Re: [liberationtech] Identity Based Encryption

2013-06-26 Thread Julian Oliver
..on Tue, Jun 25, 2013 at 10:57:57AM -0400, Mrs. Y. wrote: I'm in a position to recommend/suggest an encryption solution for email. The audience is *very* sensitive to privacy, but not very technical. IBE seems to solve this, but there are concerns with the PKG (private key generator) being

Re: [liberationtech] DuckDuckGo vs Startpage

2013-06-26 Thread Mike Perry
Nick: Quoth Mike Perry: Hidden service circuits require ~4X as many Tor router traversals as normal Tor exit circuits to set up, and unlike normal Tor exit circuits, they are often *not* prebuilt. Once they are set up, they still require 2X as many Tor router traversals end-to-end

Re: [liberationtech] safermobile.org / mobileactive.org manuals

2013-06-26 Thread oli
On 06/25/2013 05:00 PM, Laurent Giacobino wrote: Hi list Does anyone know where to find a repository of the safermobile / mobileactive manuals? tactical tech's guide was updated and is available in many languages, too. it has a lot on mobiles: https://securityinabox.org/ -oli -- Too many

Re: [liberationtech] Security over SONET/SDH

2013-06-26 Thread Eugen Leitl
- Forwarded message from s...@wwcandt.com - Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2013 19:34:17 -0400 (EDT) From: s...@wwcandt.com To: sur...@mauigateway.com Cc: na...@nanog.org Subject: Re: Security over SONET/SDH User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.8-21.el5.centos Reply-To: s...@wwcandt.com The sticky problem

Re: [liberationtech] Security over SONET/SDH

2013-06-26 Thread Eugen Leitl
- Forwarded message from Leo Bicknell bickn...@ufp.org - Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2013 19:56:24 -0500 From: Leo Bicknell bickn...@ufp.org To: s...@wwcandt.com Cc: na...@nanog.org Subject: Re: Security over SONET/SDH X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1508) On Jun 25, 2013, at 6:34 PM, s...@wwcandt.com

Re: [liberationtech] DuckDuckGo vs Startpage

2013-06-26 Thread Jacob Appelbaum
Mike Perry: Nick: Quoth Mike Perry: Hidden service circuits require ~4X as many Tor router traversals as normal Tor exit circuits to set up, and unlike normal Tor exit circuits, they are often *not* prebuilt. Once they are set up, they still require 2X as many Tor router traversals

Re: [liberationtech] DuckDuckGo vs Startpage

2013-06-26 Thread Nick
Quoth Mike Perry: If you're talking about attacks as strong as end-to-end correlation, then it turns out hidden services have similar weaknesses on that order. There are a number of points where the adversary can inject themselves either to observe or manipulate hidden service circuit

Re: [liberationtech] DuckDuckGo vs Startpage

2013-06-26 Thread Nick
Quoth Mike Perry: I find StartPage/Google immensely superior to Duckduckgo/Bing when searching the long tail of technical material (which I do frequently). In that case I agree StartPage probably makes sense. Search engines are mainly useful for long tail things; for other stuff I generally

[liberationtech] Call for Papers: International Conference on Cyberwarfare and Security (ICCWS)

2013-06-26 Thread Michael Dahan
Greetings,This may interest members of the list and I see it as an opportunity to challenge some of the prevalent thinking and approaches regarding the topics. Best, Michael This is a SECOND call for papers for the *9th International Conference on**Cyber Warfare and Security (ICCWS) * which

Re: [liberationtech] Call for Participants @ Noisy Square - Putting the Resistance back in OHM

2013-06-26 Thread Lex van Roon
On 06/26/2013 12:18, groente wrote: Is this the pitch of left unity at any cost? Because no, actually, it turns out that unity isn't the best thing ever. Do you want a big tent that means nothing? Do you think that the OHM orga is united in fighting for the destruction of the power

[liberationtech] Internet is designed for surveillance

2013-06-26 Thread Yosem Companys
*From: *Bob Frankston bob19-0...@bobf.frankston.com The current implementation of the Internet is hierarchical in that we get IP addresses from provides and then use a DNS that is rooted. We go even further in requiring that we conform to conditions on our intent (AKA our use) of connectivity in

Re: [liberationtech] Call for Participants @ Noisy Square - Putting the Resistance back in OHM

2013-06-26 Thread Ruben Bloemgarten
Yay, Dutchy pileup. Joining the fray. WARNING : the following lecture contains the word penis. (But it does not have the word fuck. (Can I say fuck on libtech ?)) On 06/26/2013 12:55 PM, Lex van Roon wrote: On 06/26/2013 12:18, groente wrote: Is this the pitch of left unity at any cost?

Re: [liberationtech] Internet is designed for surveillance

2013-06-26 Thread Eugen Leitl
On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 09:03:43AM -0700, Yosem Companys wrote: Where is the effort honor the Internet paradigm and move away from the presumption of hierarchy to a distributed approach that doesn’t assume that we must declare our intent merely to exchange bits? At very least we should move

Re: [liberationtech] Call for Participants @ Noisy Square - Putting the Resistance back in OHM

2013-06-26 Thread Ruben Bloemgarten
Yay, Dutchy pileup. Joining the fray. WARNING : the following lecture contains the word penis. (But it does not have the word fuck. (Can I say fuck on libtech ?)) On 06/26/2013 12:55 PM, Lex van Roon wrote: On 06/26/2013 12:18, groente wrote: Is this the pitch of left unity at any cost?

Re: [liberationtech] DuckDuckGo vs Startpage [was: Help test Tor Browser]

2013-06-26 Thread The Doctor
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 06/24/2013 09:16 PM, Daniel Sieradski wrote: Has there ever been any effort to create an open source search engine that is entirely transparent in both its software and practices? (dmoz.org doesn't count!) ...YaCY? http://yacy.de/ - -- The

[liberationtech] A Different Panel with Whistleblowers

2013-06-26 Thread Shava Nerad
Just as an historical footnote, at #cfp2013 today, I verified with Binney that his statement re: Snowden's transition from whistleblower to traitor was in fact a risk assessment of his positioning. (We're listening to him speak over lunch right now.) He is spending all his time evangelizing for

Re: [liberationtech] Internet is designed for surveillance

2013-06-26 Thread Bernard Tyers - ei8fdb
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Bob, I agree with you on the whole but I'm going to argue some of your points. On 26 Jun 2013, at 17:03, Yosem Companys wrote: From: Bob Frankston bob19-0...@bobf.frankston.com The current implementation of the Internet is hierarchical in

Re: [liberationtech] Internet is designed for surveillance

2013-06-26 Thread Bob Frankston
I realize it's very hard to give up on the idea of networks but they are no more necessary for communicating than railroads are for travels. Nice options but not the only ones. As you note the idea of rent-seeking is at the heart of the matter. Being around when the fathers and mothers of the

Re: [liberationtech] Internet is designed for surveillance

2013-06-26 Thread Lucas Gonze
Bob, can you give examples alternatives to pipes owned by service providers? On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 12:39 PM, Bob Frankston bob19-0...@bobf.frankston.com wrote: I realize it's very hard to give up on the idea of networks but they are no more necessary for communicating than railroads are for

Re: [liberationtech] DuckDuckGo vs Startpage

2013-06-26 Thread Mike Perry
Jacob Appelbaum: Mike Perry: In terms of data confidentiality and integrity though, I think it is probably true that the Tor hidden service trust root is much stronger than the browser CA trust root, even given the 80bit name hash and RSA-1024 sized keys (which probably are roughly

[liberationtech] Is Ecuador the Safe Haven We Want to Believe In?

2013-06-26 Thread hellekin
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Ecuador won a huge credibility bump in hackerdom when it offered political asylum to Julian Assange. That is confirmed with Edward Snowden jumping from HK to Ecuador via the Red Block to evade the Angry Murder of U.S. crows. There is a pattern

Re: [liberationtech] DuckDuckGo vs Startpage [was: Help test Tor Browser]

2013-06-26 Thread Mike Perry
The Doctor: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 06/24/2013 09:16 PM, Daniel Sieradski wrote: Has there ever been any effort to create an open source search engine that is entirely transparent in both its software and practices? (dmoz.org doesn't count!) ...YaCY?

Re: [liberationtech] Is Ecuador the Safe Haven We Want to Believe In?

2013-06-26 Thread Eleanor Saitta
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 2013.06.26 18.26, hellekin wrote: Ecuador won a huge credibility bump in hackerdom when it offered political asylum to Julian Assange. That is confirmed with Edward Snowden jumping from HK to Ecuador via the Red Block to evade the Angry

Re: [liberationtech] How many of us are at CFP?

2013-06-26 Thread R. Jason Cronk
I was though didn't see the message until just now. Jason On 6/25/2013 2:28 PM, Shava Nerad wrote: I am. *purr* Shava Nerad shav...@gmail.com mailto:shav...@gmail.com On Jun 25, 2013 11:58 AM, Bill Woodcock wo...@pch.net mailto:wo...@pch.net wrote: ...today? Apropos

Re: [liberationtech] DuckDuckGo vs Startpage [was: Help test Tor Browser]

2013-06-26 Thread Axel Simon
On 27/06/13 01:02, Mike Perry wrote: The Doctor: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 06/24/2013 09:16 PM, Daniel Sieradski wrote: Has there ever been any effort to create an open source search engine that is entirely transparent in both its software and practices? (dmoz.org

Re: [liberationtech] Is Ecuador the Safe Haven We Want to Believe In?

2013-06-26 Thread Andrés Leopoldo Pacheco Sanfuentes
The recently re-drafted Ecuadorean Constitution is the only one in the world, I believe, that gives legal rights to Nature, and its current President has done a lot for wealth redistribution and social justice, in my opinion. Much more than the US Presidents of late. On Jun 26, 2013 6:14 PM,

[liberationtech] Introducing CrossCloud: A project to get your data out of silos - Knight Foundation

2013-06-26 Thread Yosem Companys
http://www.knightfoundation.org/blogs/knightblog/2013/6/25/introducing-crosscloud-project-get-your-data-out-silos/ When Tim Berners-Lee invented the World Wide Web, he imagined it being a better way for people around the world to share knowledge and work together to solve humanity's greatest

Re: [liberationtech] NSA, FBI, Verizon caught red handed spying on US citizens in the US

2013-06-26 Thread Douglas Lucas
Resurrecting an old thread here to make a point about the question, To what extent are US GOV foreign policy decision-makers monolithic or fractured? Sometimes history offers a good window into thinking about these things. For example, JFK losing control over Vietnam policy, just as he was almost