Re: [liberationtech] Cuba: 5% Internet penetration

2015-01-09 Thread J.M. Porup
On 01/09/15 10:21, Myself wrote: Also, very important at this time are the USG democracy promotion programs Ah, democracy. America's deadliest export. http://williamblum.org/books/americas-deadliest-export JMP -- Liberationtech is public archives are searchable on Google. Violations of

Re: [liberationtech] Cuba: 5% Internet penetration

2015-01-09 Thread Myself
Supporting the USG for helping Cuban activists connect to the Internet and check their emails is not ultra-right wing, it's the right thing to do. On Fri, Jan 9, 2015 at 10:45 AM, Andrés Leopoldo Pacheco Sanfuentes alps6...@gmail.com wrote: Myself, I believe it is also time to Change the

Re: [liberationtech] Cuba: 5% Internet penetration

2015-01-09 Thread Andrés Leopoldo Pacheco Sanfuentes
Myself, I believe it is also time to Change the ultra-right wing viewpoints when analizing the potential ahead for Cuba. The current status quo in Cuba Re: Telecom is not good, but neither is the Government sanctioned and subsidized oligopoly we have here in the US! On Jan 9, 2015 10:22 AM,

Re: [liberationtech] Cuba: 5% Internet penetration

2015-01-09 Thread S.Aliakbar Mousavi
Myself, No worries about future affordability. If telcos and tech companies expanded their services in Cuba it would expand competition and therefore makes those services more and more cheaper and affordable for the people and I promise you in that situation even nomads area can afford it. Let's

Re: [liberationtech] Cuba: 5% Internet penetration

2015-01-09 Thread Myself
Democracy = bad sounds ultra-leftist/communist to me. You can always move to North Korea, Cuba or Iran if you don't like it. Democracy gives you that choice. PGP http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0xA5BA76902CB232E3 On Fri, Jan 9, 2015 at 11:19 AM, J.M. Porup j...@porup.com wrote:

Re: [liberationtech] Bernard Maris among Charlie victims

2015-01-09 Thread Julian Oliver
..on Fri, Jan 09, 2015 at 04:02:44PM +0100, Andre Rebentisch wrote: Small world. What a terrible act of terror. Very sad indeed. He was a strong voice in the anti-swpat movement. My partner, a Parisian, tells me he was also a cherished and respected lecturer. While I'm here, I wouldn't be so

Re: [liberationtech] Cuba: 5% Internet penetration

2015-01-09 Thread J.M. Porup
On 01/09/15 11:34, Myself wrote: Democracy = bad sounds ultra-leftist/communist to me. You can always move to North Korea, Cuba or Iran if you don't like it. Democracy gives you that choice. America exports democracy the way Genghis Khan exported the right to speak Mongolian. How did Graham

Re: [liberationtech] Cuba: 5% Internet penetration

2015-01-09 Thread S.Aliakbar Mousavi
Myself truly states: Like Leopoldo says it's very important to exert pressure to open up the state telecom monopoly to new players. What few people realize amid the current excitement is that this window of opportunity will not last long. Historically, the Cuban government has negotiated with the

Re: [liberationtech] Cuba: 5% Internet penetration

2015-01-09 Thread Myself
Yeah, I see you have a lot of innocence... Consider the alternative exports of the super power that lost the cold war, you and your entire family could be in a Siberian concentration camp right now just for trying to connect to the internet you take for granted so easily. PGP

Re: [liberationtech] Cuba: 5% Internet penetration

2015-01-09 Thread Julian Oliver
..on Fri, Jan 09, 2015 at 11:34:02AM -0500, Myself wrote: Democracy = bad sounds ultra-leftist/communist to me. You can always move to North Korea, Cuba or Iran if you don't like it. Democracy gives you that choice. ...along with the choice to judge a book by its cover. Or not. I've heard

Re: [liberationtech] Cuba: 5% Internet penetration

2015-01-09 Thread Myself
Like Leopoldo says it's very important to exert pressure to open up the state telecom monopoly to new players. What few people realize amid the current excitement is that this window of opportunity will not last long. Historically, the Cuban government has negotiated with the USG, only to later

Re: [liberationtech] Cuba: 5% Internet penetration

2015-01-09 Thread Andrés Leopoldo Pacheco Sanfuentes
Cuba is NOT AT ALL LIKE NORTH KOREA. That is an ultra-right nutjob statement Best Regards | Cordiales Saludos | Grato, Andrés L. Pacheco Sanfuentes a...@acm.org +1 (347) 766-5008 On Fri, Jan 9, 2015 at 2:19 PM, J.M. Porup j...@porup.com wrote: On 01/09/15 13:04, Myself wrote: The only way

Re: [liberationtech] Cuba: 5% Internet penetration

2015-01-09 Thread Myself
Ali, I agree with you on this: encouraging telcos and tech companies (especially from the countries that Cuban government has less sensitivity on them) to get benefit of Obama's sanction waivers to invest and expand services. This could be a good strategy. However, there's a reason the Cuban

Re: [liberationtech] Cuba: 5% Internet penetration

2015-01-09 Thread J.M. Porup
On 01/09/15 13:04, Myself wrote: The only way to appease a bully is to fight back. I agree! Let's give a giant, collective middle finger to Uncle Sam, now, shall we? JMP -- Liberationtech is public archives are searchable on Google. Violations of list guidelines will get you moderated:

Re: [liberationtech] Cuba: 5% Internet penetration

2015-01-09 Thread J.M. Porup
On 01/09/15 12:04, Myself wrote: Yeah, I see you have a lot of innocence... Consider the alternative exports of the super power that lost the cold war, you and your entire family could be in a Siberian concentration camp right now just for trying to connect to the internet you take for granted

Re: [liberationtech] Cuba: 5% Internet penetration

2015-01-09 Thread Myself
This is Cuba, not Iran, Sudan or whatever, more like North Korea, just closer to the US. There's no competition, communications are a state monopoly called ETECSA controlled by a military commander. Regular Cubans earn about $20 a month and the government makes sure they stay extremely poor so

Re: [liberationtech] Trackography future

2015-01-09 Thread ɣęƈƞą
On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 7:12 PM, Francesco Vitali f...@futurevision.it wrote: Dear Claudio, Trackography project is very interesting, thank you for working hard on it and for sharing it with us. I highlight some upgrades I think you may introduce in the future evolution of the project. I’d

Re: [liberationtech] Trackography

2015-01-09 Thread ɣęƈƞą
On Fri, Jan 9, 2015 at 3:30 AM, Tim Libert tlib...@asc.upenn.edu wrote: I have scant details of my project on this site, but the general idea of webxray is to do fairly large analyses fairly fast. I’ll have some publications/research forthcoming which will detail it more. if you would

[liberationtech] Bernard Maris among Charlie victims

2015-01-09 Thread Andre Rebentisch
Small world. What a terrible act of terror. André FFII snip Bernard Maris, economist against software patents was killed during the raid in Paris: