[liberationtech] French ISP blocks all web based advertisement, by default.

2013-01-03 Thread Bernard Tyers - ei8fdb
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Free ISP a French ISP with approx. 5M subs has blocked, by default, all web based advertisements being served to their fixed-line Internet subscribers. [1, 2] As a consumer, I would be very happy about it. As a Internet neutrality (whatever you

Re: [liberationtech] French ISP blocks all web based advertisement, by default.

2013-01-03 Thread Julien Rabier
Hello everybody, Just want to add some precisions : - Not all web based advertisements are blocked. Blocking is done with a blacklist of IP addresses. - It is done on the CPE level, not in the core network of Free. This story is quite shaking the french interwebs and i was like Bernard at

Re: [liberationtech] French ISP blocks all web based advertisement, by default.

2013-01-03 Thread Julien Rabier
Of course, for my first post on this awesome mailing list, I had to do such a silly mistake to invert opt-in and opt-out. To sum up : Acceptable with opt-out : No. Acceptable with passive opt-in : No. Acceptable with active opt-in : Yes. By the way, I take a moment to introduce myself : I'm

Re: [liberationtech] French ISP blocks all web based advertisement, by default.

2013-01-03 Thread Julien Rabier
Salut Bernard ;) According to the last news we got, it wouldn't be an IP blacklist but a solution based on dnsmasq (running on the CPE aka Freebox). We don't have any info on who is on the blacklist, but it's maintained by Free itself with little doubt. Oh sorry i wasn't clear ... Free's owner,

Re: [liberationtech] French ISP blocks all web based advertisement, by default.

2013-01-03 Thread André Rebentisch
Am 03.01.2013 19:30, schrieb Julien Rabier: My current state of mind is : - Is it an acceptable net neutrality violation if it's done on an opt-out basis ? Yes. The question is at which level it took place. Client-side filtering is generally no issue, including issue related to default