Re: [liberationtech] The ultimate goal of the NSA is total population control

2014-07-16 Thread Graham Donaldson
Er... come again? On 2014-07-15 21:19, John Young wrote: This is a crucial observation and NSA cannot deny the deniability of its commanding superiors and budget axe-persons. One possibility which recurs in NSA history is that individuals inside will have the courage or opportunity to explain

Re: [liberationtech] The ultimate goal of the NSA is total population control

2014-07-15 Thread dan
The ultimate goal of the NSA is total population control This is not the NSA's goal. This is the goal of those for whom the NSA works even if their deal includes giving both Congress POTUS plausible deniability about just whose goals are whose. --dan -- Liberationtech is public archives

Re: [liberationtech] The ultimate goal of the NSA is total population control

2014-07-15 Thread John Young
This is a crucial observation and NSA cannot deny the deniability of its commanding superiors and budget axe-persons. One possibility which recurs in NSA history is that individuals inside will have the courage or opportunity to explain how this actually works, verging on virgin suicide. Limited

[liberationtech] The ultimate goal of the NSA is total population control

2014-07-11 Thread Eugen Leitl
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/jul/11/the-ultimate-goal-of-the-nsa-is-total-population-control The ultimate goal of the NSA is total population control At least 80% of all audio calls, not just metadata, are recorded and stored in the US, says whistleblower William Binney –

Re: [liberationtech] The ultimate goal of the NSA is total population control

2014-07-11 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
On 07/11/2014 06:36 AM, Eugen Leitl wrote: http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/jul/11/the-ultimate-goal-of-the-nsa-is-total-population-control The ultimate goal of the NSA is total population control At least 80% of all audio calls, not just metadata, are recorded and stored in the