Re: [liberationtech] The rigging of voting machines?

2018-07-19 Thread Sky (Jim Schuyler)
Joseph would you be sure to point us at some informed material on this issue? I'd really like to read about it, having been out of touch with this exact issue for a long time. In the Zetter article I see an admission of something that was done up until 2007, which many of us had read at the

Re: [liberationtech] The rigging of voting machines?

2018-07-19 Thread Joseph Lorenzo Hall
Even after a bit, I'm still not sure where to start, so I'm going to keep it pithy and I'm sorry I'm not dropping links (they exist so if you have a particular interest in any of this, please reply and I'll send a link or two). Thinking in this area goes back to before the disaster of the 2000

Re: [liberationtech] The rigging of voting machines?

2018-07-19 Thread Joseph Lorenzo Hall
That is a great point and I'll send a short review with links later today. Take care, Joe On Thu, Jul 19, 2018 at 00:25 Yosem Companys wrote: > Joe, > > No offense taken. But as an expert on this subject, you should suggest > some resources that list subscribers should read so they may be able

Re: [liberationtech] The rigging of voting machines?

2018-07-18 Thread Yosem Companys
Joe, No offense taken. But as an expert on this subject, you should suggest some resources that list subscribers should read so they may be able to sift through the media sensationalism. We're all experts at certain things and amateurs at others. Unfortunately, we all don't have time to do

Re: [liberationtech] The rigging of voting machines?

2018-07-18 Thread Joseph Lorenzo Hall
I'm quoted in the Zetter article, did my PhD at Berkeley hacking voting machines, have been working on this for fifteen years and this thread is already ridiculous after just two posts. Please take the opportunity to do your homework before thinking any of what you've written below is true. I

Re: [liberationtech] The rigging of voting machines?

2018-07-18 Thread Douglas Lucas
A crucial topic, thanks for posting Yosem. There's no reason to expect one's vote in the United States counts, given our corporate, proprietary, closed-source computerized voting. The standard should be paper ballots handcounted in public, as in Germany

[liberationtech] The rigging of voting machines?

2018-07-18 Thread Yosem Companys
Seems like an issue that goes to the heart of democracy and its survival in the 21st century: https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/mb4ezy/top-voting-machine-vendor-admits-it-installed-remote-access-software-on-systems-sold-to-states -- Liberationtech is public & archives are searchable on