Just found this:
http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/3Qw
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On 23.06.2014 09:02, Andreas Goss wrote:
http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/3Qw
likely unintended upload. Should be reverted. Did you contact the user
already?
note=This data has been extracted from a Western Power database and
should not be uploaded to the OSM database.
Stephan
Steve Coast steve@... writes:
But that’s not what we’re talking about. We’re speaking here about
the simple ask, that if you use OSM you please say clearly on the map
that it is OSM. You’re getting a great dataset, for free, under an open
license, that millions of people are contributing
Am 03.05.2014 10:26, schrieb Jukka Rahkonen:
And by looking at the list of Top
users editing over the past in [1], imports has nowadays a huge importance
for the project - I was here, sitting in my own armchair. I did this import.
Since I'm with the project I
and other legal discussions.
Onderwerp: [OSM-legal-talk] Attribution
http://stevecoast.com/2014/04/28/attribution-is-it-time-to-name-and-sham
e/
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OpenStreetMap http://osm.org/ is the global, open and free map
dataset that anyone can use. It is created by a huge community of
volunteers
Tobias, please study the guidelines, they address exactly this problem.
Simon
Am 30.04.2014 12:18, schrieb Tobias Knerr:
.
But we have to judge a license based on its actual effects, not the
original intention. What annoys me, for example, is when we require
people to publish data that
+1 I know of a few sites who have not responded to my email. what is
the next step?
Jonathan
http://bigfatfrog67.me
On 30/04/2014 00:34, Simon Poole wrote:
Just a reminder, this thread started of with a discussion of
attribution, or rather lack of such. I don't think there is very much
On 28.04.2014 23:34, Kai Krueger wrote:
I would say we can all agree on that for the majority of the community
giving data back when you fix things is the spirit of the share-a-like
license of OSM.
Even as a supporter of more liberal licensing, this is a spirit I could
pretty much get behind.
Just a reminder, this thread started of with a discussion of
attribution, or rather lack of such
Doesn't help that the original post conflates the issues :p
On Tuesday, April 29, 2014, Simon Poole si...@poole.ch wrote:
Just a reminder, this thread started of with a discussion of
On 30/04/14 03:18 AM, Tobias Knerr wrote:
But we have to judge a license based on its actual effects, not the
original intention. What annoys me, for example, is when we require
people to publish data that we wouldn't even want if they offered it.
The users of the data may want it. The
On 30.04.2014 19:37, Rob Myers wrote:
On 30/04/14 03:18 AM, Tobias Knerr wrote:
But we have to judge a license based on its actual effects, not the
original intention. What annoys me, for example, is when we require
people to publish data that we wouldn't even want if they offered it.
The
On 30/04/14 02:35 PM, Tobias Knerr wrote:
I think there is quite a bit of data that will, with high likelihood,
never be of use to anyone. That's especially true for byproducts of the
creation of a produced work.
It's been of use to at least one person. The person who created the
produced
On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 1:08 PM, Simon Poole si...@poole.ch wrote:
There are some moderate complicated edge cases caused by and there are
some things that will not be possible with share alike and are not intended
to be possible in the first place.
The problem is the gap between what is
On Tue, Apr 29, 2014 at 12:56 PM, Luis Villa lvi...@wikimedia.org wrote:
[ ... ]
But it is a reality that [ fear of a Share Alike obligation(?)]* slows,
or in some cases stops, adoption of/contribution to OSM.
Slows contribution to OpenStreetMap? That sounds incorrect to me.
ODbL and
Am 29.04.2014 18:56, schrieb Luis Villa:
.
Without commenting on/endorsing Alex's position, suffice to say that the
vast majority of lawyers I've talked with about the license, including
many with long experience in open software licenses, find the license
difficult to interpret.
Just a reminder, this thread started of with a discussion of
attribution, or rather lack of such. I don't think there is very much
doubt about what the licence requires even given all the complexity of
the ODbL, for a produced work it is:
However, if you Publicly Use a Produced Work, You must
http://stevecoast.com/2014/04/28/attribution-is-it-time-to-name-and-shame/
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OpenStreetMap is the global, open and free map dataset that anyone can use. It
is created by a huge community of volunteers who pour their time and energy in
to the project. It’s also fun, beautiful and cool.
So it’s
On 28/04/14 11:42 AM, Steve Coast wrote:
In a narrow way, this all a good thing. It shows the growth and maturity
of the project, that there are those out there that want to own it or
take all the advantages without even saying where the data came from.
But in the end, we have to defend
or giving data back when you fix things.
This is a gross oversimplification of share-alike. And the imperfections in
the license extend beyond geocoding. I don't want to rehash the arguments,
as Alex Barth did http://stateofthemap.us/session/more-open/ very
eloquently at State of the Map US.
On Apr 28, 2014, at 1:26 PM, Jake Wasserman jwasser...@gmail.com wrote:
Let's just not pretend the requirements are simple, tiny, or little,
but are instead complex and sweeping.
My comparison was to proprietary vendors. Have you ever read one of their
contracts?
In any case, I agree
There are some moderate complicated edge cases caused by and there are
some things that will not be possible with share alike and are not
intended to be possible in the first place.
Naturally anybody is completely within its rights to lobby for changes
that would better fit their business
I couldn't agree more.
Jonathan
http://bigfatfrog67.me
On 28/04/2014 19:42, Steve Coast wrote:
http://stevecoast.com/2014/04/28/attribution-is-it-time-to-name-and-shame/
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OpenStreetMap http://osm.org/ is the global, open and free map
dataset that anyone can use. It is created by a huge
Further I note there was 0 (zero) response to the proposed updated community
guidelines that
go a long way in clarifying a number of the grey areas, indicating that the
whole upset is not
about fixing real issues.
Simon, first i've heard about this. Can you point to where it's posted
Steve,
Agreed on a transparent process for tracking unattributed applications of
OpenStreetMap.
Separate from attribution however, the issue with “share-alike” is that
it's not open, and hurting our community. ODbL's share alike is simply
shutting out OpenStreetMap from many use cases = adoption
On 17/02/14 11:33 PM, Paul Norman wrote:
Many of the companies failing to meet attribution requirements are using
OpenStreetMap data for the majority of their map data, and sometimes have
no attribution at all. The OpenStreetMap requirements are less onerous than
alternative commercial
is about how difficult it is for some people
to give away something and get nothing in return.
Regards, Gert Gremmen, BSc
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The thing is that for us, for OpenStreetMap, the attribution is our
Am 13.01.2014 13:17, schrieb Jonathan Harley:
.
given that the OSM attribution is given equal prominence with their
own Terms and their imagery attribution. (By the way, Alex and Eric
from MapBox are members of this mailing list.) Surely should be given
equal prominence with the map
Am 14/gen/2014 um 10:54 schrieb Simon Poole si...@poole.ch:
a IMHO good
example of what we want http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/contact/spaces/
no mention of ODbL and the attribution three screens after the map (on mobile,
maybe this looks different on a desktop)?
cheers,
Martin
I don't actually get a map (tested with three different mobile
browsers), now I don't think we want to take our requirements so far
that we want OSM attribution on everything :-)
Am 14.01.2014 12:38, schrieb Martin Koppenhoefer:
Am 14/gen/2014 um 10:54 schrieb Simon Poole si...@poole.ch:
a
Am 14.01.2014 14:28, schrieb Martin Koppenhoefer:
2014/1/14 Simon Poole si...@poole.ch mailto:si...@poole.ch
I don't actually get a map (tested with three different mobile
browsers), now I don't think we want to take our requirements so
far that we want OSM attribution on
t: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 3:12 PMTo: Martin Koppenhoefer; Licensing and other legal discussions.Reply To: Licensing and other legal discussions.Subject: Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Attribution Requirements
Am 14.01.2014 14:28, schrieb Martin
Ko
On 10/01/14 12:01, Simon Poole wrote:
Am 10.01.2014 07:15, schrieb Clifford Snow:
I like the Mapbox solution the author mentions of putting a box on
the map to take you to another page. I realize that unless the user
clicks on the link, they will never discover that OSM contributed to
Jonathan,
On 13.01.2014 13:17, Jonathan Harley wrote:
What would happen if every data source started mandating
that our attribution must be in the corner?
The thing is that for us, for OpenStreetMap, the attribution is our main
remuneration. We give our data away for free but in return, we
On 13.01.2014 18:06, Frederik Ramm wrote:
Jonathan,
On 13.01.2014 13:17, Jonathan Harley wrote:
What would happen if every data source started mandating
that our attribution must be in the corner?
The thing is that for us, for OpenStreetMap, the attribution is our main
remuneration. We give
Hi,
On 13.01.2014 22:52, Stephan Knauss wrote:
As long as other map suppliers like Google and
Bing are happy by being only credited on a separate page,
Are they?
Bye
Frederik
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On 13.01.2014 23:41, Frederik Ramm wrote:
On 13.01.2014 22:52, Stephan Knauss wrote:
As long as other map suppliers like Google and
Bing are happy by being only credited on a separate page,
Are they?
No idea. Do their terms allow to use the tiles directly without using
their own JS-API which
Am 10/gen/2014 um 13:01 schrieb Simon Poole si...@poole.ch:
And I'm very tired of people trying to weasel around the absolute minimal
requirements we pose on reuse of OSM data.
like APPL?
;-)
cheers,
Martin
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Apple does not, as far as we know, use OSM data ODbL licensed by the
foundation.
Simon
Am 12.01.2014 13:06, schrieb Martin Koppenhoefer:
Am 10/gen/2014 um 13:01 schrieb Simon Poole si...@poole.ch:
And I'm very tired of people trying to weasel around the absolute minimal
requirements we
2014/1/12 Simon Poole si...@poole.ch
Apple does not, as far as we know, use OSM data ODbL licensed by the
foundation.
yes, they are supposedly ignoring former requirements (still valid for
older data).
cheers,
Martin
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Simon Poole simon@... writes:
Am 10.01.2014 07:15, schrieb Clifford Snow:
I
like the Mapbox solution the author mentions of putting a box
on the map to take you to another page. I realize that unless
the user clicks on the link, they will never
That are not the last board minutes as you know, there are:
http://wiki.osmfoundation.org/wiki/Board_Meeting_Minutes_2013-12-10
Am 11.01.2014 10:07, schrieb Jukka Rahkonen:
Simon Poole simon@... writes:
Am 10.01.2014 07:15, schrieb Clifford Snow:
I
like the Mapbox
Simon Poole simon@... writes:
That are not the last board minutes as you know, there are:
http://wiki.osmfoundation.org/wiki/Board_Meeting_Minutes_2013-12-10
It is not my pleasure to ask stupid questions but I had a black out even you
clearly wrote See the last board minutes. I
Am 10.01.2014 07:15, schrieb Clifford Snow:
I like the Mapbox solution the author mentions of putting a box on the
map to take you to another page. I realize that unless the user clicks
on the link, they will never discover that OSM contributed to this
product. Since OSM may be only one of
I received a message from Tableau Software. First a little info about
Tableau Software and OSM. Tableau Software is a user of OSM data,
contributor and has sponsored OSM events. Because of the size of the
message blow is a link to the text of the message. [1] I've summarized
their questions
I wonder if we have a strategy how to deal with companies who use our data
but don't attribute in the right way or don't adhere to the license terms.
In the past we had Apple (still unsolved, at least since April 2012) and
Microsoft (using military areas from OSM to blur their imagery), now there
2010/9/23 Jukka Rahkonen jukka.rahko...@latuviitta.fi:
What is hard is to give attribution and show the license. Of course I can
add Access constraints element to the service metadata
ows:AccessConstraintsData from OSM, license
CC-BY-SA/ows:AccessConstraints
I'd say that is satisfying
Hi,
It is easy to deliver OSM vector data through WFS service as gml
http://188.64.1.61/cgi-bin/tinyows?service=wfsversion=1.1.0request=getfeaturetypename=osm_polygonmaxfeatures=20
or as json if gml does not feel comfortable
On 19 Sep 2009, at 04:38, Paul Johnson wrote:
On Wed, 2009-09-16 at 23:19 -0500,
tele...@hushmail.com wrote:
My question is what type of attribution is appropriate? I have no
problem informing my end-users where I get the data. More than
happy to do that. However, do I need to attribute
On 9/19/09, Peter Miller peter.mil...@itoworld.com wrote:
On 19 Sep 2009, at 04:38, Paul Johnson wrote:
On Wed, 2009-09-16 at 23:19 -0500,
tele...@hushmail.com wrote:
My question is what type of attribution is appropriate? I have no
problem informing my end-users where I get the data. More
On Wed, 2009-09-16 at 23:19 -0500,
tele...@hushmail.com wrote:
My question is what type of attribution is appropriate? I have no
problem informing my end-users where I get the data. More than
happy to do that. However, do I need to attribute while the
application is used on-air? Screen
Hi,
tele...@hushmail.com wrote:
My question is what type of attribution is appropriate?
We had a huge discussion about this 2.5 years ago but not a lot has
changed since, so you might want to read the thread with the misleading
subject OSM Layer into Adobe Illustrator,
Hi,
Frederik Ramm schrieb:
where a guy from a TV broadcaster inquired about using the Baghdad map
on-air.
That guy was me :-)
We never used the map in the end - we're a news broadcaster so didn't have time
to thrash through the legalities on that day.
I think I'm speaking for the majority
2009/9/17 Barnett, Phillip phillip.barn...@itn.co.uk
Although it's just occurred to me that Microsoft license their data from
someone else (TeleAtlas?) so I'm surprised they get the onscreen credit,
rather than the original supplier.
Navteq for Microsoft.
Emilie Laffray
On 9/17/09, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote:
Hi,
tele...@hushmail.com wrote:
My question is what type of attribution is appropriate?
I think I'm speaking for the majority of contributors when I say that
having the credits in the credits roll at the end of a TV production is
On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 4:15 PM, Frederik Ramm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
if I offer processed OSM data on my web site for others to use under
CC-BY-SA: Whom do the others have to give attribution? I usually expect
everyone to retain the OpenStreetMap contributors message and leave me
(or my
On Mon, Apr 07, 2008 at 05:28:37PM +0100, Gervase Markham wrote:
The shorter, the better (sometimes space is limited). So why not, with a
small DNS change:
openstreetmap.org/credit
If we have to attribute at all (I wanna PD map!) I'd prefer the
main website to have a link to
Up to now there has not been any official guidance on how to comply with the
attribution clause of our CC-BY-SA license. This means that people either
try to do something that they hope is acceptable or they do nothing. Some
of OSM's own outputs fall into the latter category (for example, the
On Mon, Apr 07, 2008 at 01:19:15PM +0100, 80n wrote:
If you publish OpenStreetMap data you can satisfy the attribution
requirement of the license by linking to or referencing
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Attribution;
Discuss.
+1.
cu bart
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Up to now there has not been any official guidance on how to comply with the
attribution clause of our CC-BY-SA license. This means that people either
try to do something that they hope is acceptable or they do nothing. Some
of
Hallo,
I'd like to propose that we make the following statement:
If you publish OpenStreetMap data you can satisfy the attribution
requirement of the license by linking to or referencing
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Attribution;
But you are aware of the fact that it
Quoting Michael Collinson [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
I echo Tom's sentiment that www.openstreetmap.org/Attribution would be
a cleaner public link to present if possible.
You can request under BY-SA 2.0 that a URL be presented with the work.
See BY-SA 2.0 section 4.c:
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Mon, Apr 7, 2008 at 1:40 PM, Tom Hughes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I would certainly prefer that people using our data provide a link
to www.openstreetmap.org or the top level wiki index page as that
would do a better job of
Michael Collinson wrote:
Other than that, well, I think we both share the same opinion that
the current license is just unworkable full stop! :-)
There's probably not a lot of point making a big song and dance about
attribution at present. In a month or two's time, when we're ready to
vote
On Mon, Apr 7, 2008 at 1:47 PM, Frederik Ramm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hallo,
I'd like to propose that we make the following statement:
If you publish OpenStreetMap data you can satisfy the attribution
requirement of the license by linking to or referencing
quote who=80n
I would prefer a url like attribution.openstreetmap.org or
www.openstreetmap.org/attribution but it should still, IMHO, point to the
same wiki page.
I agree with www.openstreetma.org/attribution ; however, I don't think
that wikifying the attribution would be a good idea.
Michael Collinson wrote:
I echo Tom's sentiment that www.openstreetmap.org/Attribution
http://www.openstreetmap.org/Attribution would be a cleaner public
link to present if possible.
The shorter, the better (sometimes space is limited). So why not, with a
small DNS change:
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