Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Houses of cards

2008-02-21 Thread SteveC
On 21 Feb 2008, at 11:42, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Quoting SteveC [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On 21 Feb 2008, at 08:47, Rob Myers wrote: - I have violated the contract but I am completely anonymous and untraceable. Nobody can find out who I am to do anything about this. And OSM would want

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] transitive contracts

2008-02-21 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, On 20.02.2008, at 20:37, Frederik Ramm wrote: Hm. Suppose we used a restrictive copyleft license lice the ODL, but at the same time said that 12 months after being last edited, we release stuff into the public domain. [...] Maybe we can find a compromise along these lines. No

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Houses of cards

2008-02-21 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Frederik Ramm wrote: To me at least, it seems obvious what Rob says. If you have something that is not copyrighted, and you give it someone [A] under a contract, and that person breaches te contract and publishes the data, then whatever you gave him is up for grabs by anyone [B] as they're

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Houses of cards

2008-02-21 Thread Gervase Markham
Frederik Ramm wrote: [1] even more theoretical aside: maybe we should dual-license to also say we'll sell you full non-exclusive rights to planet.osm for £5,000 a node ;) I have a feeling that Rob can't be bought. I'm pro-copyleft and I'd support this :-) It's clear it would be more money

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Houses of cards

2008-02-21 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, I'm a bit confused. Isn't that situation, in US jurisdiction, a problem with any copyleft license that would be adopted? I can do this with gpl software, too. I can download the linux kernel, take away the license notices and then sell it to someone to use in a proprietary product.

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] transitive contracts

2008-02-21 Thread A Morris
Geographical features simply don't change very often. I don't think the fact that the data is one year old would discourage someone from copying stuff into their own proprietary dataset. Aled. On Thu, Feb 21, 2008 at 2:13 PM, Frederik Ramm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, No comments on that by

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] transitive contracts

2008-02-21 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, What would be lost if someone copied the February 2007 planet into their own proprietary dataset today? The principle of share-alike. Ah, the good old mantra I won't give you anything unless you give me something in return. Fair enough, it's the base pillar of commerce. And