Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Licensing Working Group report, 2009/01/22

2009-01-25 Thread Richard Fairhurst
andrzej zaborowski wrote: Also a different question is bothering me. The old license is the well known CC-BY-SA, so it is automatically compatible with sources (and consumers) using the same license. So, say I've uploaded a lot of information based on wikipedia, conscious that I'm

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Licensing Working Group report, 2009/01/22

2009-01-25 Thread Rob Myers
andrzej zaborowski wrote: Also a different question is bothering me. The old license is the well known CC-BY-SA, so it is automatically compatible with sources (and consumers) using the same license. So, say I've uploaded a lot of information based on wikipedia, conscious that I'm uploading

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Licensing Working Group report, 2009/01/22

2009-01-25 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, Richard Fairhurst wrote: By all means have an optional _poll_ beforehand among people who care. If 75% of participants in such a (public) poll say cool, let's go ahead with this license then I'd say it's ok to start offering it to mappers. If 75% say I think this needs some more work

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Licensing Working Group report, 2009/01/22

2009-01-25 Thread Rob Myers
Peter Miller wrote: I suggest that a decision made on the basis of a vote if preferable to one made on the basis of who shouts loudest and is also better than one made 'be decree' (which is what I think is being considered at present). Frederik's email of 16.40 covers what I would like

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Licensing Working Group report, 2009/01/22

2009-01-25 Thread Rob Myers
Rob Myers wrote: Peter Miller wrote: I suggest that a decision made on the basis of a vote if preferable to one made on the basis of who shouts loudest and is also better than one made 'be decree' (which is what I think is being considered at present). Frederik's email of 16.40

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Licensing Working Group report, 2009/01/22

2009-01-25 Thread andrzej zaborowski
2009/1/25 Richard Fairhurst rich...@systemed.net: andrzej zaborowski wrote: Also a different question is bothering me. The old license is the well known CC-BY-SA, so it is automatically compatible with sources (and consumers) using the same license. So, say I've uploaded a lot of

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Licensing Working Group report, 2009/01/22

2009-01-24 Thread Peter Miller
On 24 Jan 2009, at 15:27, Rob Myers wrote: Peter Miller wrote: Without a public vote the board are effectively saying to each and every one of use individually: 'accept these new terms or please leave the community now and don't slam the door - oh, and we will remove your data shortly'.

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Licensing Working Group report, 2009/01/22

2009-01-23 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
Frederik Ramm wrote: Sent: 22 January 2009 11:10 PM To: Licensing and other legal discussions. Subject: Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Licensing Working Group report, 2009/01/22 Hi, Mikel Maron wrote: We want to move ahead with this draft of the license asap. The license won't be perfect

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Licensing Working Group report, 2009/01/22

2009-01-23 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, thank you for making the December minutes available. From them I see that you're already having your next meeting today. Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists) wrote: The licence doesn't get implemented if the vote is against its implementation. If that were to happen then the licence would

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Licensing Working Group report, 2009/01/22

2009-01-23 Thread Peter Miller
-talk] Licensing Working Group report, 2009/01/22 On 22 Jan 2009, at 23:05, andrzej zaborowski wrote: 2009/1/22 Mikel Maron mikel_ma...@yahoo.com: Hi Fredrik Will they be available to process our input after we see the text? Is there any plan for how our feedback will be processed before

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Licensing Working Group report, 2009/01/22

2009-01-23 Thread Peter Miller
On 24 Jan 2009, at 00:25, Frederik Ramm wrote: Hi, thank you for making the December minutes available. From them I see that you're already having your next meeting today. Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists) wrote: The licence doesn't get implemented if the vote is against its

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Licensing Working Group report, 2009/01/22

2009-01-22 Thread Mikel Maron
Hi Fredrik Will they be available to process our input after we see the text? Is there any plan for how our feedback will be processed before the public is asked to accept the new license - will it be *our* job to take the lawyers' version and our feedback and make something suitable from

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Licensing Working Group report, 2009/01/22

2009-01-22 Thread andrzej zaborowski
2009/1/22 Mikel Maron mikel_ma...@yahoo.com: Hi Fredrik Will they be available to process our input after we see the text? Is there any plan for how our feedback will be processed before the public is asked to accept the new license - will it be *our* job to take the lawyers' version and

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Licensing Working Group report, 2009/01/22

2009-01-22 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, Mikel Maron wrote: We want to move ahead with this draft of the license asap. The license won't be perfect, but there will definitely be a process for feedback and improvements, and the license will get there. In the immediate term, the OSM community kick starts this process by

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Licensing Working Group report, 2009/01/22

2009-01-22 Thread Peter Miller
On 22 Jan 2009, at 23:05, andrzej zaborowski wrote: 2009/1/22 Mikel Maron mikel_ma...@yahoo.com: Hi Fredrik Will they be available to process our input after we see the text? Is there any plan for how our feedback will be processed before the public is asked to accept the new license -