Richard Fairhurst wrote:
Tordanik wrote:
I see that the ODbL fits your particular use case nicely. But as
you acknowledge, things look different for people with other
use cases. I expect that I'm one of those people whose favourite
use cases won't benefit from ODbL - quite the opposite, in
On 27/07/11 16:43, Tobias Knerr wrote:
And why the hurry?
If this is a hurry I'd hate to see stalling. :-)
- Rob.
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Ed Avis wrote:
Interesting slip... of course I meant to say 'contacting'...
:)
So are there cases where people are thumbing their nose at the licence,
but somehow if we used ODbL they would fall into line?
Couldn't tell you that without reading their minds! I honestly don't know
how many
On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 1:01 PM, Richard Fairhurst rich...@systemed.netwrote:
Rather, it's this: in the absence of enforcement, good guys will comply
with
the licence voluntarily, and bad guys won't.
In the absence of enforcement they good guys will comply with the license if
they can. If
Richard Fairhurst wrote:
I'm a good guy, I'd hope; I've given years of my life to OSM, and
contributed a lot to the community (hardcore JOSM users may see fit to
disagree ;) ). Despite that OSM offers nothing to me, because CC-BY-SA's
share-alike clause is defined in relation to creative
Tordanik wrote:
I see that the ODbL fits your particular use case nicely. But as
you acknowledge, things look different for people with other
use cases. I expect that I'm one of those people whose favourite
use cases won't benefit from ODbL - quite the opposite, in fact.
I can certainly
Cool, thanks for responding Ed. Look forward to the results.
Steve
On 7/25/2011 3:17 PM, Ed Avis wrote:
Steve Coaststeve@... writes:
Therefore I think it's going to require you to release the full
instructions too. I'm guessing it's an email thread?
For the UK, yes. For the US I have done
Tobias Knerr osm@... writes:
* Inadequate protection *
CC-BY-SA might not work for data. OSM data is not currently abused in
a manner that threatens the project, and that might never even happen.
Nevertheless, it seems wise to make sure that we can either prevent this
or at least react when it
Yes, super interesting. Can we see the instructions and know the names of the
firms (basically, are they an IP specific firm or big enough to have an IP
speciality?)
We could also run a donation drive to cover the costs if that would help?
Steve
On Jul 24, 2011, at 11:00 AM, M∡rtin
Richard Fairhurst wrote:
Most of what you've said reads, to me, like an argument for licensing OSM
under a non-sharealike licence - either true public domain or
attribution-only.
True. Similar arguments, taken to a more fundamental level, can be used
to argue for more liberal licenses.
Tordanik wrote:
Currently, we offer reasonable terms to good guys. Bad guys might
be able to squeeze out a bit more in some jurisdictions if they can
live with bad press and severed community ties.
That doesn't happen a lot, though - as far as I can tell - and the
possibility just doesn't
I apologize in advance for distracting everyone's attention from mapping
and other pleasures with a long mail about licenses. However, I have
begun to seriously doubt the decision to choose ODbL as the one future
OSM license, and believe we should have another look at the license that
will
Tobias,
thank you for writing this. It seems you are speaking from the hearts of
many people.
thanks,
mike
On Sat, Jul 23, 2011 at 6:11 PM, Tobias Knerr o...@tobias-knerr.de wrote:
I apologize in advance for distracting everyone's attention from mapping
and other pleasures with a long mail
On Sat, Jul 23, 2011 at 5:11 PM, Tobias Knerr o...@tobias-knerr.de wrote:
I apologize in advance for distracting everyone's attention from mapping
and other pleasures with a long mail about licenses. However, I have
begun to seriously doubt the decision to choose ODbL as the one future
OSM
On 24 July 2011 02:11, Tobias Knerr o...@tobias-knerr.de wrote:
So do I suggest to stop the license change process? No, I don't. The
Contributor Terms will solve many problems on their own, so my
suggestion is what could be labelled CT + CC-BY-SA.
This will cause similar/same problems as
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