Re: [liberationtech] EFF Resigns from Global Network Initiative

2013-10-16 Thread Joseph Lorenzo Hall
+1! On Oct 15, 2013, at 16:16, Jillian C. York jilliancy...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 3:36 AM, Joseph Lorenzo Hall j...@cdt.org wrote: On 10/11/13 9:43 AM, LilBambi wrote: I hope others may also consider making the hard decision to join EFF in leaving this group

Re: [liberationtech] EFF Resigns from Global Network Initiative

2013-10-15 Thread Joseph Lorenzo Hall
On 10/11/13 9:43 AM, LilBambi wrote: I hope others may also consider making the hard decision to join EFF in leaving this group until they can be more effective. It is scary to think that faith in a group of this nature can no longer be trusted because of government meddling. Frankly, I

Re: [liberationtech] EFF Resigns from Global Network Initiative

2013-10-15 Thread Jillian C. York
On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 3:36 AM, Joseph Lorenzo Hall j...@cdt.org wrote: On 10/11/13 9:43 AM, LilBambi wrote: I hope others may also consider making the hard decision to join EFF in leaving this group until they can be more effective. It is scary to think that faith in a group of this

Re: [liberationtech] EFF Resigns from Global Network Initiative

2013-10-11 Thread LilBambi
I am sure that was a very hard move by EFF after being part of this group for five years. Corporate members being meddled with in regard to their security practices about their internal privacy and security systems is no way to effectively run any civil society that is hopeful of keeping people

Re: [liberationtech] EFF Resigns from Global Network Initiative

2013-10-11 Thread Andrés Leopoldo Pacheco Sanfuentes
I believe it was The right thing to do, just like eating Quaker Oats. Best Regards | Cordiales Saludos | Grato, Andrés L. Pacheco Sanfuentes a...@acm.org +1 (817) 271-9619 On Fri, Oct 11, 2013 at 8:43 AM, LilBambi lilba...@gmail.com wrote: I am sure that was a very hard move by EFF after

Re: [liberationtech] EFF Resigns from Global Network Initiative

2013-10-11 Thread Andrés Leopoldo Pacheco Sanfuentes
yeah, but we have to go further, and get the United Nations HQ The Heck out of the USA http://gadebate.un.org/68/venezuela-bolivarian-republic por eso y por mucho más! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G--xIaMTSuc Best Regards | Cordiales Saludos | Grato, Andrés L. Pacheco Sanfuentes

Re: [liberationtech] EFF Resigns from Global Network Initiative

2013-10-11 Thread Ali-Reza Anghaie
On Sat, Oct 12, 2013 at 12:11 AM, Andrés Leopoldo Pacheco Sanfuentes alps6...@gmail.com wrote: yeah, but we have to go further, and get the United Nations HQ The Heck out of the USA If you want an impotent organization to be even moreso - then that's a good move. The problem is while all this

Re: [liberationtech] EFF Resigns from Global Network Initiative

2013-10-11 Thread Andrés Leopoldo Pacheco Sanfuentes
Yes, of course. BUT! Look at HISTORY Why did the US become the seat of the UN? And now, for THOSE SAME REASONS The US should NOT be the SEAT of the UN Best Regards | Cordiales Saludos | Grato, Andrés L. Pacheco Sanfuentes a...@acm.org +1 (817) 271-9619 On Fri, Oct 11, 2013 at 11:16 PM,

Re: [liberationtech] EFF Resigns from Global Network Initiative

2013-10-11 Thread Ali-Reza Anghaie
On Sat, Oct 12, 2013 at 12:23 AM, Andrés Leopoldo Pacheco Sanfuentes alps6...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, of course. BUT! *snip* Then the rest is moot - that's my point. Unless you can substantially change the behavior of the permanents seats of the UN Security Council - ~where~ the figureheads meet

[liberationtech] EFF Resigns from Global Network Initiative

2013-10-10 Thread Yosem Companys
From: pressl...@eff.org Electronic Frontier Foundation Media Release For Immediate Release: Thursday, October 10, 2013 Contact: Jillian C. York Director for International Freedom of Expression Electronic Frontier Foundation jill...@eff.org +1 415 436-9333 x118 EFF Resigns from Global