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We the People Scoop
12/13/05
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that ?!
STANLEY NOTE: President Bush is
president of the government that has overthrown
the American constitution. He is not "my president". No president in my lifetime has been "my president". My oath is to defend and uphold the constitution, not the government that has overthrown it. I do not defend treason. I attack it. This time Mr. President, you will have to explain yourself. And NO Mr. President, there won't be a witch hunt this time to know who leaked your statements to Doug Thompson. It was their duty as loyal Americans. DID PRESIDENT BUSH REALLY SAY THAT?
By Pastor Chuck Baldwin December 13, 2005 _NewsWithViews.com_ (http://www.newswithviews.com/baldwin/baldwin271.htm) Internet news site _Capitol Hill Blue_ (http://www.capitolhillblue.com/) founder Doug Thompson wrote in his column on December 9 that in a private meeting with congressional leaders, President G.W. Bush was urged to take caution in implementing his new Patriot Act because it would potentially "alienate conservatives." According to Thompson, the president retorted by saying, "I don't give a g-d-, I'm the President and the Commander-in-Chief. Do it my way!" During that same meeting, Thompson quotes an aide as telling Mr. Bush, "There is a valid case that the provisions in this law [the Patriot Act] undermine the Constitution." Thompson quotes the President as screaming back, "Stop throwing the Constitution in my face. It's just a g-d- piece of paper!" Thompson said he talked with three people who were present for that meeting and that they all confirmed that President Bush called the Constitution a "g-d- piece of paper." Please understand, Thompson is a career journalist. To my knowledge, his news site only produces credible news. For the sake of this column, therefore, let's deal with the possibility that what Doug Thompson wrote was truthfully told him by people who were in attendance at that meeting. (No, Thompson did not name those persons.) Before going further, let's acknowledge that Doug Thompson is not a fan of President Bush. In fact, he is an outspoken critic of the President. But then again, it seems to me that he is an outspoken critic of most politicians. In my opinion, that's not all bad. But that's not the point. All that matters is the truthfulness of the report. If it's not true, Thompson must bear responsibility. However, what if it is true? What if President Bush actually said the things Thompson said he said? In that case, every American must bear responsibility! If President Bush said the things Thompson accuses him of saying, it is monumentally important! It reveals a side of G.W. Bush that has been heretofore hidden from the public, a side of the President that should cause all true Christians and all lovers of liberty deep consternation! If G.W. Bush said the things he is quoted as saying, it means that our President is not only the worst kind of liar but also a very clear and present threat to freedom! Remember that President Bush twice put his hand on a Holy Bible and took an oath to preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution of the United States. Such an oath carries with it the most sacred of intentions and the most serious of consequences. It is one thing for a president to proceed upon the conviction that his actions are constitutionally justified even though he is criticized for those convictions; it is another thing altogether for a president to feel in his heart and to verbalize with his lips that the very document which he swore and oath to uphold is nothing more than a "g-d- piece of paper." Americans must understand that the only reason (humanly speaking) that this country has been able to maintain a 200 plus year legacy of liberty and individual freedom is due to our respectful adherence (at least in principle) to the U.S. Constitution. To quote Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia, "I don't have to prove that the Constitution is perfect; I just have to prove that it's better than anything else." Amen. The Constitution is better than anything else! It is the most magnificent governing document ever written by man! Along with our Christian heritage and common English language, the Constitution has formed the glue which has held our republic together. Rightly did Daniel Webster say, "The hand that destroys the Constitution rends our Union asunder forever." If President Bush truly believes the Constitution is "just a g-d- piece of paper," he is capable of any attack against it. Yet, there is another revelation contained in President Bush's remarks, if they be true: his repeated blasphemy of God's name. It has been long known that G.W. Bush is a prolific swearer. That much we know is true. One former congressman told me of hearing Bush repeatedly use the "f " word. Most Christians would not want their children using that or any other swear word, but probably don't mind too much (sadly) that their president, even one who professes to be a Christian, would use profanity. But what about repeatedly using God's name in vain? Is that insignificant? To many people, swearing is nothing more than everyday communication. However, using God's name in vain is more than vulgar talking: it is blasphemy! The Holy Scriptures are very clear on this point. The Third Commandment is emphatic: "Thou shalt not take the name of the Lord thy God in vain: for the Lord will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain." Furthermore, Psalms 139:20 states, "Thine enemies take thy name in vain." We need to get something settled: George W. Bush (or any other U.S. President or Congressman) is not above the Constitution or the Word of God! And while we are at it, let's settle something else: those conservative Christians who would allow G.W. Bush (or anyone else) to trample our Constitution and our Biblical values have become idolaters in their own hearts by giving to man (any man) the kind of preeminence that only the Bible and the U.S. Constitution deserve! Did President Bush really say the things Doug Thompson quotes him as saying? I sincerely hope not. And if he did not, Mr. Thompson certainly owes his readers and the President an apology. However, if it proves to be true, will conservative Christians admit that everything they were led to believe about G.W. Bush was a lie, because indeed it would be?! © 2005 Chuck Baldwin - All Rights Reserved MORE THAN A 'PIECE OF PAPER'! By Geoff Metcalf
December 13, 2005 _NewsWithViews.com_ (http://www.newswithviews.com/metcalf/metcalf163.htm) “You've got to stand for something or you'll fall for
anything…”
Aaron Tippet and Buddy Brock wrote a song titled ‘You’ve Got To Stand for Something’. The warning to the lyric notes “or you’ll fall for anything.” I often say, “It’s not a question of WHO is right or wrong but WHAT is right or wrong that matters.” Different people have difference guidelines for determining what is ‘right’ . In this polarized/acrimonious/perpetual contact sport between left and right, liberal and conservative, democrat and republican, (demonstrated by Ann Coulters and Al Frankens), so much emphasis is put on sizzle, we rarely get to sink our teeth into the steak. It was disconcerting to read Doug Thompson’s _recent rant_ (http://www.capitolhillblue.com/artman/publish/article_7779.shtml) in Capitol Hill Blue in which he claims President Bush diminished and marginalized the Constitution. Thompson reportedly talked to three people who were in a meeting in which the President of the United States called the Constitution just “a goddamned piece of paper.” No, Mr. President, blasphemy notwithstanding, the Constitution is much more. The constitution is the essence of what America is, and for many, a yardstick for measuring what is right. From military recruits to congress critters to Supreme Court justices to the President of the United States, all take an oath in which they solemnly swear to “uphold and defend the Constitution of the United States." It is beyond hypocritical for someone to swear, “to preserve and protect the constitution against ALL enemies, foreign and domestic” and subsequently focuses on undermining, mitigating, or abrogating the very document to which they have sworn protection…in effect becoming a domestic enemy. Debate continues if those so engaged are guilty of fraud, perjury or treason. Since 9/11 there has been a lot of ‘talk’ about patriotism. It has been implied that to resist what the administration wants to do is ‘unpatriotic’. What was it Mark Twain said about “Patriotism is usually the refuge of the scoundrel.”? I don’t think/hope Twain meant everyone who embraces patriotism is a scoundrel but it becomes a challenge to differentiate between true patriots and politicians intent on using it as a tool to further a personal (unconstitutional) agenda. By the way, any effort to undermine the Constitution from beneath a mantel of ‘patriotism’ is oxymoronic. Teddy Roosevelt said, "Patriotism means to stand by the country. It does NOT mean to stand by the President or any other public official save exactly to the degree in which he himself stands by the country. It is patriotic to support him insofar as he efficiently serves the country. It is unpatriotic not to oppose him to the exact extent that by inefficiency or otherwise he fails in his duty to stand by the country." I admire President Bush for a variety of reasons…however; I am not a GOP sycophant who will defend the indefensible because of a myopic ‘us verses them’ group think. According to ‘Capitol Hill Blue’ when confronted with facts that contradicted his preconceived opinions, Bush said, “I’m the President and the Commander-in-Chief. Do it my way.” When an aide (as reported by Thompson) said, “Mr. President, there is a valid case that the provisions in this law undermine the Constitution.” Bush blew up and screamed, “Stop throwing the Constitution in my face, it’s just a goddamned piece of paper!” No, Mr. President we won’t stop throwing the Constitution in your face. You put your hand on a Bible and swore to defend that ‘piece of paper’. The reason famous conservatives like Phyllis Schafly and Bob Barr have joined with the American Civil Liberties Union to oppose overly ambitious plans for renewing the USA Patriot Act is THEY stand for something…and won’t fall for anything dictated by an imperious ‘Do it MY way’ leader. The USA Patriot Act is a sticky wicket and smarter folks than me are tasked with solving the challenges. * Is the Patriot Act a valuable tool for intel operators fighting the war on terror? * You damnbetcha! * Is it potentially dangerous? * Absolutely! * Does it represent a significant threat to God given, inalienable Constitutional rights? * Duh?!? * Ben Franklin said, “They who would give up an essential liberty for temporary security, deserve neither liberty or security.” * The Patriot Act personifies that admonition. The signers of the Declaration of Independence closed the document
by
affirming, “with a firm reliance on the protection of Divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.” The Declaration, The Constitution, and the Bill of Rights are more, much more than mere ‘piece(s) of paper.’ © 2005 Geoff Metcalf - All Rights Reserved ======================================================================
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