Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Licence compatibility: Open Data Licence for The Regional Municipality of Peel (Version 1.0)

2016-09-09 Thread Stewart Russell
On 9 September 2016 at 11:22, Simon Poole wrote: > > I believe it was one of the major issues that openaddresses.uk ran in > to, see > https://www.scribd.com/document_downloads/265440465?extension=pdf=embed=embed > page 48 and following. Uh oh, so does that mean the UK Postcode

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Licence compatibility: Open Data Licence for The Regional Municipality of Peel (Version 1.0)

2016-09-09 Thread Simon Poole
Am 09.09.2016 um 19:43 schrieb Robert Whittaker (OSM lists): > > There was a case in the UK where (IIRC) house price data was offered > under the UK Open Government Licence (OGL). It turned out later that > the addresses in it had been checked/normalised using a proprietary > address database,

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Licence compatibility: Open Data Licence for The Regional Municipality of Peel (Version 1.0)

2016-09-09 Thread Simon Poole
As Robert has pointed out: the difference is between taking the licence (OGL) as a licence to include stuff you can't licence :-) :-) and the normal case were the Licensor typically would not include material for which they don't have the necessary rights except for honest mistakes and fraud.

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Licence compatibility: Open Data Licence for The Regional Municipality of Peel (Version 1.0)

2016-09-09 Thread Robert Whittaker (OSM lists)
On 9 September 2016 at 18:19, Luis Villa wrote: > Can you elaborate on the second point, Simon? Are you referring to the > "third party rights the Information Provider is not authorised to license" > language? If so, I'm afraid they've merely made explicit what is implicit in > all

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Licence compatibility: Open Data Licence for The Regional Municipality of Peel (Version 1.0)

2016-09-09 Thread Luis Villa
Can you elaborate on the second point, Simon? Are you referring to the "third party rights the Information Provider is not authorised to license" language? If so, I'm afraid they've merely made explicit what is implicit in all licenses - if there is third party material in a work that the open

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Licence compatibility: Open Data Licence for The Regional Municipality of Peel (Version 1.0)

2016-09-08 Thread Simon Poole
The additional terms are "a bit of" a problem, however might be surmountable if they are willing to give us a statement specifically for the inclusion in OSM (along the lines of that they agree that the inclusion of the data in OpenStreetMap and distribution on terms of an open and free licence

[OSM-legal-talk] Licence compatibility: Open Data Licence for The Regional Municipality of Peel (Version 1.0)

2016-09-08 Thread Stewart Russell
Hi - this came up on talk-ca, and I want to make sure I'm not being too restrictive. Licence is a near clone of the UK OGL 1.0. Full text is here: http://opendata.peelregion.ca/terms-of-use.aspx Like many Canadian municipalities, they've added their own secret sauce, unfortunately. In the "You