Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Cloudmade

2008-10-05 Thread Nick Black
Adrian and legal list, I'm writing this email in my position as a founder and employee of CloudMade. On Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 4:11 PM, Adrian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm sort of taking offence at your implied suggestion that there is one group of people who give to the project and another

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Cloudmade

2008-10-05 Thread Grant Slater
Nick Black wrote: ... Right now we're looking into a ticketing system that we can use to track emails to make sure this sort of thing doesn't happen again. So if anyone knows a good free as in speech (we're happy to pay, but we'd rather be able to hack at the source code if needed) ticketing

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Cloudmade

2008-10-05 Thread Nick Black
On Sun, Oct 5, 2008 at 7:48 PM, Grant Slater [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nick Black wrote: ... Right now we're looking into a ticketing system that we can use to track emails to make sure this sort of thing doesn't happen again. So if anyone knows a good free as in speech (we're happy to pay,

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Cloudmade

2008-10-03 Thread Adrian
Another example: I could take a planet dump, make a derivated product, and *not* release it into the public. You could then buy it from me, and you would *not* be bound to release it to the public for free. You could, though, possibly lowering the possibilities of me selling a second copy

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Cloudmade

2008-10-03 Thread SteveC
On 3 Oct 2008, at 14:39, Adrian wrote: I could tell you about our plans for ice cream gloves but I think this does it better: The difference being that you are planning on trading off of the back of the goodwill of many other people. I don't think it is unreasonable for those people

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Cloudmade

2008-10-03 Thread Adrian
I'm sort of taking offence at your implied suggestion that there is one group of people who give to the project and another group, among whom you seem to count Cloudmade and would probably also count Geofabrik, of people who take from the project to make a business. I'm sorry to have given