Re: [liberationtech] Modern FIDONET for net disable countries?

2013-01-27 Thread Jerzy Łogiewa
Also is easy for spam :( But now that I think, fidonet would also be easy for spam. Or (about my first idea) attacker could make many mails with huge attachments to destroy efficiency. -- Jerzy Łogiewa -- jerz...@interia.eu On Jan 6, 2013, at 10:57 PM, Rich Kulawiec wrote: I'll second this.

Re: [liberationtech] Modern FIDONET for net disable countries?

2013-01-27 Thread Nathan of Guardian
On 01/27/2013 04:48 PM, Jerzy Łogiewa wrote: Who have tried SplinterNet? It sounds like very strong activist tool and maybe works like as described. Unfortunately, it hasn't been touched in a year. Not a good sign. I think the idea is sound (using personal/local area network communications to

Re: [liberationtech] Modern FIDONET for net disable countries?

2013-01-27 Thread Ralph Holz
Hi, But now that I think, fidonet would also be easy for spam. Or (about my first idea) attacker could make many mails with huge attachments to destroy efficiency. I don't know SplinterNet - but good old FIDO was not spam-ridden. You had to have BBS access to post to groups or send PMs - and

Re: [liberationtech] Modern FIDONET for net disable countries?

2013-01-07 Thread Gary Garriott (ggarri...@internews.org)
: Sunday, January 06, 2013 4:57 PM To: liberationtech Subject: Re: [liberationtech] Modern FIDONET for net disable countries? On Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 01:21:38PM -0500, Miles Fidelman wrote: That's a rather intriguing concept, though I might look at starting from UUCP NNTP, or perhaps BITNET

Re: [liberationtech] Modern FIDONET for net disable countries?

2013-01-06 Thread Rich Kulawiec
On Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 01:21:38PM -0500, Miles Fidelman wrote: That's a rather intriguing concept, though I might look at starting from UUCP NNTP, or perhaps BITNET, rather than the FIDO model - the software is a bit more mature, and UUCP at least is still supported. Mobile devices could

Re: [liberationtech] Modern FIDONET for net disable countries?

2012-12-31 Thread Ronald Deibert
Hi Just to add to the data and conversation, we (Citizen Lab as part of our contribution to the ONI Project) did a few recent updates to our reports on Ethiopia, Vietnam, and Burma. These reports and the results are presented here:

Re: [liberationtech] Modern FIDONET for net disable countries?

2012-12-31 Thread Griffin Boyce
At HOPE this summer I talked a bit about a wireless mesh concept that would allow people to communicate without internet access or phone access. The real problem with a BBS is that it's trivial to take down. In most countries, one call to the phone company can suspend a phone number 'pending

Re: [liberationtech] Modern FIDONET for net disable countries?

2012-12-31 Thread Julian Oliver
..on Mon, Dec 31, 2012 at 09:38:08AM -0500, Griffin Boyce wrote: At HOPE this summer I talked a bit about a wireless mesh concept that would allow people to communicate without internet access or phone access. The real problem with a BBS is that it's trivial to take down. In most

Re: [liberationtech] Modern FIDONET for net disable countries?

2012-12-31 Thread michael gurstein
FIDONET for net disable countries? ..on Mon, Dec 31, 2012 at 09:38:08AM -0500, Griffin Boyce wrote: At HOPE this summer I talked a bit about a wireless mesh concept that would allow people to communicate without internet access or phone access. The real problem with a BBS is that it's

Re: [liberationtech] Modern FIDONET for net disable countries?

2012-12-31 Thread The Doctor
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 12/31/2012 09:38 AM, Griffin Boyce wrote: At HOPE this summer I talked a bit about a wireless mesh concept that would allow people to communicate without internet access or phone access. The real problem with a BBS is that it's trivial to take

Re: [liberationtech] Modern FIDONET for net disable countries?

2012-12-30 Thread Peter Fein
I some other Telecomix agents have discussed using a local Usenet (NNTP) for exactly this purpose a few times since Tahrir. Run it off a liveCD + adhoc wifi or OpenWRT, with web gateway interface (so random users can participate without needing to install software). Long distance backhaul by

Re: [liberationtech] Modern FIDONET for net disable countries?

2012-12-30 Thread Eric S Johnson
] On Behalf Of Peter Fein Sent: 30 December 2012 22.09 To: liberationtech Subject: Re: [liberationtech] Modern FIDONET for net disable countries? I should add that I've heard FIDONET is still used in some highly censored SE Asia countries for this purpose (Myanmar IIRC) - laptops on the back

Re: [liberationtech] Modern FIDONET for net disable countries?

2012-12-28 Thread The Doctor
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 12/27/2012 11:54 AM, Jerzy Łogiewa wrote: I wonder, is some FIDONET type service existing for countries where all telecom is disabled? Kind of sneakernet for large packets of messages to be delivered. There are a couple of projects like that