Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Ordnance data

2008-02-19 Thread John Wilbanks
in a non-governed domain. If the copyright law attaches and the data is PD, I can extract it and your contract doesn't matter. You pays your money and you takes your choice. jtw Iván Sánchez Ortega wrote: El Miércoles, 20 de Febrero de 2008, John Wilbanks escribió: *Maps* may indeed

[OSM-legal-talk] GSDI 10

2008-02-25 Thread John Wilbanks
If anyone will be at GSDI in Trinidad this week, drop me a note if you'd like to meet in person. I'm speaking at the plenary session on Wednesday. I will likely refer to this debate in my comments but only in a general sense (i.e. I won't name anyone, just outline the contours of the PDDL/ODL

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] legal-talk Digest, Vol 19, Issue 1

2008-03-01 Thread John Wilbanks
I got a question from the list, did some research, and herein present the answers. That's it - as Steve noted early in this, IANAL, and arguments about the law between non lawyers can be as absurd as arguments about geospatial nodes between lawyers... I suggest you sit down with some lawyers

[OSM-legal-talk] compatibility with CC licenses

2009-02-28 Thread John Wilbanks
merging several threads here I am not speaking for CC the organization here - there have been no conversations to my knowledge about doing a compatibility check between ODbL and CC licensing. But, I would remind everyone that the current official CC policy on CC licenses and databases -

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] legal-talk Digest, Vol 31, Issue 4

2009-03-01 Thread John Wilbanks
(although I find the idea that freedom can only come from the barrel of a license deeply depressing). That's CC Zero out of the running then. Actually no. This is a slightly wonky lawyer debate about semantics, but we think tools like CC0 should be called *waivers* and not *licenses*.

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] ODbL comments from Creative Commons

2009-03-25 Thread John Wilbanks
Steve wrote: John I would assert that you're more worried about perceived competition for your licenses JTW says: If this were the case, we'd have taken in the ODbL, or we'd have written something like it. With CC's position in the licensing space it'd have been quickly adopted - people

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] OGC Geospatial Rights Management Summit

2009-06-09 Thread John Wilbanks
Puneet Kishor, who is a Science Commons Fellow looking at geospatial data and climate change, will be attending and hoisting the facts can't be copyrighted flag. jtw legal-talk-requ...@openstreetmap.org wrote: Message: 7 Date: Tue, 09 Jun 2009 10:06:00 +0200 From: Frederik Ramm

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] OGC Geospatial Rights Management Summit

2009-06-13 Thread John Wilbanks
On 9 Jun 2009, at 06:27, John Wilbanks wrote: Puneet Kishor, who is a Science Commons Fellow looking at geospatial data and climate change, will be attending and hoisting the facts can't be copyrighted flag. Er, sounds like a red herring to me since they can have database rights

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] CTs are not full copyright assignment

2011-06-07 Thread john wilbanks
. Science Commons ain't the voice of CC for data, and never was, and it's our collective fault in both parts of the organization that we allowed that to happen (as Mike Linksvayer pointed out in a post earlier this year at http://creativecommons.org/weblog/entry/26283). Back to lurking. jtw -- John

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] CTs are not full copyright assignment

2011-06-07 Thread john wilbanks
weren't very well integrated with CC at that point either. When I was in a previous job, I heard an aphorism that stuck with me. Never assume malice when you can assume conference calls. That about sums it up. jtw -- John Wilbanks VP for Science Creative Commons web: http