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, SteveC wrote: We also want to get a bunch of questions answered from a legal PoV and to that end we'd like your help in pulling together things from the use cases and open issues in to a concise list to be emailed. Peter, Matt and others have done an excellent job at cleaning up