Re: [OSM-legal-talk] ODbL, CTs and tracing GPS tracks

2010-08-18 Thread TimSC
Assuming GPS tracks have some legal protection in some legal jurisdictions, does anyone care to take a stab at answering my original question? :) TimSC ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] ODbL, CTs and tracing GPS tracks

2010-08-18 Thread Ed Avis
1. While a GPS track recorded 'by accident' while you're doing something else could be considered mere fact, if you expressly go out on a mapping trip and choose which streets to walk down and which to omit, there is some creative element. (I know that I walk in careful patterns to make

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] ODbL, CTs and tracing GPS tracks

2010-08-18 Thread davespod
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Re: [OSM-legal-talk] ODbL, CTs and tracing GPS tracks

2010-08-17 Thread Jukka Rahkonen
TimSC mapp...@... writes: Hi all, Apologies if this has been raised before, but I was wondering about GPS track data and licenses. Presumably we are using public GPS trace data under CC-BY-SA. By the way, it would be helpful to clarify that on the wiki. I'll ignore the problem of

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] ODbL, CTs and tracing GPS tracks

2010-08-17 Thread TimSC
On 17/08/10 08:58, Jukka Rahkonen wrote I have understood that uploaded GPS track logs that we have now are effectively public domain. They are facts (even they do not allways tell the truth) and they miss all the creativity so they are not copyrightable. Since there was substantial

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] ODbL, CTs and tracing GPS tracks

2010-08-17 Thread Peter Millar
For some of us, our tracks a works of art; at least artful. Certainly, Jeremy Wood thinks so: http://www.gpsdrawing.com/maps/traverse-me/prints.html -- Peter Millar (sherbourne) - 80n 80n...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 8:58 AM, Jukka Rahkonen jukka.rahko...@latuviitta.fi

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] ODbL, CTs and tracing GPS tracks

2010-08-17 Thread Jukka Rahkonen
80n 80n...@... writes: Jukka Rahkonen wrote: I have understood that uploaded GPS track logs that we have now are effectively public domain. They are facts (even they do not allways tell the truth) and they miss all the creativity so they are not copyrightable. Is this a correct

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] ODbL, CTs and tracing GPS tracks

2010-08-17 Thread Eugene Alvin Villar
On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 5:54 PM, 80n 80n...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 8:58 AM, Jukka Rahkonen jukka.rahko...@latuviitta.fi wrote: TimSC mapp...@... writes: Hi all, Apologies if this has been raised before, but I was wondering about GPS track data and licenses.

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] ODbL, CTs and tracing GPS tracks

2010-08-17 Thread Rob Myers
On 08/17/2010 05:35 PM, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote: 2010/8/17 Eugene Alvin Villarsea...@gmail.com: It's no more or less factual than recording temperature and other meteorological data at a weather station. IMHO it is not comparable at all, because we don't turn simply the gps on and wait what

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] ODbL, CTs and tracing GPS tracks

2010-08-17 Thread John Smith
On 18 August 2010 01:51, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote: It's no more or less factual than recording temperature and other meteorological data at a weather station. In most countries various government and non-government organisations try to claim copyright over that sort of