Re: [DIY BUG] bash wants en_US locale

2006-02-10 Thread Alexander E. Patrakov
Justin R. Knierim wrote: Nevermind, I just tried with the 6.2-pre3 LiveCD and I can't reproduce the error either. Sorry for the noise, I can't figure it out. The issue is probably that the old root password contained some non-ASCII character, and someone recently changed the password to

Re: [DIY BUG] bash wants en_US locale

2006-02-10 Thread Alexander E. Patrakov
Randy McMurchy wrote: Justin R. Knierim wrote these words on 02/09/06 09:50 CST: IMO he isn't blaming BLFS for problems with UTF-8. Then you and I read plain English differently. IMO, the following statement directly conflicts with what you say above: But it is indeed better to say

Re: [DIY BUG] bash wants en_US locale

2006-02-10 Thread Justin R. Knierim
Alexander E. Patrakov wrote: Justin R. Knierim wrote: Nevermind, I just tried with the 6.2-pre3 LiveCD and I can't reproduce the error either. Sorry for the noise, I can't figure it out. The issue is probably that the old root password contained some non-ASCII character, and someone

Re: [DIY BUG] bash wants en_US locale

2006-02-09 Thread Randy McMurchy
Alexander E. Patrakov wrote these words on 02/08/06 22:52 CST: But it is indeed better to say no to UTF-8 support now, because of BLFS issues and because UTF-8 support is a property of the whole system, not just its base. The blacklist approach (If a package is not listed here, it means

Re: [DIY BUG] bash wants en_US locale

2006-02-09 Thread Justin R. Knierim
Randy McMurchy wrote: snip IMO he isn't blaming BLFS for problems with UTF-8. Alexander has publically stated that after adding UTF-8 to LFS, that maybe it really isn't ready for the main book. Even asking to revert it or put it in an experimental branch.

Re: [DIY BUG] bash wants en_US locale

2006-02-09 Thread Randy McMurchy
Justin R. Knierim wrote these words on 02/09/06 09:50 CST: IMO he isn't blaming BLFS for problems with UTF-8. Then you and I read plain English differently. IMO, the following statement directly conflicts with what you say above: But it is indeed better to say no to UTF-8 support now, because

Re: [DIY BUG] bash wants en_US locale

2006-02-09 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Justin Knierim wrote: There are other problems, such as people not wanting the bloat, english speakers not seeing the need, etc. Just to clarify: As an English (only) speaker, I really don't want UTF-8 on *my* system. As a BLFS developer, I certainly understand the desire and need for

Re: [DIY BUG] bash wants en_US locale

2006-02-09 Thread Chris Staub
Joel Miller wrote: Jeremy Huntwork wrote: snip And to further clarify, an LFS machine as it currently is does *not* automatically use UTF-8. The changes to the LFS book are so that the LFS system *can* use UTF-8 properly if a user requires it. IMO, this is snip I'd like some clarification on

Re: [DIY BUG] bash wants en_US locale

2006-02-09 Thread Chris Staub
Joel Miller wrote: Jeremy Huntwork wrote: snip And to further clarify, an LFS machine as it currently is does *not* automatically use UTF-8. The changes to the LFS book are so that the LFS system *can* use UTF-8 properly if a user requires it. IMO, this is snip I'd like some clarification on

Re: [DIY BUG] bash wants en_US locale

2006-02-09 Thread Justin R. Knierim
Jeremy Huntwork wrote: I tried looking for the error using a recently built LFS LiveCD. I've been using en_US.UTF-8 as a locale with it recently, and ssh both incoming and outgoing has worked fine for me. Logging in is fine. Once you are in, try su - root. Justin --

Re: [DIY BUG] bash wants en_US locale

2006-02-09 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
Justin R. Knierim wrote: Jeremy Huntwork wrote: I tried looking for the error using a recently built LFS LiveCD. I've been using en_US.UTF-8 as a locale with it recently, and ssh both incoming and outgoing has worked fine for me. Logging in is fine. Once you are in, try su - root. Worked

Re: [DIY BUG] bash wants en_US locale

2006-02-09 Thread Justin R. Knierim
Jeremy Huntwork wrote: Worked fine here... I will note that, seeing that I'm using a german locale, my keys were a bit askew. The 'z' and the 'y' were reversed and the '-' was where the '/' key is. Other than that, it worked fine. Hmm, strange. I wasn't using the German profile when I

Re: [DIY BUG] bash wants en_US locale

2006-02-09 Thread Justin R. Knierim
Justin R. Knierim wrote: Hmm, strange. I wasn't using the German profile when I reported that problem, it was the normal en_US.UTF-8. Anyways, I'll try it again tonight and see what I can find. Nevermind, I just tried with the 6.2-pre3 LiveCD and I can't reproduce the error either.

Re: [DIY BUG] bash wants en_US locale

2006-02-08 Thread Greg Schafer
Alexander E. Patrakov wrote: some tme ago I imported from DIY linux the statement that none of the locales are really required. As it stands now, this statement is wrong. When checking whether the ctype macros accept non-ascii characters, Bash configure script attempts to set the

Re: [DIY BUG] bash wants en_US locale

2006-02-08 Thread Alexander E. Patrakov
Greg Schafer wrote: Correct. However, the problem is with Readline and not Bash. You are of course right. Thanks for the correction. I noticed this in Chapter 5 as a difference between Glibc-based LFS and uClibc-based HLFS. That's why I thought it's bash. Now grep the Readline source for