Re: Managed hotplug events

(sorry, something is wrong again with the news server, thus the private CC:) Matthew Burgess wrote: Alexander E. Patrakov wrote: When the modified udev bootscript sets /sbin/udevsend as a handler, everything is ready. I thought the necessary changes had already got into the bootscripts

Re: 6.1 release branch, /etc/profile locale specification

Matthew Burgess wrote: Alexander E. Patrakov wrote: So it's better to change the book to say ISO-8859-1. Easy enough to do, added to my (ever growing) TODO for 6.1. Also some people say it's better to remove LC_ALL (i.e. set only LANG) and I tend to agree with them now. Please do

Re: 2 potentially 6.1 related questions

has to be added (maybe post-6.1) for eliminating important UTF-8 bug: http://www.gentoo.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/*checkout*/sys-apps/grep/files/2.5.1-utf8-case.patch?rev=1.1 -- Alexander E. Patrakov -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/faq

Re: 6.1 release branch, /etc/profile locale specification

Alexander E. Patrakov wrote: Matthew Burgess wrote: Alexander E. Patrakov wrote: So it's better to change the book to say ISO-8859-1. Hmm, but as Ken pointed out, 'locale -a' (which we point out on that same page) lists 'en_GB.iso88591', so I've a feeling us setting it to 'ISO-8859-1

gettext nitpick

gettext 0.14.4 requires creation of one more locale on glibc page checking for a traditional french locale... fr_FR checking for a french Unicode locale... fr_FR.UTF-8 -- Alexander E. Patrakov -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/faq

Re: gettext nitpick

Matthew Burgess wrote: Alexander E. Patrakov wrote: gettext 0.14.4 requires creation of one more locale on glibc page I took a quick look at the configure script and couldn't determin what effects having those 2 locales has, i.e. what features of gettext rely on those locales. I'm

[POST-6.1] translated output of bootscripts

of kbd-1.12 in order to move keymaps and screen fonts to /lib/kbd. 2) Translate BLFS bootscripts also. Will do that after discussion of translated LFS bootscripts. -- Alexander E. Patrakov -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/faq

Re: Text wrapping bug in bootscripts (on plain ASCII)

. For counting characters in $STRING, the ${#STRING} construction can be used. It won't work with non-bash in UTF-8 locales correctly, but the only (AFAIK) shell that supports UTF-8 is bash. So it's safe to assume that non-bash just won't be used in UTF-8 locales. -- Alexander E. Patrakov -- http

Re: Text wrapping bug in bootscripts (on plain ASCII)

Nathan Coulson wrote: BTW, does the # work under ash? [the Counting Characters part, not the international part. (Internationalzation for someone who wants to use ash, is probably not a major concern)] Then ${#STRING} construction works properly in ash in all 8-bit locales. -- Alexander E

Re: sysctl script at S90?

absolutely no relation to /proc contents. -- Alexander E. Patrakov -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/faq/ Unsubscribe: See the above information page

Useless note on Ch5 glibc page

in cross-LFS, but the explanation it is not needed is not perfect. -- Alexander E. Patrakov -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/faq/ Unsubscribe: See the above information page

Bashism in LFS-bootscripts

In /etc/rc.d/init.d/functions, we have: # if CUR_LENGTH was set to zero, then end the line if [ ${CUR_LENGTH} == 0 ]; then echo fi == is a bash-specific pattern matching operator. In this context, it should be replaced with a plain =. -- Alexander E

Re: flex-2.5.31

. -- Alexander E. Patrakov -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/faq/ Unsubscribe: See the above information page

Issues with pstree

attempts to fix those two bugs, but I cannot call the fix 100% correct for xterm (it relies upon the undocumented fact that xterm ignores the \033(K sequence). The -1a patch is IMHO a safer solution. Please choose which of the solutions should go into LFS-6.1. -- Alexander E. Patrakov Submitted

Issues with pstree

. Please choose which of the solutions should go into LFS-6.1. -- Alexander E. Patrakov Submitted by: Alexander E. Patrakov Date: 2005-06-05 Initial Package Version: 21.6 Upstream Status: Not Submitted - Hack Origin: Alexander E. Patrakov Description: This patch disables the use of VT100 line

Re: LiveCD glibc test error during LFS build

in Chapter 5. Cannot test this with Knoppix right now because of bandwidth issues. Maybe someone should add this to the list of known Chapter 5 glibc testsuite failures. -- Alexander E. Patrakov -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/faq

Re: LiveCD glibc test error during LFS build

should add this to the list of known Chapter 5 glibc testsuite failures. No need to do so, because the only known bad host so far is our -pre3 Live CD. -- Alexander E. Patrakov -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/faq/ Unsubscribe: See

UTF-8 and LSB testsuite

. The remaining are cpio failures, off-topic on this list. Will post them to blfs-dev separately after further investigation. -- Alexander E. Patrakov -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/faq/ Unsubscribe: See the above information page

Re: UTF-8 in LFS. New console script by Alexander E. Patrakov

or with a framebuffer? -- Alexander E. Patrakov -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/faq/ Unsubscribe: See the above information page

Re: grep: --with-included-regex: must be dropped for 6.1

. Results in the C locale are the same woth and without included regex. Compilation time and size of the grep binary are not. -- Alexander E. Patrakov -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/faq/ Unsubscribe: See the above information page

Updated console scripts for LFS 6.1 and 7.0

for both text-mode and framebuffer consoles. The -I '\033(K' agetty switch can be dropped from /etc/inittab in LFS-6.1 with this version of the console script. -- Alexander E. Patrakov #!/bin/sh # Begin $rc_base/init.d

Re: i18n appendix was [Bug 1516] Font set improperly on framebuffer console]

, SMBFS) non-English users have to compile NLS modules for the kernel and either modify the default NLS option in the kernel config or add options to the mount command or fstab, e.g.: mount -t iocharset=koi8-r /dev/cdrom /media/cdrom Sould this be mentioned in the book? Where? -- Alexander E

[Fwd: biggger changes in the next udev version]

Forwarding a message from linux-hotplug-devel list. ---BeginMessage--- We merged now the recent changes for udev to the upstream repository: http://kernel.org/git/gitweb.cgi?p=linux/hotplug/udev.git;a=summary It is a sync-up with the features of the currently shipped SUSE version along with

Re: i18n appendix was [Bug 1516] Font set improperly on framebuffer console]

splitting bash profile between two pages, one dealing with INPUTRC=/etc/inputrc (in chapter 7) and the other one dealing with LANG? -- Alexander E. Patrakov -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/faq/ Unsubscribe: See the above information

About the LINGUAS environment variable

itself will be in English. To install no translations, set LINGUAS to the empty value: export LINGUAS= If the LINGUAS variable isn't exported, all available translations are installed. -- Alexander E. Patrakov -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http

Re: About the LINGUAS environment variable

Tushar Teredesai wrote: On 6/22/05, Alexander E. Patrakov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: export LINGUAS=it es Many moons ago I had tried this approach, but some packages failed during compilation. I did not dig deeper. Found it was easier to just remove the unwanted translations. Maybe

Re: About the LINGUAS environment variable

Alexander E. Patrakov wrote: 1) No build errors in LFS-testing. Will post partial BLFS results later On the Live CD, the following packages create unwanted translations when LINGUAS is set to ru es xx: eject kbd libstdc++ subversion util-linux wget - This can be fixed by upgrading to 1.10

Re: xi:include tags in the cross-lfs book

a warning{/para}{/mark} ... {reuse name=some-warning/} Is it possible to implement? -- Alexander E. Patrakov -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/faq/ Unsubscribe: See the above information page

Re: sh compliance problems

the book so that #!/bin/bash, not #!/bin/sh, appears at the top of those scripts. -- Alexander E. Patrakov -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/faq/ Unsubscribe: See the above information page

Re: sh compliance problems

with the initramfs-based early hotplug event replay mechanism in udev-060. -- Alexander E. Patrakov -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/faq/ Unsubscribe: See the above information page

Re: gawk-3.1.4: wrong charset for Italian translation

Archaic wrote: On Fri, Jul 08, 2005 at 05:05:41PM +0600, Alexander E. Patrakov wrote: gawk-3.1.4/it.po specifies ISO-8859-8 as its charset, which is wrong (should be ISO-8859-1). Please add the following correction to the book, Chapter 6: Has this been sent upstream? Probably, by Debian

Groff/man versions and UTF-8

and the output are in ISO-8859-1 (so that no conversions take place in groff), and the trailing iconv pipe converts from the translator's charset to the user's one. It is a no-op in non-UTF-8 locales where those two are in fact the same. -- Alexander E. Patrakov -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman

Re: charset/language/fluxbox

that will be accepted by such picky packages. -- Alexander E. Patrakov -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/faq/ Unsubscribe: See the above information page

Re: charset/language/fluxbox

/X11/locale/locale.alias file. -- Alexander E. Patrakov -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/faq/ Unsubscribe: See the above information page

Re: charset/language/fluxbox

/blfs-dev/2005-July/010401.html -- Alexander E. Patrakov -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/faq/ Unsubscribe: See the above information page

Re: LFS Roadmap

occasionally. Some of the users for which 8-bit encodings work might still prefer UTF-8 for compatibility with RedHat (at the cost of incompatibility with the rest of the world). Also UTF-8 support is a requirement for LSB certification. -- Alexander E. Patrakov -- http://linuxfromscratch.org

Re: gawk-3.1.4: wrong charset for Italian translation

Matthew Burgess wrote: Alexander E. Patrakov wrote: Archaic wrote: Has this been sent upstream? Probably, by Debian. That's where I got the fix from. Has anyone else managed to find any archives of the bug-gawk mailing list, which is where bug reports are supposed to be sent

Re: Bash Docs

of documentation. Converting to HTML: groff -Thtml -mandoc /usr/share/man/man1/bash.1 /tmp/bash.html -- Alexander E. Patrakov -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/faq/ Unsubscribe: See the above information page

libcurses.so - libncurses.so symlink and ldconfig

). If this symlink is indeed bad, it can be removed and the libcurses.so - libncurses.so symlink can be replaced with a simple linker script: rm libncurses.so.5 rm libcurses.so echo 'INPUT(-lncurses)' libcurses.so If the symlink is a non-problem, sorry for the noise. -- Alexander E. Patrakov

lfslivecd-x86-6.x-utf8-r0 released

issues are not covered by this sample implementation at all. -- Alexander E. Patrakov -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/faq/ Unsubscribe: See the above information page

Re: [RFC] On LFS' Package Selection Policy

, PAM and RPM. Also it sometimes stiffles the progress (aka new versions of libraries don't pass the testsuite). This is not likely what most want in the main LFS book. A separate book or branch is probably OK. -- Alexander E. Patrakov -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ

Re: [RFC] On LFS' Package Selection Policy

is at least dubious. I hope that avdantages (like hardware autodetection and persistent names for USB storage devices) overweigh this, but your opinion may be different. -- Alexander E. Patrakov -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/faq

Pushing UTF-8 support into LFS

that supports UTF-8. BUGS ON THE CD: see -- Alexander E. Patrakov -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/faq/ Unsubscribe: See the above information page

Re: Pushing UTF-8 support into LFS

I wrote: BUGS ON THE CD: see http://svn.linuxfromscratch.org/viewcvs.cgi/x86/branches/utf8/BUGS?rev=549root=livecdview=markup -- Alexander E. Patrakov -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/faq/ Unsubscribe: See the above information

Re: LFS Bootscripts

as if pidof it's finding it's own PID but that can't be either because it does not find itself in the second example. I'm at a loss. Will revisit after some sleep. Is that because of stty sane at the bottom of the functions file? -- Alexander E. Patrakov -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo

Re: Cross LFS Pure 64bit Book

to build 32 bit correct? Or am I missing something? AFAIK, for pure64 builds, lilo should be used instead of grub. -- Alexander E. Patrakov -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/faq/ Unsubscribe: See the above information page

Re: Proposal: proactive search for autofoo bugs

config.h.in entry and obsolete code) cannot be distinguished from each other automatically. One of them is a bug. It might also be good to report the problems upstream where possible. Sure. -- Alexander E. Patrakov -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http

On the recent removal of Bison from Chapter 5

. -- Alexander E. Patrakov -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/faq/ Unsubscribe: See the above information page

Re: Proposal: proactive search for autofoo bugs

Bryan Kadzban wrote: Alexander E. Patrakov wrote: The two cases (forgotten config.h.in entry and obsolete code) cannot be distinguished from each other automatically. One of them is a bug. I thought manually setting up config.h.in was obsolete -- aren't people supposed to be using AC_DEFINE

Re: Do we need hotplug?

is limited to hardware detection facilities (compare /etc/sysconfig/modules in LFS-6.1 with LFS-6.0), and BLFS doesn't use hotplug yet. But it is useful. -- Alexander E. Patrakov -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/faq/ Unsubscribe: See the above

Re: Do we need hotplug?

Jürg Billeter wrote: (about udev workflow) If you need more details or see potential problems, just mail. Thanks. When I said about races that are hard to avoid, I just meant I have to inspect this because there were races in the past. -- Alexander E. Patrakov -- http

Re: Remove inetutils from LFS [was Re: GCC-4.0.1]

) It is an optional dependency of Man-DB (to be used instead of Man in the UTF-8 branch of the LFS book) -- Alexander E. Patrakov -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/faq/ Unsubscribe: See the above information page

Re: --disable-nls

Greg Schafer wrote: Alexander E. Patrakov wrote: No, it was added deliberately in order to avoid binutils dependency on the host gettext. So Binutils won't build with NLS if Gettext is missing on the host? Right. Hmmm, interesting. Is this a FSF or HJL thing or both? I've just noticed

Re: Remove inetutils from LFS [was Re: GCC-4.0.1]

Jeremy Huntwork wrote: Alexander E. Patrakov wrote: 3) It is an optional dependency of Man-DB (to be used instead of Man in the UTF-8 branch of the LFS book) Hrm? Has there been some decision there I've missed? No decision yet, but a proposal :) UTF-8 branch of the book doesn't exist yet

Re: Sed assumptions

in that past glibc build system used sed -i. Are you sure that other Ch5 packages don't do the same? -- Alexander E. Patrakov -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/faq/ Unsubscribe: See the above information page

Re: Pushing UTF-8 support into LFS

Tushar Teredesai wrote: On 8/6/05, Alexander E. Patrakov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: a sample LFS-like system that supports UTF-8 is available on a live CD. So, it may be a good idea to create an experimental branch of the LFS book that incorporates the same changes. LFS built according

Re: gcc4 - proposed changes to glibc check

there will be a branch that adds some patches to address UTF-8 problems, this will become a non-issue for that branch. -- Alexander E. Patrakov -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/faq/ Unsubscribe: See the above information page

Re: Bug in LFS?

) If the generic IDE driver is used because the proper one is missing, locking doesn't work. Of course I should have checked it before posting, but I have very little time now. A test would be to configure the relevant IDE chipset out of the kernel and see if locking breaks. -- Alexander E

Re: [RFC] Udev configuration changes

statement is also incorrect because ssh can properly create ptys all day long with the proper permissions. So apparently a closer look into both scenarios is warranted. LFS installs the script program. PTYs must be available for it to work. -- Alexander E. Patrakov -- http://linuxfromscratch.org

Re: some minor bootscript things

? In the latter case, take a look at posh: http://freshmeat.net/projects/posh/ -- Alexander E. Patrakov -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/faq/ Unsubscribe: See the above information page

Re: Character problems from the 0906 GCC4 build

?) terminal emulator? If on Linux console, which version of LFS-bootscripts and what's in /etc/sysconfig/console? -- Alexander E. Patrakov -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/faq/ Unsubscribe: See the above information page

[OT] Urlich Drepper's viewpoint on LSB

Do you still think the LSB has some value? http://www.livejournal.com/users/udrepper/8511.html -- Alexander E. Patrakov -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/faq/ Unsubscribe: See the above information page

Re: Time to remove hotplug?

/hotplug to /sbin/udevsend (the time window between mounting the root fs and setting hotplug handler to /sbin/udevsend is ignored). Also, as a kernel driver author, I can say that my framebuffer driver gets sysfs and udev support for free when I call register_framebuffer(). -- Alexander E

Re: Time to remove hotplug?

because hotplug's initscript conflicts with udeveventrecorder or whatever from udev you want to handle the cold-plugging case. -- Alexander E. Patrakov -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/faq/ Unsubscribe: See the above information page

UTF-8 book is ready

is not supported, IMHO, better fits with the style of the book. Thus, I object to merging this into trunk until enough questions are asked. A branch is always OK. -- Alexander E. Patrakov -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/faq/ Unsubscribe: See

Re: UTF-8 book is ready

locales are used. Is this sufficient? Of course, for cdrtools there will be a patch since this package is too important to just drop. -- Alexander E. Patrakov -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/faq/ Unsubscribe: See the above information

Re: gcc fixcincludes

that it is guaranteed there, because it would have barfed earlier (in glibc Makefiles, unless they fixed that). Anyway, LFS is faulty here because it doesn't explain the minimum required versions of host sortware except the kernel. -- Alexander E. Patrakov -- http://linuxfromscratch.org

Current udev/hotplug setup is broken

setup that breaks nothing in BLFS requires linux-2.6.14, patched libusb and mandatory initramfs (and thus cpio-2.6 in LFS) which is IMHO too early to implement. -- Alexander E. Patrakov -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/faq

Re: Current udev/hotplug setup is broken

Tushar Teredesai wrote: On 9/30/05, Alexander E. Patrakov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know this is a legacy setup, but the proper pure-udev setup that breaks nothing in BLFS requires linux-2.6.14, patched libusb and mandatory initramfs (and thus cpio-2.6 in LFS) which is IMHO too early

Re: Current udev/hotplug setup is broken

Alexander E. Patrakov wrote: Hello, while testing the utf8-newmake CD, I found that it (unlike utf8-r0 CD) won't load usb-storage and sd-mod modules if I plug in my USB MP3 player. The reason is that udev no longer runs programs in /etc/hotplug.d (in particular, usb.agent and scsi.agent

Re: [OT] Re: Commit 6803 contains invalid char on commit log

Alexander E. Patrakov wrote: I suggest dumping and restoring. With my toy repository at file:///home/patrakov/svn-test, the sequence of actions is: snip I understand that with fsfs this sequence of actions may be suboptimal. With fsfs, that's as easy as editing /home/svn/repositories/LFS

Re: [OT] Re: Commit 6803 contains invalid char on commit log

Anderson Lizardo wrote: Alexander E. Patrakov wrote: With fsfs, that's as easy as editing /home/svn/repositories/LFS/db/revprops/6803 on belgarath. Don't forget to change V 160 to V 161. BTW it looks like I have enough permissions to do that :) Do you want me to fix the log or prefer doing

glibc bug in LFS-6.1 and its nALFS profile (was: Help for building LiveCD)

the ALFS list, let's see if they do something for us first. In the meanwhile, you can just use the 6.x-utf8-r0 CD: it contains glibc-2.3.5, but it is not based on any released LFS book. But it still contains a profile that builds glibc-2.3.4 without the patch :( -- Alexander E. Patrakov

Re: [RFC] LFS-6.1.1

of this bug). Change the root password. Start the ssh daemon. Attempt to connect to this server using the correct password. You will not be able to get to a shell prompt because connection closed unexpectedly. -- Alexander E. Patrakov -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http

Re: FC4 host (was Re: [RFC] LFS-6.1.1)

Greg Schafer wrote: Alexander E. Patrakov wrote: 5) Blacklist Fedora Core 4 since it can't build binutils. Huh? Stable or development LFS? Stable, i.e. 6.1 Could you please supply details of the problem? This is from the current development LFS LiveCD, not FC4, but I assume

Re: [RFC] LFS-6.1.1

some other bug that can lead to similar ssh failures? -- Alexander E. Patrakov -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/faq/ Unsubscribe: See the above information page

Re: On removing hotplug from LFS

. Another thing: on request, I will post relevant parts of a sample driver for a simple PCI device (S3 trio 3D/2x video card) here and will do detailed analysis of its sysfs interaction. Alternatively, I can do that for radeonfb or any other well-written PCI/AGP framebuffer driver. -- Alexander E

Re: jhalfs: Ready to go.

packages after it. Thus, constructions of the following form fail: if [ $i = 082-groff ] ; then {do something} ; fi. Until this is fixed, I can't make my UTF-8 book compatible with jhalfs. BTW, a similar problem will appear soon in trunk due to removal of hotplug. -- Alexander E. Patrakov -- http

UTF-8 book updated

incompatibility (aka package compiles but is unusable in UTF-8 locales) with the current BLFS. You can also help improving the book by reading the text, building LFS and asking questions. -- Alexander E. Patrakov -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http

Re: jhalfs: Ready to go.

. My computer frequently spontaneously reboots (can't even build binutils), and there's no hope for a fix in the next two weeks because nobody is responsible for the faulty piece of line. -- Alexander E. Patrakov -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http

Re: [RFC] LFS-6.1.1

instructions from trunk. See http://archives.linuxfromscratch.org/mail-archives/lfs-dev/2005-September/053532.html -- Alexander E. Patrakov -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/faq/ Unsubscribe: See the above information page

Re: jhalfs: Ready to go.

I wrote: M.Canales.es wrote: El Sábado, 15 de Octubre de 2005 04:54, Alexander E. Patrakov escribió: 1. For the UTF-8 book, it is also needed to download glibc-libidn-2.3.5.tar.bz2 from lfs-matrix. Please handle this similarly to glibc-linuxthreads and bash-doc tarballs

Re: UTF-8 in {,B}LFS

Richard A Downing wrote: Alexander E. Patrakov wrote: Richard A Downing wrote: there may well be some packages we should add that ONLY work in Chinese or Japanese in the longer term (we may be asked to do this by new friends, and we should be open to that idea). I emphasise though

Re: Perl - Cross-LFS Multilib

is that there's no vendor_perl directory in the stock LFS installation. I agree with the rest for multilib. -- Alexander E. Patrakov -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/faq/ Unsubscribe: See the above information page

Re: Udev changes

on-topic for blfs-dev. -- Alexander E. Patrakov -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/faq/ Unsubscribe: See the above information page

Re: Udev changes

Duncan Webb wrote: Alexander E. Patrakov wrote: Duncan Webb wrote: Matthew Burgess wrote: # usbfs-like device nodes SUBSYSTEM=usb_device, PROGRAM=/bin/sh -c 'X=%k X=$${X#usbdev} B=$${X.*} D=$${X#*.}; echo bus/usb/$$B/$$D', SYMLINK+=%c Only after linux-2.6.14 please

binutils-2.16.1-posix-1.patch

books, or in none. The question is whether both or none is the correct answer. AFAIK there are no hosts in the real world that don't understand tail -1, and the new version of coreutils says that disallowing this syntax was a mistake. -- Alexander E. Patrakov -- http://linuxfromscratch.org

Re: config.site

and --infodir to each package (and thus teach people bad habit of typing long commands when shorter ones work), or use config.site. -- Alexander E. Patrakov -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/faq/ Unsubscribe: See the above information page

Re: kmod.c

tmpfs is mounted on /dev. Note that the hotplug event for /dev/vcs0 is almost guaranteed to reach /sbin/hotplug before /dev is mounted, because it is generated when /sbin/init opens /dev/console for the rc script. -- Alexander E. Patrakov -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev

udev-config-5.rules

/control Or even better: KERNEL==device-mapper, NAME= since this node can be created both by dmsetup mknodes and by vgmknodes. -- Alexander E. Patrakov -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/faq/ Unsubscribe: See the above information page

Re: Bug 1642

. As for installation of this file as a documentation for future reference when choosing a locale, this may be sometimes useful when deciding whether to drop the charset field. No guarantees exist though. This is just a list of locales to try and see if they work. -- Alexander E. Patrakov -- http

Re: Bug 1642

in a synonim for glibc, without this field) is hoped to give good-enough results. It is even more important that readers should know how to detect failing locales, i.e. know the relevant error messages. -- Alexander E. Patrakov -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http

[Fwd: Re: Which version of 2.6.11 is most stable]

That's something to consider for 6.1.1 release. Looks like we really have to bump the kernel version or hunt for the security fixes ourselves :( -- Alexander E. Patrakov ---BeginMessage--- On Mon, Nov 07, 2005 at 03:38:13PM +0530, Mukund JB. wrote: Dear All, I am in the phase

Re: kmod.c

Nathan Coulson wrote: On 11/2/05, Alexander E. Patrakov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jeremy Huntwork wrote: Heya, These instructions appear at least in the x86_64 Multilib CLFS book. (I didn't check the others): Also, ensure that the kernel does not attempt to pass hotplugging events

Re: LFS Book indention

hope that I will fix this later today. -- Alexander E. Patrakov -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/faq/ Unsubscribe: See the above information page

Re: LFS Book indention

Alexander E. Patrakov wrote: M.Canales.es wrote: UTF-8 .- Not yet in the official LFS repository (when will be added?), but is the most problematic one. Alexander, if you send to me a patch against current trunk, I will try to create an updated patch against

Re: Progress of the build order changes

of the matter. Could you please tell me where they are stripping out dates from binaries? E.g. the build date is the only difference in /usr/sbin/nscd, as can be verified by the xxd tool. -- Alexander E. Patrakov -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http

Re: grub

for LILO but not for the other bootloaders that allows booting from devices managed by non-standard partitioning schemes such as LVM2. Since my /dev/hda is managed by LVM2, I won't look at anything except LILO. -- Alexander E. Patrakov -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ

Re: grub

x86 and x86_64. Also there's a patch for LILO but not for the other bootloaders that allows booting from devices managed by non-standard partitioning schemes such as LVM2. Since my /dev/hda is managed by LVM2, I won't look at anything except LILO. -- Alexander E. Patrakov -- http

Re: Perl hard-coded /bin/less

, without -isR. This is needed for the perldoc script, that displas ^]... instead of showing bold text if the -Dpager=... option is not given. -- Alexander E. Patrakov -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/faq/ Unsubscribe: See the above information

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