Re: [liberationtech] Safe app like Dropbox?

2013-01-10 Thread Gilson Schwartz
I did install Cloudfogger but after a trial I just can´t find my way out of the app. Any hints? Their Help desk was unsupportive after a first mail asking for help. Thanks, Gilson On Sun, Jan 6, 2013 at 8:35 AM, Brad Beckett bradbeck...@gmail.com wrote: Or better yet -- encrypt your data

Re: [liberationtech] Safe app like Dropbox?

2013-01-10 Thread Karl Fogel
Gilson Schwartz gilson.schwa...@gmail.com writes: I did install Cloudfogger but after a trial I just can´t find my way out of the app. Any hints? Their Help desk was unsupportive after a first mail asking for help. On the general topic of this thread: FileRock just got open sourced. I haven't

Re: [liberationtech] Safe app like Dropbox?

2013-01-08 Thread Julian Oliver
..on Tue, Jan 08, 2013 at 08:56:34AM +0100, Eugen Leitl wrote: On Mon, Jan 07, 2013 at 02:20:28PM -0800, John Adams wrote: On Sun, Jan 6, 2013 at 1:47 PM, Jacob Appelbaum ja...@appelbaum.net wrote: I generally agree that the data should be encrypted, though I think it should also be

Re: [liberationtech] Safe app like Dropbox?

2013-01-08 Thread Julian Oliver
..on Tue, Jan 08, 2013 at 08:29:08AM -0800, John Adams wrote: On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 at 11:56 PM, Eugen Leitl eu...@leitl.org wrote: Or, you could simply rent a server, and roll your own cloud. It would be trivial to script this outside of Dropbox's scope. It would be even more

Re: [liberationtech] Safe app like Dropbox?

2013-01-07 Thread Jacob Appelbaum
Jerzy Łogiewa: Hm Jake, can you tell more about this? Was this data publish? It was a talk we gave at the 23rd CCC Congress: http://code.google.com/p/vilefault/ http://arstechnica.com/apple/2006/12/6436/ All the best, Jacob -- Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password at:

Re: [liberationtech] Safe app like Dropbox?

2013-01-07 Thread Margaret Silver
I am trying to unsubscribe. I never wanted to be on this list. Please unsubscribe me. My email has been hacked. Thank you On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 at 12:32 PM, Jacob Appelbaum ja...@appelbaum.netwrote: Jerzy Łogiewa: Hm Jake, can you tell more about this? Was this data publish? It was a talk

Re: [liberationtech] Safe app like Dropbox?

2013-01-07 Thread John Adams
I have never had a problem with creating images via hdiutil, setting them to AES-256, and then using them on dropbox. Additionally, if dropbox is breaking files, file a bug report. I've met with their team multiple times and they're certainly willing to fix things like this. -j On Sun, Jan 6,

Re: [liberationtech] Safe app like Dropbox?

2013-01-07 Thread Andreas Bader
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Re: [liberationtech] Safe app like Dropbox?

2013-01-07 Thread Jacob Appelbaum
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Re: [liberationtech] Safe app like Dropbox?

2013-01-07 Thread The Doctor
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/06/2013 03:50 PM, John Adams wrote: Why don't you just get around the problem entirely and use Dropbox's storage for encrypted disk images? There are other ways of doing so as well. Media collections on blogs, for example. If you have data

Re: [liberationtech] Safe app like Dropbox?

2013-01-07 Thread John Adams
On Sun, Jan 6, 2013 at 1:47 PM, Jacob Appelbaum ja...@appelbaum.net wrote: I generally agree that the data should be encrypted, though I think it should also be authenticated and integrity checked before it is actually used. If this level of paranoia is relevant to you, then maintain

Re: [liberationtech] Safe app like Dropbox?

2013-01-07 Thread Julian Oliver
..on Mon, Jan 07, 2013 at 02:20:28PM -0800, John Adams wrote: On Sun, Jan 6, 2013 at 1:47 PM, Jacob Appelbaum ja...@appelbaum.net wrote: I generally agree that the data should be encrypted, though I think it should also be authenticated and integrity checked before it is actually used.

Re: [liberationtech] Safe app like Dropbox?

2013-01-07 Thread Uncle Zzzen
I'm a satisfied customer :) It's not as out-of-the-box as dropbox etc. because you have to get used to concepts like the url is the key, each file or folder has different urls for read/write and read-only access, etc. You also need to avoid leaking refer[r]ers (best is to install a browser

[liberationtech] Safe app like Dropbox?

2013-01-06 Thread Jerzy Łogiewa
Hello! Dropbox is completely convenient, but source is closed and I do not really want storing my data on their server. What other app exist? Anything truly open and support own remote storage, but working as: drop into folder, auto syncro happens on a supported platform? Thanks! -- Jerzy

Re: [liberationtech] Safe app like Dropbox?

2013-01-06 Thread Eugen Leitl
On Sun, Jan 06, 2013 at 09:49:25AM +0100, Jerzy Łogiewa wrote: Hello! Dropbox is completely convenient, but source is closed and I do not really want storing my data on their server. What other app exist? Anything truly open and support own remote storage, but working as: drop into

Re: [liberationtech] Safe app like Dropbox?

2013-01-06 Thread Brad Beckett
Or better yet -- encrypt your data with CloudFogger, it's free: http://www.cloudfogger.com/en/ I told DropBox long ago that encryption would reck havoc on their de-duplication and that people would continue to use it until they feel their data is secure. 2 years ago I asked for two factor

Re: [liberationtech] Safe app like Dropbox?

2013-01-06 Thread Moritz Bartl
On 06.01.2013 09:49, Jerzy Łogiewa wrote: What other app exist? Anything truly open and support own remote storage Apart from OwnCloud, there is also http://sparkleshare.org/ (Git backed) -- Moritz Bartl https://www.torservers.net/ -- Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password at:

Re: [liberationtech] Safe app like Dropbox?

2013-01-06 Thread John Adams
Why don't you just get around the problem entirely and use Dropbox's storage for encrypted disk images? If you have data sufficiently encrypted, it doesn't matter how it's stored. -j On Sun, Jan 6, 2013 at 12:49 AM, Jerzy Łogiewa jerz...@interia.eu wrote: Hello! Dropbox is completely

Re: [liberationtech] Safe app like Dropbox?

2013-01-06 Thread Jacob Appelbaum
John Adams: Why don't you just get around the problem entirely and use Dropbox's storage for encrypted disk images? If you have data sufficiently encrypted, it doesn't matter how it's stored. I generally agree that the data should be encrypted, though I think it should also be authenticated

Re: [liberationtech] Safe app like Dropbox?

2013-01-06 Thread Griffin Boyce
On Sun, Jan 6, 2013 at 3:50 PM, John Adams j...@retina.net wrote: Why don't you just get around the problem entirely and use Dropbox's storage for encrypted disk images? If you have data sufficiently encrypted, it doesn't matter how it's stored. -j On Sun, Jan 6, 2013 at 4:47 PM, Jacob

Re: [liberationtech] Safe app like Dropbox?

2013-01-06 Thread 魏有豪
Griffin, how is Dropbox making a diff of what has changed breaking encrypted files and truecrypt containers? Dropbox most likely merely works along the principles of rsync. If you have ever used encryption properly, you will realise that Dropbox uploads the entire encrypted container whether one

Re: [liberationtech] Safe app like Dropbox?

2013-01-06 Thread Griffin Boyce
On Sun, Jan 6, 2013 at 9:11 PM, Kelvin Quee (魏有豪) kel...@quee.org wrote: Being paranoid is probably a good thing on this list but spreading falsehoods OR unverified claims is something that we all should not do. Kelvin Quee (魏有豪) +65 9177 3635 Dropbox has broken every single truecrypt