Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Substantial meaning

2009-04-25 Thread Mike Collinson
I've tried to capture all the comments made with some strawman wording below. Please feel free to cast arrows at it. I've also copied it to http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Open_Data_Licence/Use_Cases#What_constitutes_a_Substantial_extract I am not happy that I have captured 2 properly. I

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Substantial meaning

2009-04-25 Thread Liz
On Fri, 24 Apr 2009, SteveC wrote: Has there been any discussion on what people here feel 'substantial' means in the context of the definitions of the ODbL? I've banged around the wiki looking but might might have missed it. Here's the first important bit relevant to this in the ODbL:

[OSM-legal-talk] Substantial meaning

2009-04-24 Thread Peter Miller
On 23 Apr 2009, at 19:42, SteveC wrote: Has there been any discussion on what people here feel 'substantial' means in the context of the definitions of the ODbL? I've banged around the wiki looking but might might have missed it. Here's the first important bit relevant to this in the ODbL:

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Substantial meaning

2009-04-24 Thread Mike Collinson
At 00:34 24/04/2009, Frederik Ramm wrote: SteveC wrote: Has there been any discussion on what people here feel 'substantial' means in the context of the definitions of the ODbL? I've banged around the wiki looking but might might have missed it. It hasn't been discussed a lot. I guess you

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Substantial meaning

2009-04-24 Thread Jukka Rahkonen
SteveC st...@... writes: Which I believe follows the language of the EU database directive. Basically, what do we feel substantial means when someone takes some part of the data? How much is 'substantial'? I won't frame the question further as I can see a number of ways and we, the license

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Substantial meaning

2009-04-23 Thread Russ Nelson
On Apr 23, 2009, at 2:42 PM, SteveC wrote: Has there been any discussion on what people here feel 'substantial' means in the context of the definitions of the ODbL? It's definitely substantial if somebody extracts something matching a single criteria, e.g. an entire state, an entire

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Substantial meaning

2009-04-23 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, Iván Sánchez Ortega wrote: If the extraction needs an automated tool, then it is substantial. Uh. This means that even the answer to the question what is the name of the street at lat=12.345 lon=45.789 would be a substantial extract because you cannot possibly peer through the XML to find

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Substantial meaning

2009-04-23 Thread Iván Sánchez Ortega
El Jueves, 23 de Abril de 2009, Frederik Ramm escribió: Iván Sánchez Ortega wrote: If the extraction needs an automated tool, then it is substantial. Uh. This means that even the answer to the question what is the name of the street at lat=12.345 lon=45.789 would be a substantial extract