Re: [liberationtech] Here Come the Encryption Apps

2013-04-18 Thread Katrin Verclas
Unfortunately contradicted by the evidence that shows frequent partial (regional or specific lines) or (less frequent) total cell phone shutdowns. Happens all the time and clear to those who track this systematically. Sent from iPhone thus could have typos. On Mar 15, 2013, at 19:49, Maxim

Re: [liberationtech] Here Come the Encryption Apps

2013-04-18 Thread Maxim Kammerer
On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 4:04 PM, Katrin Verclas kat...@mobileactive.org wrote: Unfortunately contradicted by the evidence that shows frequent partial (regional or specific lines) or (less frequent) total cell phone shutdowns. Happens all the time and clear to those who track this

Re: [liberationtech] Here Come the Encryption Apps

2013-03-15 Thread Rich Kulawiec
On Sun, Mar 10, 2013 at 10:29:44AM +0700, Nathan of Guardian wrote: Glad to see such a great level of academic investigation and discourse coming out of this esteemed university. I'll give him a pass on rigor, as this is an informal article and not intended to be a journal paper. (Besides, I

Re: [liberationtech] Here Come the Encryption Apps

2013-03-15 Thread Maxim Kammerer
On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 6:22 PM, Rich Kulawiec r...@gsp.org wrote: Sixth, and let me encapsulate it as a principle: If you need a GUI to overthrow your government... you're probably not going to overthrow your government. That's harsh, condescending, snarky...but I think it's

Re: [liberationtech] Here Come the Encryption Apps

2013-03-10 Thread Ralph Holz
Hi, For some reason some cryptographers seem to perpetuate the idea that correctly using crypto is something utterly complex and should be reserved to experts like themselves, or at least require their solemn approval. This is not the case with cryptographers that I know (who I find that an

Re: [liberationtech] Here Come the Encryption Apps

2013-03-10 Thread Petter Ericson
On 10 March, 2013 - Ralph Holz wrote: Hi, For some reason some cryptographers seem to perpetuate the idea that correctly using crypto is something utterly complex and should be reserved to experts like themselves, or at least require their solemn approval. This is not the case with

Re: [liberationtech] Here Come the Encryption Apps

2013-03-10 Thread Nathan of Guardian
On 03/10/2013 05:15 PM, Ralph Holz wrote: In the sentence you quote, he seems to be taking the POV of end-users, who are unlikely to be able to deal with things such as GnuPG. Which he cites in exactly that sentence. I agree with him here - GPG is quite intimidating to the uninitiated. I love