Re: [liberationtech] [guardian-dev] An email service that requires GPG/PGP?

2013-08-10 Thread Ali-Reza Anghaie
Griffin, The more this gets fleshed out on list - the more it departs from any vestige of email and then you're basically talking about shoe-horning a different architectural beast into a transport protocol we happen to know. (I'm not saying ~you~ are planning that - just making an observation of

Re: [liberationtech] Revised Liberationtech List Guidelines

2013-08-10 Thread Jillian C. York
One (perhaps pedantic) comment: A zero-tolerance policy implies zero tolerance, but is contradicted in #7, where you state that *persistent* violations will get you moderated. Either you have a zero-tolerance policy, or you have a second-, third-, and fourth-chance policy. Which is it? On

Re: [liberationtech] Bill Gates on Project Loon vs malaria

2013-08-10 Thread Glassman, Michael
I think it might be important to realize that access to information and famine and disease are not mutually exclusive to each other. For instance if Amartya Sen (the Nobel award winning economist) analysis is right famine is not caused by lack of food but by lack of knowledge about access and

[liberationtech] Anonymous’ Secret Presence In The U.S. Army

2013-08-10 Thread David Johnson
Very interesting interview with an active-duty Army captain who claims to be part of Anonymous ... and he says there are others in the military like him. http://www.buzzfeed.com/justinesharrock/anonymous-secret-presence-in-the-us-army [AJAM] David V. Johnson Online Opinion Editor 435 Hudson

Re: [liberationtech] Bill Gates on Project Loon vs malaria

2013-08-10 Thread LilBambi
That is an excellent point, Michael!! Also, there are many ways to help people. And not everyone has to do the same thing. People help where they can or feel comfortable. Being made to feel they have to try to fit someone else's model is never the best way for folks to do what their hearts lead

Re: [liberationtech] [guardian-dev] An email service that requires GPG/PGP?

2013-08-10 Thread Richard
On Fri, Aug 09, 2013 at 05:07:26PM -0400, Tim Prepscius wrote: If you'd like to help me that would be cool.. My take on this is this: (these are are not all my ideas, can't take full credit) We want to get to a state where an e-mail server is easy to set up. And runs with *non

Re: [liberationtech] Bill Gates on Project Loon vs malaria

2013-08-10 Thread Nadim Kobeissi
I actually agree with Bill Gates here. If I had his money, I would make sure people have clean water, toilets, condoms, before even starting to consider working on Internet access. Sure, his comments are below the belt as Andrés says below, but this is only because he is unfairly attacking a

Re: [liberationtech] Cryptocat Hackathon, NYC, August 17-18!

2013-08-10 Thread Nadim Kobeissi
Hi everyone, I just wanted to share the happy news that the Cryptocat Hackathon has a sign-up rate composed of more than 35% women so far. This is really awesome. Having more women participating in such events may help bridge the gender gap in the tech scene. I'm glad that for some reason

Re: [liberationtech] Lavabit, Silent Circle both shut down

2013-08-10 Thread Arjen Kamphuis
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 08/09/2013 09:44 PM, Kyle Maxwell wrote: On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 liberationt...@lewman.us wrote: On Fri, 09 Aug 2013 mor...@torservers.net wrote: Repeat after me: Iceland is *not* a data haven. [citation needed] Shouldn't it be the other way

Re: [liberationtech] From Snowden's email provider. NSL???

2013-08-10 Thread Michael Rogers
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 09/08/13 17:43, Reed Black wrote: CryptoCat is served up by the Chrome app store. Do you have control over what binary gets distributed to who? Does any assurace exist beyond the app store's own signing validation? I thought this was like

Re: [liberationtech] Lavabit, Silent Circle both shut down

2013-08-10 Thread Ralph Holz
Hi Arjen, On 08/10/2013 05:37 PM, Arjen Kamphuis wrote: There are many high quality hosting providers in Switserland who do great work at a range of cost-levels. I moved my mailserver to one of them in early 2006 when it data-retention was on its way to be implemented in Europe in the wake of

[liberationtech] Cloud hosting in Iceland

2013-08-10 Thread Al Billings
This seems a good week to mention a coop that some people I know, like Eleanor Saitta, are trying to start (I'm in the group, actually) to do various kinds of cloud hosting, especially email, on a server farm in Iceland. We're trying to gather the initial set of people and do funding before it

[liberationtech] Piratebrowser?

2013-08-10 Thread Al Billings
In a WTF moment for me personally, a preconfigured Firefox 23 with Tor has come out from the Piratebay. http://piratebrowser.com/ -- Al Billings http://makehacklearn.org -- Liberationtech is a public list whose archives are searchable on Google. Violations of list guidelines will get you

Re: [liberationtech] Cloud hosting in Iceland

2013-08-10 Thread h0ost
On 08/10/2013 01:48 PM, Al Billings wrote: This seems a good week to mention a coop that some people I know, like Eleanor Saitta, are trying to start (I'm in the group, actually) to do various kinds of cloud hosting, especially email, on a server farm in Iceland. We're trying to gather the

Re: [liberationtech] Lavabit, Silent Circle both shut down

2013-08-10 Thread Arjen Kamphuis
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Ralph, On 08/10/2013 06:48 PM, Ralph Holz wrote: On 08/10/2013 05:37 PM, Arjen Kamphuis wrote: There are many high quality hosting providers in Switserland who do great work at a range of cost-levels. I moved my mailserver to one of them in

Re: [liberationtech] Piratebrowser?

2013-08-10 Thread Mikael MMN-o Nordfeldth
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2013-08-10 19:50, Al Billings wrote: In a WTF moment for me personally, a preconfigured Firefox 23 with Tor has come out from the Piratebay. http://piratebrowser.com/ I haven't quite followed the latest Mozilla security announcements (just

Re: [liberationtech] Piratebrowser?

2013-08-10 Thread Al Billings
Those were patched in the release *before* the last. In other words, no one running a current browser, whether TBB or standard Firefox, was vulnerable at the time of the attack. Only out of date users were. -- Al Billings http://makehacklearn.org On Saturday, August 10, 2013 at 2:32 PM,

Re: [liberationtech] Bill Gates on Project Loon vs malaria

2013-08-10 Thread Richard Brooks
Nadim, I think it is good that Bill Gates is working to solve health issues that have been ignored because the people involved are mainly poor and dark complected. I think freedom of information, though, may be more important than you think. Take, for example, The Gambia, one of the poorest

Re: [liberationtech] Piratebrowser?

2013-08-10 Thread lilo
On 10/08/2013 23:32, Mikael MMN-o Nordfeldth wrote: On 2013-08-10 19:50, Al Billings wrote: In a WTF moment for me personally, a preconfigured Firefox 23 with Tor has come out from the Piratebay. http://piratebrowser.com/ I haven't quite followed the latest Mozilla security announcements

Re: [liberationtech] Piratebrowser?

2013-08-10 Thread Travis McCrea
I know that Pirate Linux started as a Pirate Party of Canada project, however, I am unsure if it is still being maintained. Though anyone who would like to help us out we would obviously be greatly appreciative of it. On 2013-08-10, at 6:02 PM, lilo wrote: On 10/08/2013 23:32, Mikael MMN-o

Re: [liberationtech] Bill Gates on Project Loon vs malaria

2013-08-10 Thread h0ost
There are two big problems with Gates' position (at least). 1. The solution of massive social issues such as, famine and clean water, are definitely beyond the reach of single individuals. As wealthy as Gates is, his resources are nothing when compared to the resources of states. Thus far in

Re: [liberationtech] Lavabit, Silent Circle both shut down

2013-08-10 Thread h0ost
On 08/10/2013 11:37 AM, Arjen Kamphuis wrote: No unplanned outages in over 7.5 years with my provider. Another thing they do well alongside watches and chocolate ;-) (disclaimer: I have no relationship with any internet service provider other that as a satisfied customer) Hi Arjen, May

Re: [liberationtech] Bill Gates on Project Loon vs malaria

2013-08-10 Thread Tom O
In fairness to Gates, his main focus is tackling malaria and finding a vaccine for it. This is something where money is, in general, the main requirement for the most part. Famine, clean water, political instability are not easily solved by money. On Sunday, August 11, 2013, h0ost wrote:

Re: [liberationtech] From Snowden's email provider. NSL???

2013-08-10 Thread Tom Ritter
On 10 August 2013 11:43, Michael Rogers mich...@briarproject.org wrote: If we assume that app stores aren't going away any time soon, we need to address this problem: How can a user who downloads an app from an app store be satisfied that it was built from published source code? We might also

Re: [liberationtech] Piratebrowser?

2013-08-10 Thread Tom Ritter
For those interested, I'll point to the tor-talk thread: https://lists.torproject.org/pipermail/tor-talk/2013-August/thread.html#29331 This does seem very focused on bypassing censorship - not providing anonymity. The tiny FAQ at the bottom: While it uses Tor network, which is designed for