Re: [liberationtech] CNN writer on leaving Facebook

2013-02-26 Thread Yuval Adam
On Monday, February 25, 2013 at 9:03 PM, Raven Jiang CX wrote: I think Sterling is suggesting that most people are not cognizant of this trade-off and that as Facebook does more with your personal information, that trade-off becomes increasingly disfavourable compared to the relatively

Re: [liberationtech] Looking for collaborators for free-range voting project at Knight News Challenge:

2013-02-26 Thread Rich Kulawiec
It won't work. Until the bot/zombie is solved, online voting is a non-starter, since any election worthy of being stolen can be. It doesn't matter what you do on the server side: you can construct as elaborate and clever and secure an infrastructure as you wish...because on the client side,

Re: [liberationtech] Looking for collaborators for free-range voting project at Knight News Challenge:

2013-02-26 Thread Ruben Bloemgarten
Irrespective of zombies et al. Voting requires the following basic elements : 1. verifiability when casting the vote, i.e. the voter can see that the vote that is cast will be the vote that is counted. This is not possible without a paper trail which is also a valid vote. 2. Counting control.

Re: [liberationtech] Looking for collaborators for free-range voting project at Knight News Challenge:

2013-02-26 Thread Joseph Lorenzo Hall
(most of the statements I make below can be cited... holler if you want some reading.) On Tue Feb 26 08:15:54 2013, Ruben Bloemgarten wrote: Irrespective of zombies et al. Voting requires the following basic elements : 1. verifiability when casting the vote, i.e. the voter can see that the

Re: [liberationtech] CNN writer on leaving Facebook

2013-02-26 Thread Michael Rogers
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 25/02/13 19:03, Raven Jiang CX wrote: I think a subtle difference is what exactly the bargain entails. In the case of television advertising, it's a relatively straightforward exchange of your attention for entertainment. Facebook is asking for

Re: [liberationtech] Looking for collaborators for free-range voting project at Knight News Challenge:

2013-02-26 Thread Ruben Bloemgarten
On 02/26/2013 03:49 PM, Joseph Lorenzo Hall wrote: (most of the statements I make below can be cited... holler if you want some reading.) On Tue Feb 26 08:15:54 2013, Ruben Bloemgarten wrote: Irrespective of zombies et al. Voting requires the following basic elements : 1. verifiability

Re: [liberationtech] Drones

2013-02-26 Thread Parker Higgins
The person who compiled that list is very active on the Stanford Drones list that Yosem sent around a link to just the other day. I haven't done extensive vetting, but I'm sure he'd be willing to explain how he came to his conclusions over there. Thanks, Parker On 2/26/13 4:31 AM, tata dano

Re: [liberationtech] Drones

2013-02-26 Thread Yosem Companys
Seems Al Mac, who compiled that list, is someone who became interested in drones and has become an expert on the subject. Al is now retired but previously worked full time at Kauffman Engineering as their computer support guy for ERP on AS/400. His posts on the drone list are very informative.

Re: [liberationtech] Looking for collaborators for free-range voting project at Knight News Challenge:

2013-02-26 Thread Edwin Chu
I would argue that voting backed by re-countable physical paper is more reliable than pure electronic voting in an official election. However, I think that an electronic voting is still very useful under some specific situations. In Hong Kong, the Chief Execute are not elected by citizen through

[liberationtech] CfP: Special Issue of Journal of Information Technology For Development

2013-02-26 Thread Yosem Companys
From: Niki Kunene niki.kun...@gmail.com *Call for Papers * ** * * *Special Issue of the Journal of* * INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY FOR DEVELOPMENT* ** *“Organizational ICT Issues in Developing Economies” * The objective of this special issue is to provide a forum for research focusing on the

Re: [liberationtech] CNN writer on leaving Facebook

2013-02-26 Thread Jon Lebkowsky
I want to respond to Paul Bernal's post about why to leave Facebook, point by point. Privacy: I think the problem is not a lack of privacy, but an expectation of privacy on the part of the user, who should definitely leave if she considers privacy important. If you don't want to be seen, by all

Re: [liberationtech] CNN writer on leaving Facebook

2013-02-26 Thread Paul Bernal (LAW)
Hi Jon Thanks for the detailed response - and I can see your points. Indeed, to an extent I agree with them! I'll try to do a more detailed response tomorrow, but just a few points now. 1. On privacy, I agree, it's more about helping get a more 'savvy' community than anything else. 2. On

Re: [liberationtech] CNN writer on leaving Facebook

2013-02-26 Thread Jon Lebkowsky
On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 2:13 PM, Paul Bernal (LAW) paul.ber...@uea.ac.ukwrote: 2. On real names, it's as much about fighting the bigger battle for the need to allow anonymity. If real names becomes the norm, we're in real trouble when the going gets tough... I think there's room for

Re: [liberationtech] Mexico's most vulnerable reporters lack digital security skills

2013-02-26 Thread Eva Galperin
I'm not sure that I would support ranking drug cartels as a less technologically sophisticated threat than the government in Mexico. While there isn't a lot of evidence that drug cartels have used technologically sophisticated means to track down anonymous/pseudonymous bloggers and journalists,

Re: [liberationtech] Mexico's most vulnerable reporters lack digital security skills

2013-02-26 Thread Nadim Kobeissi
On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 1:01 AM, Eva Galperin e...@eff.org wrote: While there isn't a lot of evidence that drug cartels have used technologically sophisticated means to track down anonymous/pseudonymous bloggers and journalists, corruption is sufficiently widespread that if my life depended

Re: [liberationtech] Mexico's most vulnerable reporters lack digital security skills

2013-02-26 Thread Roger Dingledine
On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 04:01:03PM -0800, Eva Galperin wrote: I'm not sure that I would support ranking drug cartels as a less technologically sophisticated threat than the government in Mexico. When we did a Tor talk for the US DEA in January, one of the use cases we explained for Tor was law

[liberationtech] cellebrite report

2013-02-26 Thread Jacob Appelbaum
Hi, Thanks to the ACLU for working hard on cell phone privacy issues: http://www.aclu.org/blog/technology-and-liberty-criminal-law-reform-immigrants-rights/new-document-sheds-light Here's the result of the search warrant which named the cellebrite company directly:

Re: [liberationtech] CNN writer on leaving Facebook

2013-02-26 Thread jam
Hi,Iwasn'tgoing to post on this topic but as it still has steam, I'm giving my 2 cents afterJon Lebkowsky last email [which I agree with].My main thing isparticipatorye-democracy, but I've been working on the privacy angle re social networks for a few years, and I've asolution, but its a year+