[liberationtech] Internet is designed for surveillance

2013-06-26 Thread Yosem Companys
*From: *Bob Frankston bob19-0...@bobf.frankston.com The current implementation of the Internet is hierarchical in that we get IP addresses from provides and then use a DNS that is rooted. We go even further in requiring that we conform to conditions on our intent (AKA our use) of connectivity in

Re: [liberationtech] Internet is designed for surveillance

2013-06-26 Thread Eugen Leitl
On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 09:03:43AM -0700, Yosem Companys wrote: Where is the effort honor the Internet paradigm and move away from the presumption of hierarchy to a distributed approach that doesn’t assume that we must declare our intent merely to exchange bits? At very least we should move

Re: [liberationtech] Internet is designed for surveillance

2013-06-26 Thread Bernard Tyers - ei8fdb
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Bob, I agree with you on the whole but I'm going to argue some of your points. On 26 Jun 2013, at 17:03, Yosem Companys wrote: From: Bob Frankston bob19-0...@bobf.frankston.com The current implementation of the Internet is hierarchical in

Re: [liberationtech] Internet is designed for surveillance

2013-06-26 Thread Bob Frankston
To: liberationtech Cc: Bob Frankston Subject: Re: [liberationtech] Internet is designed for surveillance -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Bob, I agree with you on the whole but I'm going to argue some of your points. On 26 Jun 2013, at 17:03, Yosem Companys wrote: From: Bob Frankston

Re: [liberationtech] Internet is designed for surveillance

2013-06-26 Thread Lucas Gonze
. Bob Frankston http://frankston.com -Original Message- From: Bernard Tyers - ei8fdb [mailto:ei8...@ei8fdb.org] Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2013 15:15 To: liberationtech Cc: Bob Frankston Subject: Re: [liberationtech] Internet is designed for surveillance -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE