Re: [liberationtech] Designing the best network infrastructure for a.Human Rights NGO

2013-02-28 Thread Bill Woodcock
Ah, yes, those expensive man-hours. Security is so much easier when you don't give it time and attention. It also doesn't work. -Bill On Feb 28, 2013, at 8:09, anonymous2...@nym.hush.com anonymous2...@nym.hush.com wrote: I knew this was coming at some point. Yes I

Re: [liberationtech] Designing the best network infrastructure for a.Human Rights NGO

2013-02-28 Thread anonymous2013
Can we please get back to the issue at hand On Thu, 28 Feb 2013 13:16:03 + Bill Woodcock wo...@pch.net wrote: Ah, yes, those expensive man-hours. Security is so much easier when you don't give it time and attention. It also doesn't work. -Bill On Feb 28, 2013,

Re: [liberationtech] Designing the best network infrastructure for a.Human Rights NGO

2013-02-28 Thread Bill Woodcock
Sorry, thought you'd asked for advice about the best possible way to do it. Didn't realize you meant best possible with no time or attention. But, wait, that's not quite it either, is it? You meant that you don't want to invest _your_ time and attention, but you think people on the list can

Re: [liberationtech] Designing the best network infrastructure for a.Human Rights NGO

2013-02-28 Thread anonymous2013
Frankly your whats wrong with a small minority of the people on LibTech. NGO's have to balance cost, security, people, user needs, current infrastructure, software/hardware donation programs, man hours etc etc...Every idiot knows Linux is more secure in many ways than Windows yet sometimes

Re: [liberationtech] Designing the best network infrastructure for?a.Human Rights NGO

2013-02-28 Thread Julian Oliver
..on Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 01:08:54PM +, anonymous2...@nym.hush.com wrote: I knew this was coming at some point. Yes I am starting with Windows, it's more functional (awaits incoming) and costs less in terms of expensive man hours (the hidden cost vs software) for an Linux guru to run

Re: [liberationtech] Designing the best network infrastructure for?a.Human Rights NGO

2013-02-28 Thread Rich Kulawiec
On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 01:43:38PM +, anonymous2...@nym.hush.com wrote: Every idiot knows Linux is more secure in many ways than Windows yet sometimes other factors come into play that require the use of MS. No. MS is never required. I've heard that contention for decades and it's