Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Multiple license declaration

2011-06-29 Thread TimSC
I moved the multiple licensing site out of beta. You cannot not revoke licenses once they are accepted. I hope it will be useful. http://timsc.dev.openstreetmap.org/extralicenses/ Tim ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] CTs are not full copyright assignment

2011-06-27 Thread TimSC
On 27/06/11 09:12, Olaf Schmidt-Wischhöfer wrote: I appreciate the fact that you work with TimSC. I look forward to being able to read the page http://timsc.dev.openstreetmap.org/extralicenses/ (I do not want to click Decline at the moment, because I am still undecided, and reading this page

[OSM-legal-talk] Multiple license declaration

2011-06-26 Thread TimSC
for ideas for improvements of the legal issues. Any thoughts? TimSC ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] data derived from UK Ordnace Survey

2011-06-16 Thread TimSC
do not include any obligation for OSMF to ensure future licences have an attribution clause, and *that* is the problem I'm trying to highlight TimSC [1]http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-gb/2011-April/011458.html ___ legal-talk mailing list

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Private negotiations

2011-06-08 Thread TimSC
a feeling I will be accused of being cryptic. I have tried to explain my actions as best as I can. Regards, TimSC [1] https://docs.google.com/View?id=dd9g3qjp_119fr26kqdz ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org http

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] OS Opendata amp; the new license

2010-10-01 Thread TimSC
to OSMF having a mandate? TimSC ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] OS Opendata the new license

2010-10-01 Thread TimSC
for that duty? The OSMF just assuming powers is what is at the core of the question of mandate. TimSC ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] OS Opendata the new license

2010-10-01 Thread TimSC
On 01/10/10 13:43, Richard Fairhurst wrote: TimSC wrote: It may be possible to argue that OSMF did try to engage the community. Rather than me try to make the case, it's more fun seeing what justifications people are trying to use on the mailing list! Seriously? Seriously

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] OS Opendata amp; the new license

2010-09-29 Thread TimSC
: April 2010. ... as if OS Opendata was the only data that was imported or traced into OSM... TimSC ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Noise vs unanswered questions

2010-09-02 Thread TimSC
you don't waste your time responding. And I am trying to engage OSMF using official channels on this issue too [2], but that debate has not attracted much interest yet. TimSC [1] http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/legal-talk/2010-September/004431.html [2] http://lists.openstreetmap.org

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] ODbL, CTs and tracing GPS tracks

2010-08-18 Thread TimSC
Assuming GPS tracks have some legal protection in some legal jurisdictions, does anyone care to take a stab at answering my original question? :) TimSC ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] ODbL, CTs and tracing GPS tracks

2010-08-17 Thread TimSC
investment in obtaining the data, don't database rights come into play? TimSC ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Two questions to LWG

2010-08-11 Thread TimSC
on using the existing contributor term document [2], can you answer my question on allowed licensing of produced works, as stated in my previous email? Regards, TimSC [1] https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/terms [2] https://docs.google.com/View?id=dd9g3qjp_76gwvhpcx3 On 27/07/10 20:25, Grant

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] PD declaration non binding?

2010-07-25 Thread TimSC
upgrade? For reasons I have already stated, I am anti-ODbL. But my support will be pragmatic, depending on the likely outcome of support or refusal. TimSC ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] License Cut-over and critical mass

2010-07-24 Thread TimSC
On 24/07/10 16:49, SteveC wrote: Glad to see you've combined http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarcasm with http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem Steve That's ad hominem tu quoque. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem#Ad_hominem_tu_quoque TimSC

[OSM-legal-talk] PD declaration non binding?

2010-07-23 Thread TimSC
? Perhaps some clarification would improve the situation. TimSC ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] PD declaration non binding?

2010-07-23 Thread TimSC
. TimSC ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk

[OSM-legal-talk] Relicensing, PD, leverage and petitions

2010-07-18 Thread TimSC
wondered if anyone had thoughts on this? TimSC PS The background to my views is partly summarized here: http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/legal-talk/2010-July/003523.html ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org http

[OSM-legal-talk] License Cut-over and critical mass

2010-07-16 Thread TimSC
- 150,000 people each with a veto is not a community, it's a recipe for nothing to change. If that were true, the OBdL licensing would definitely fail. TimSC ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org

[OSM-legal-talk] License Cut-over and critical mass

2010-07-16 Thread TimSC
the question might ask in a poll is far from obvious. TimSC ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk

[OSM-legal-talk] Compatible licenses

2010-07-16 Thread TimSC
-BY by Ordnance Survey. Brian That is my interpretation as well. I already raised this issue with the LWG. The good news is this saves me having to worry about the relicensing if I must say no because of a legal issue. TimSC ___ legal-talk mailing list legal

[OSM-legal-talk] License Cut-over and critical mass

2010-07-15 Thread TimSC
Commons agrees with me). Of course, it would not be as comprehensive as an SA-licensed OSM, but it would be more legally predictable. Rant concluded! TimSC ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo

[OSM-legal-talk] Viral can be nice

2010-04-22 Thread TimSC
Frederik Ramm wrote: / OSM is not essentially anything at its core. It is different things to // different people. / I'm talking about the sentence that defines OSM at the top of our Wiki page, which in all likelihood has been there in this form when most of us signed up. As if that

[OSM-legal-talk] viral attribution and ODbL

2010-04-20 Thread TimSC
Frederik Ramm wrote: TimSC wrote: / What is the point in paragraph 4.3, if it can be easily side stepped? / We have a well working culture of attribution in science, where you usually quote the source you took something from, but not the source behind the source behind the source. Yes

[OSM-legal-talk] viral attribution and ODbL

2010-04-20 Thread TimSC
be a problem. (See the second last paragraph of http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/legal-talk/2010-April/003294.html ) Does anyone in the LWG have a view on that issue? Regards, TimSC ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org

[OSM-legal-talk] multiple editor touches to objects, transition plan concern

2009-12-06 Thread TimSC
. :) After Monday, comments to the wiki please, unless this concern has been well and truly put to rest. TimSC === Impact on Transitioning to ODbL If Significant Minority No Vote === A concern with the implementation plan, not ODbL. As I see it, there are two separate issues: * Is OBdL acceptable

[OSM-legal-talk] OS Copyright Notice and Year

2009-03-20 Thread TimSC
might advise to play it safe on legal issues, but there is always a possibility someone (not necessarily me) will start tracing maps with ambiguous copyright status. A solution is to resolve this issue head on. Is it possible to get professional legal advice on this? Regards, TimSC [1] http