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We the People Scoop
12/21/05
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Weinert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, December 19, 2005 7:13 AM Subject: MUST READ PLEASE IRAQ WAR - THE TRUTH > NOTE FROM BOB: I have told everyone who knows me for years that the reason > we went to war against Iraq was to eliminate an enemy of Israel. PERIOD. > Well I am vindicated by the article below from the JEWISH MAGAZINE, THE > FORWARD. > > Attention stupid liberals, we did not go to war for OIL. > > Attention stupid Republicans, we did not go to war to advance freedom and > democracy in the world. > > We went to war because the Jews in the Bush Adminstration that are called > "Neo-Cons" wanted to eliminate Iraq as a threat to Israel. SEE MY BLOG > > http://NeoconsAreJews.blogspot.com/ > > > > +++++++++++++ > > > > > > http://www.forward.com/main/printer-friendly.php?id=7020 > > [image: Forward Logo] > [image: Founded in 1897-Published in New York] > > News <http://www.forward.com/main/section.php?section=News> > Bush Says Iraq War Is Good for Israel > By FORWARD STAFF > December 16, 2005 > > In sharp contrast to the growing consensus of Jerusalem's security and > political establishment, President Bush argued this week that Israel's > safety depends on democratization of the Arab world. > > "If you're a supporter of Israel, I would strongly urge you to help other > countries become democracies," President Bush declared Monday, in a major > address defending American policy in Iraq and his wider vision for the > region. "Israel's long-term survival depends upon the spread of democracy in > the Middle East." > > Israeli security officials argued the opposite view at this month's > American-Israeli strategic dialogue, warning that regime change and > democratization threatened to destabilize the Middle East. Israel sees its > security tied to regimes such as Egypt and Jordan, and fears that > democratization could turn those countries against Israel. > > "I am skeptical when it comes to the supposition that democracy is a > panacea. Not all democracies are good," said General Shlomo Brom, former > chief of the Israeli army's strategic planning division. "What about a > democracy in Egypt — let's say — which is governed by the Muslim > Brotherhood? Would Egypt then have better relations with Israel than under > Mubarak's regime?" > > As the American-Israeli debate quietly heats up, the Bush administration's > approach is creating fault lines within the Jewish community. On Tuesday, > the Republican Jewish Coalition took out a full-page advertisement attacking > the Reform synagogue movement over its recent call for the United States to > develop an exit strategy for the war in Iraq. > > Neither the Republican Jewish Coalition ad nor the Reform statement > mentioned Israel. But some pro-Israel activists and Israeli observers > criticized Bush's comments, saying they could end up fueling claims that > Jerusalem and Jewish groups pushed the United States into an unpopular war. > > "American Jews don't want American soldiers to be dying for Israel," said > Martin Raffel, > associate executive director of the Jewish Council of Public Affairs, a > public-policy coordinating umbrella group consisting of 13 national > organizations and 123 local community-relations councils. > > "Would Israel benefit from democracy in the Middle East? Yes. But so would > Europe, and America and the whole international community," Raffel said. "So > why would the president select supporters of Israel? Supporters of Western > civilization would want to see democratization in the Middle East, along > with Israel." > > Israeli experts voiced similar concerns. > > "It could put Israel in a very awkward situation with the American public, > if Israel would be the excuse for losing more American soldiers every day," > said Danny Rothschild, a retired major general who once served as the > Israeli army's top administrator in the West Bank. > > In a speech on Wednesday, Bush criticized anti-war opponents who would > suggest that America went to war for Israel. At the same, he and other > Republicans defending his foreign policy by linking it to Israel's security > needs. > > Senator John Warner of Virginia, the Republican chairman of the Senate Armed > Services Committee, recently argued in an interview with MSNBC that a > premature American pullout would "put Israel in a very tenuous and > vulnerable position." And a GOP activist, Bruce Blakeman, told the Forward > that Israel's security has always played a key role in the president's > thinking on Iraq. > > "The president realized not only that Saddam Hussein was a danger to > America, but that Saddam Hussein had designs on attacking Israel," said > Blakeman, whose brother Brad is a former Bush aide. "There was a concern > that an attack on Israel would turn into a regional war, with Syria and Iran > joining in on Iraq's side." > > While some Israelis and Jewish communal leaders worried about Bush's > remarks, Blakeman told the Forward that "concern for the well-being of > Israel is not confined to the Jewish community." > > "The vast majority of Americans realize that Israel is a strong democracy in > a region where there has been no democracy and an ally that shares our > values," Blakeman said. > > But several Israeli experts insisted that any pro-war argument — even a > valid one — linked to Israel's security could end up undermining American > public support for the American-Israeli relationship. And while most Israeli > experts contacted by the Forward predicted that an American withdrawal would > unleash a wave of terrorism directed at American allies in the region, > several still challenged the premise that the United States should remain in > Iraq. > > "I maintain that the U.S. presence there actually causes harm to some of our > interests," said Brom, who is currently a guest scholar at the federally > funded United States Institute of Peace in Washington. "Take Iran. America's > presence in Iraq does not allow an appropriate dealing with the Iranian > problem. It also erodes, over time, the powerful image of the United States. > That's not good for Israel, as an ally of the U.S." > > Still, Malcolm Hoenlein, executive vice-chairman of the Conference of > Presidents of Major American Jewish Organizations, said few dispute that a > premature pullout would create instability, threatening several U.S. allies, > including Israel, and several Arab states. "That is not to say that we went > to war because of Israel or we stayed at war because of Israel," Hoenlein > said, "but one of the consequences of making the wrong step of leaving Iraq > prematurely would be Israel.... I don't think that there is any division in > the Jewish community that I know of on that." > > A very public dispute did erupt this week between Jewish groups over Iraq, > with the Union for Reform Judaism and the Republican Jewish Coalition > exchanging rhetorical blows. At issue was the Reform union's resolution last > month calling for a strategy to end America's presence in Iraq. > > On Tuesday, the Republican group published a full-page ad in The New York > Times, addressing the Union for Reform Judaism and stating: "Freedom is > worth fighting for." The ad was signed by several prominent Jewish > Republican elected officials, former ambassadors, senior military officers, > rabbis and former senior officials with Jewish groups. The Republican ad > argues that it is "misleading and wrong" for the Reform movement to suggest > that "American Jews oppose the president on Iraq." > > By Tuesday evening, the director of the Religious Action Center of Reform > Judaism, Rabbi David Saperstein, had sent a scathing open letter to the > executive director of the Republican Jewish Coalition, Matt Brooks. The > Reform union's president, Rabbi Eric Yoffie, and its chairman of the board, > Robert Heller, sent a letter to Bush. > > "Respectfully but firmly, Mr. President, we want our leaders to tell us the > truth, the whole of it, and we therefore call on your administration to > adopt a policy of transparency," Yoffie and Heller wrote. "With regard to > troop withdrawal, we call not only for a clear exit strategy but also for > specific goals for troop withdrawal to commence after the completion of > parliamentary elections scheduled for later this week and then to be > continued in a way that maintains stability in Iraq and empowers Iraqi > forces to provide for their national security." > > *With reporting by Ori Nir in Washington, Guy Leshem in Tel Aviv, and Ami > Eden and E.J. Kessler in New York.* > > > Home <http://www.forward.com/index.php> | > Contact<http://www.forward.com/main/contact.php> > | Subscribe <https://www.forward.com/main/subscribe.php> | About The > Forward <http://www.forward.com/main/about.php> | RSS > Feed<http://www.forward.com/index.xml> > > Copyright 2005 (c) The Forward ======================================================================
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[LibertarianExchange] OPINION RELEASE: IRAQ WAR - THE TRUTH
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