Re: Proposition for LibreOfiice

2023-04-17 Thread Wols Lists
On 17/04/2023 14:15, Zetanos wrote: It is a petty for such a wonderful program to have these serious lacks, because the importance of LibreOffice in academic production is not to be disconsidered even if LaTeX and other alternatives exists. LibreOffice is largely superior in structuring

Re: tdf#140286 - CALC formula =INFO("OSVERSION") gives wrong output

2022-01-17 Thread Wols Lists
On 18/01/2022 00:20, Andrew Pitonyak wrote: On Monday, January 17, 2022 17:17 EST, Wol wrote: On 14/01/2022 22:24, Wols Lists wrote: > On 14/01/2022 21:26, Chris Sherlock wrote: >> I will work on a patch for Linux that parses /etc/os-release with a >> fallback to just the

Re: tdf#140286 - CALC formula =INFO("OSVERSION") gives wrong output

2022-01-14 Thread Wols Lists
On 14/01/2022 21:26, Chris Sherlock wrote: I will work on a patch for Linux that parses /etc/os-release with a fallback to just the kernel version if that is not available (virtually all desktop systems use systemd now). Are you sure? Okay, it's mostly the mad hold-outs, but Devuan, funtoo,

Re: tdf#140286 - CALC formula =INFO("OSVERSION") gives wrong output

2022-01-14 Thread Wols Lists
On 14/01/2022 16:01, Kohei Yoshida wrote: Hi Chris, On 13.01.2022 20:14, Chris Sherlock wrote: I would prefer the string to be in the format: Fedora 17 (Beefy Miracle) Kernel: 5.xxx (whatever it might be) This is close to what is returned for the Mac and Windows versions. To me that's a

Re: tdf#140286 - CALC formula =INFO("OSVERSION") gives wrong output

2022-01-13 Thread Wols Lists
On 13/01/2022 15:57, Kohei Yoshida wrote: On 13.01.2022 10:38, Chris Sherlock wrote: That’s my take also. But apparently, it isn’t important on Linux so we shouldn’t change it. Because no-one uses Excel on Linux, therefore they would never use this function if they use Linux. I wasn't there

Re: Are there ideas for client-server model.

2021-07-20 Thread Wols Lists
On 18/07/21 10:58, Stef Bon wrote: > > > Op za 17 jul. 2021 om 15:54 schreef Marc >: > > > > > I'm willing to work on this, but since Collabora has already > written an > > online server, is it possible to port that code to libreoffice? > > >

Re: Are my two Control keys different?

2020-06-03 Thread Wols Lists
On 03/06/20 08:49, Steve Fanning wrote: > By way of counterexample, the Calc keyboard shortcut Ctrl+F2 is intended > to be equivalent to selecting Insert > Function in the Menu bar and both > should display the Function Wizard dialog. However using my left Control > key, Ctrl+F2 appears to do

Re: LibreOffice and old Microsoft Binary file formats.

2020-02-03 Thread Wols Lists
On 21/01/20 23:56, Drew Jensen wrote: > Howdy, > > Today I worked with 5 different word processors (LibreOffice 6.4, > OnlyOffice 5.2, MS Word web, LibreOffice online and Google Docs, all > current and in use in the wild. > > Of those 5 only one still allows the user to save files in the old >

Re: Fw: benchmark of Excel, Calc, Google Docs

2019-12-09 Thread Wols Lists
On 09/12/19 19:14, Aditya Parameswaran wrote: >The idea of converting to SQL queries is an interesting one > but I find > it very hard to believe it would provide any performance advantage at > the same memory footprint. Furthermore - I'd be interested to know how > you

Re: Calc and auto-corrupt (again)

2019-09-29 Thread Wols Lists
On 28/09/2019 15:47, Terrence Enger wrote: > On Mon, 2019-09-16 at 14:58 +0100, Wols Lists wrote: >> I guess this is something to do with the input > engine, but I had some >> fun with formulae yesterday, > > Is there a reason why you are reporting this here instead

Re: Ram disk Scratch Space

2019-09-29 Thread Wols Lists
On 29/09/19 11:26, Jonathan Aquilina wrote: > Hi Wol, > > I have 16gb of ram. When I was on gentoo I was using 9gb of ram as a ramdisk > to help speed up compilation. You mention temp if its on the same disk aren’t > you going to have no gains in performance like that? > My reasoning was "it

Re: Ram disk Scratch Space

2019-09-29 Thread Wols Lists
On 27/09/19 14:28, Jonathan Aquilina wrote: > I’m not sure it uses as much as it needs I have seen it max out at > around 6.1gb I know on gentoo, ok that is a source based distribution, I > had around 9gb of ram allocated as scratch space which greatly sped up > compile times. And are your

Calc and auto-corrupt (again)

2019-09-16 Thread Wols Lists
I guess this is something to do with the input engine, but I had some fun with formulae yesterday, using LO on SUSE (so a pretty recent version). I tried to reproduce it on my old gentoo system so somewhat out of date, and got similar but different results. Put some data in a couple of cells,

Re: increasing no of columns to 16384

2019-09-05 Thread Wols Lists
On 03/09/19 14:36, Noel Grandin wrote: > >>What does Excel do for that ? (perhaps check names before columns or > something(?) or de-mangle and check names). > > No idea. Apparently Excel clamps old documents to 1024 columns. We may > need to do something similar i.e. have an option to

Re: Reveal Codes macros now works

2019-07-11 Thread Wols Lists
On 11/07/19 07:32, Uwe Brauer wrote: > >> On 10/07/19 17:54, Andrew Pitonyak wrote: > >> I would also appreciate having a copy of them to try. Unfortunately, I >> am likely to be highly critical, but then, I hope those comments will be >> helpful. > > Please take in mind, that Andrew is not the

Re: Reveal Codes macros now works

2019-07-10 Thread Wols Lists
On 10/07/19 17:54, Andrew Pitonyak wrote: > > On Wednesday, July 10, 2019 10:52 EDT, Uwe Brauer wrote: > >> >>> "AP" == Andrew Pitonyak writes: >> >> > There was so much static related to the orginal question, that I >> opted to simply started a new thread. >> > I was provided with a linke

Re: Reveal code, old macros convert them to LO

2019-07-07 Thread Wols Lists
On 08/07/19 03:04, Dan Lewis wrote: > One thing I do know: an .odt file is based on styles. The only codes > that are used are styles. This is obvious when looking at the > Content.xml file in the .odt zipped file. Word Perfect has a different > set of codes which it uses. I do not see any

Re: Reveal code, old macros convert them to LO

2019-07-07 Thread Wols Lists
On 07/07/19 17:06, Tor Lillqvist wrote: > > For the reference: we have a bug report since 2011 > https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=34002 > and the corresponding openoffice bug report from 2002 is linked in the > ticket... > > > Which should be a good indication

Re: Reveal code, old macros convert them to LO

2019-07-07 Thread Wols Lists
On 07/07/19 16:42, Dennis Roczek wrote: > > Hi everybody, > > For the reference: we have a bug report since 2011 > https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=34002 > and the corresponding openoffice bug report from 2002 is linked in the > ticket... > I notice the bug report mentions

Re: Reveal code, old macros convert them to LO

2019-07-06 Thread Wols Lists
On 06/07/19 07:36, Uwe Brauer wrote: > >> On 05/07/19 13:14, Uwe Brauer wrote: > >> And all I am saying is that the feature you describe sounds to me >> NOTHING LIKE reveal codes, and personally I can't see any use for it. >> The Word equivalent is "show formatting" which - like I said - was >>

Re: Reveal code, old macros convert them to LO

2019-07-06 Thread Wols Lists
On 06/07/19 10:27, Tor Lillqvist wrote: > > > The issue is, what if you force to deal with docx and you run into > problems? > > > The data structure inside a .docx has very little relationship to the > internal data structures inside LO, so it would be extremely hard to > display

Re: Reveal code, old macros convert them to LO

2019-07-05 Thread Wols Lists
On 05/07/19 13:14, Uwe Brauer wrote: > >> On 05/07/19 09:16, Uwe Brauer wrote: >> Sorry but that completely misses the point. If it's read-only I won't >> even bother to learn how to use it ... > > The point is: > > Since almost 10 years people are demanding such a feature and

Re: Reveal code, old macros convert them to LO

2019-07-05 Thread Wols Lists
On 05/07/19 13:15, Uwe Brauer wrote: "Wl" == Wol's lists writes: > >> On 04/07/2019 11:08, Uwe Brauer wrote: > >> And yes, I would dearly love to have reveal codes back - so much so >> that I am seriously considering shelling out for an up-to-date copy of >> WordPerfect,

Re: Reveal code, old macros convert them to LO

2019-07-05 Thread Wols Lists
On 05/07/19 09:16, Uwe Brauer wrote: "AP" == Andrew Pitonyak writes: > >> So I read your response to say... >> If it is a read only display them it is not worth the time to bother with >> it... > >> That is certainly easier than trying to make it work :-) > > I would say, read only is a

Re: Reveal code, old macros convert them to LO

2019-07-04 Thread Wols Lists
On 05/07/19 03:15, Wol's lists wrote: > On 04/07/2019 11:08, Uwe Brauer wrote: >> >> From time to time the question pops up whether LO could support >> Wordperfects reveal code. Sometimes it is stated that this feature could >> be implemented by a macro/extension. > > Bear in mind that "reveal

Re: Base without HSQL support?

2019-06-09 Thread Wols Lists
On 09/06/19 11:32, Jean-Pierre Ledure wrote: > The concept of "embedded" database is - at most - a nice-to-have feature. > > A Base application embedding in the same single file both the logic and > the data is 1. unmaintainable (a. You cannot prepare a new version. b. > You cannot use 3rd party

Re: Saving documents with broken zip streams (Re: minutes of ESC call ...)

2019-06-07 Thread Wols Lists
On 07/06/19 10:07, Luboš Luňák wrote: > On Thursday 06 of June 2019, Caolán McNamara wrote: >> On Mon, 2019-06-03 at 21:52 +0200, Luboš Luňák wrote: >>> Any idea what to do about that? Is it really ok that we just refuse >>> to save it? Or should we save it even though the contents may be >>>

Re: Principle of least surprise

2019-02-08 Thread Wols Lists
On 08/02/19 09:04, Piet van Oostrum wrote: > Wol writes: > >> On 06/02/2019 22:33, Piet van Oostrum wrote: >> >> Wols Lists wrote: >> >> > On 06/02/19 16:08, Piet van Oostrum wrote: >> > > Wol's lists writes: >>

Re: Principle of least surprise

2019-02-06 Thread Wols Lists
On 06/02/19 16:08, Piet van Oostrum wrote: > Wol's lists writes: > >> Dunno whether this is a bug or a design decision or what, but it's a >> pretty nasty breach of the principle ... >> >> Why, when I click on a cell, does calc NOT select the clicked cell? >> >> Okay, I know the answer - it's a

Re: [Bug 115747] Can't edit file on samba shares

2019-01-28 Thread Wols Lists
On 28/01/19 07:55, Kaganski Mike wrote: > Hi Thorsten! > > On 28.01.2019 5:32, Thorsten Behrens wrote: >> Kaganski Mike wrote: >>> My vision of this would me that if inability to create lockfiles >>> needs to be handled specially at all, then at maximum a warning >>> infobar telling that "no

Re: How to insert extra and hidden information for each element of document via LibreOffice API?

2018-07-27 Thread Wols Lists
On 24/07/18 12:20, MUNOZ JULHO Yupanqui wrote: > Hi everyone, > > I am working with the Eclipse Papyrus team on a UML to odt generator. > Besides one way generating, it should be able to handle bidirectional > synchronization between these two "worlds". > For reaching this goal, I need to map

Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Breaking News!... Help pages can be edited directly in gerrit.

2018-04-14 Thread Wols Lists
On 07/04/18 22:11, Martin Srebotnjak wrote: > Hi, > > just one example from Gerrit 4 hours ago: > "vector graphics;converting bitmaps" > was changed to: > "vector graphics; converting bitmaps" > See: > https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/52546/2/source/text/simpress/guide/vectorize.xhp > > Is

Re: remarks about development wiki / LODE

2018-04-13 Thread Wols Lists
On 05/04/18 01:24, Thorsten Behrens wrote: > Hi Dennis, I know I'm late to the party, but ... > > Dennis Roczek wrote: >> If this "tutorial" is for newbees, then tell them that Windows 7+ is >> supported, otherwise some might come with an old Windows XP or even >> stranger system. >> > Very

Re: Database migration in Base

2018-04-10 Thread Wols Lists
On 10/04/18 16:55, Jean-Pierre Ledure wrote: > Does this mean that once a .odb file containing an embedded HSQLDB > database is opened in LO 6.1 there is no way back ? That file cannot be > accessed anymore by a LO <= 6.0 user ? Is this acceptable ? I believe this is normal for a lot of SQL

Re: Design session about listing of fonts

2018-02-26 Thread Wols Lists
On 14/02/18 21:05, Caolán McNamara wrote: > As mostly an aside, but maybe worth mentioning to clarify how some of > this works under the hood, is that there is both "font substitution" > and "glyph substitution" going on. Font substitution is what's shown > here, LibreOffice asks for a font and

Re: Bug 83260

2018-01-10 Thread Wols Lists
On 10/01/18 09:26, Miklos Vajna wrote: > Yes, that's a known behavior, in the past I broke it and it created a > new redline every second, that was not funny. ;-) Can I just add, thinking with my user hat on, this can be somewhat of a shock to the user - principle of least surprise etc and "why

Re: Minutes from the design meeting 2018-Jan-03

2018-01-03 Thread Wols Lists
On 03/01/18 20:48, Heiko Tietze wrote: >=> questionable color names are gold, brick, magenta, indigo, teal, lime > opinions are welcome Does a pantone standard exist? Can we use it? If so, that would presumably make the most sense. From what I can see, Pantone define colours in both

Re: A proposal for separate English localization

2017-10-21 Thread Wols Lists
On 21/10/17 23:44, jonathon wrote: > On 10/21/2017 09:16 PM, Wols Lists wrote: > >> I think you mean users of the Scots language. Not to be confused with the >> language of the Scots. > > There is a dialect of English called Scottish English. It is a > combin

Re: A proposal for separate English localization

2017-10-21 Thread Wols Lists
On 20/10/17 19:25, jonathon wrote: > If users of African American Vernacular English want to create that > L10N, more power to them. Likewise, if users of Scottish English want > to create an L10N, let Bobby lede the way. I think you mean users of the Scots language. Not to be confused with the

Re: A proposal for separate English localization

2017-10-20 Thread Wols Lists
On 17/10/17 15:51, Toki wrote: > On 10/15/2017 10:44 AM, Adolfo Jayme Barrientos wrote: >> > Why is it only obvious to me that creating a separate “English locale” >> > (IOW, a complete copy of the source strings which would have to be kept in >> > sync and coherent at all times) is not

Re: ODFF1.2 interpretation of function WEEKNUM

2017-09-22 Thread Wols Lists
On 18/09/17 16:20, Winfried Donkers wrote: > Hi Eike, > > > I'm working on tdf112320 and I think that ODFF1.2 may be ambiguous with > respect to WEEKNUM > (http://docs.oasis-open.org/office/v1.2/os/OpenDocument-v1.2-os-part2.html#WEEKNUM) > > > My interpretation of the Semantics for Mode

Re: ODFF1.2 interpretation of function WEEKNUM

2017-09-22 Thread Wols Lists
On 18/09/17 16:20, Winfried Donkers wrote: > Hi Eike, > Hi Winfried > > I'm working on tdf112320 and I think that ODFF1.2 may be ambiguous with > respect to WEEKNUM > (http://docs.oasis-open.org/office/v1.2/os/OpenDocument-v1.2-os-part2.html#WEEKNUM) > > > My interpretation of the Semantics

Re: make install

2017-09-08 Thread Wols Lists
On 06/09/17 19:45, Eike Rathke wrote: > Hi Michael, > > On Wednesday, 2017-09-06 16:26:09 +0200, Michael Stahl wrote: > >> apparently you are trying to use "make install", which probably is >> unused and unmaintained; maybe we should remove it. > > make install works fine if one configures with

Re: Git commit adds ^M at end of line

2017-01-01 Thread Wols Lists
On 01/01/17 19:08, Laurent BP wrote: > I can remove these ^M in the patch file, but not in source files. Git *can* handle all this stuff automatically. It sounds like you've got some config setting wrong (although from your description I can't see how!). There are some special settings that

Re: Björn Balazs license statement

2016-11-01 Thread Wols Lists
On 01/11/16 19:37, Michael Stahl wrote: > may i suggest you actually *read* the clauses of the MPLv2 that Michael > has pointed out as being particularly helpful, and then think about what > risks accepting code contributions under other licenses lacking such > clauses would expose TDF and

Re: Björn Balazs license statement

2016-11-01 Thread Wols Lists
On 01/11/16 19:19, Jan Iversen wrote: > >> >> Piling in really late, I know, but forcing people to use a licence >> they're not keen on isn't really a good idea. > > Just a fast input, during the last year where I have been keeping an eye on > licenses, we have not had a single real problem. >

Re: Björn Balazs license statement

2016-11-01 Thread Wols Lists
On 11/10/16 12:51, Michael Meeks wrote: > So - the policy does have some basis in usefulness =) Although you are > right, we could take contributions under other licenses, it is really > non-ideal. And it is seldom an issue, having clarity is helpful. Piling in really late, I know, but

Re: Merging feature/commonsallayout branch

2016-10-24 Thread Wols Lists
On 20/10/16 05:14, Yousuf Philips wrote: > On 10/20/2016 02:34 AM, Khaled Hosny wrote: >> So that is not as bad as I thought it would be. We can have a runtime >> check for 5.3 that forces disable CommonSalLayout for Windows XP. We can >> then communicate in advance that we are dropping Windows XP

Re: Recommended build instructions ...

2016-09-12 Thread Wols Lists
On 09/09/16 18:03, Thorsten Behrens wrote: >> I was broken by McAffe - it broke git - the simple clone failed with a >> > permissions problem. We have a not-very-explicit "turn off AV" messaging >> > but >> > not in the LODE (or devcentral) pages, and we should do that earlier I >> > think;

Re: Tiago Santos license statement doubt

2016-08-26 Thread Wols Lists
On 26/08/16 18:58, Tiago Santos wrote: > Can I make LO licence statement now, or, once I make the statement I am > interfering with the base licences, and as such, I must wait until PAPEL > and Onto.pt author also grants a specific licensing change permission > for this project? You can't

Re: /usr/lib/libnss3.so: version `NSS_3.19.1' not found

2016-06-01 Thread Wols Lists
On 01/06/16 10:22, Lionel Elie Mamane wrote: > On Tue, May 31, 2016 at 04:34:33PM +0100, Wols Lists wrote: >> On 30/05/16 20:11, Anthonys Lists wrote: > >>> Just remember, a reboot WILL clear out /tmp with this setup, so your >>> build environment will not persis

Re: /usr/lib/libnss3.so: version `NSS_3.19.1' not found

2016-05-31 Thread Wols Lists
On 30/05/16 10:17, YuGiOhJCJ Mailing-List wrote: > It seems that my machine does not crash whereas currently: > * I got this line in my /etc/fstab file: > tmpfs/dev/shm tmpfs defaults 0 0 > * My RAM is 4GB > * My swap is 1 GB > * RAM + swap = 5GB > *

Re: /usr/lib/libnss3.so: version `NSS_3.19.1' not found

2016-05-31 Thread Wols Lists
On 30/05/16 20:11, Anthonys Lists wrote: > > Just remember, a reboot WILL clear out /tmp with this setup, so your > build environment will not persist across reboots. Even without a tmpfs, > the distro will probably clear out /tmp on boot or shutdown. Just struck me today - if you DON'T want all

Re: /usr/lib/libnss3.so: version `NSS_3.19.1' not found

2016-05-29 Thread Wols Lists
On 29/05/16 09:21, YuGiOhJCJ Mailing-List wrote: > On Sun, 29 May 2016 01:35:47 +0100 > Wols Lists <antli...@youngman.org.uk> wrote: > >> On 24/05/16 11:26, Eike Rathke wrote: >>> Hi YuGiOhJCJ, >>> >>> On Thursday, 2016-05-19 17:26:21 +0200, YuGiO

Re: /usr/lib/libnss3.so: version `NSS_3.19.1' not found

2016-05-28 Thread Wols Lists
On 24/05/16 11:26, Eike Rathke wrote: > Hi YuGiOhJCJ, > > On Thursday, 2016-05-19 17:26:21 +0200, YuGiOhJCJ Mailing-List wrote: > >>> Dumb question: how much system memory is available? >> I have 4GB of memory: > > That certainly is not enough and it will either grind your machine to > heavily

Re: Some thoughts about our tests and the build time

2016-05-17 Thread Wols Lists
On 17/05/16 02:14, Xen wrote: > Markus Mohrhard schreef op 17-05-2016 2:37: > >> I hope this long text gives you something to think about. > > Just as an outsider: > > Separating tests that are meaningful for a developer, and tests that are > meaningful for a builder, seems most meaningful to

Re: writing unit test for calc functions

2016-04-16 Thread Wols Lists
On 16/04/16 16:29, Winfried Donkers wrote: > One (personal) remark: deciding which use cases, which values, etc. to > use for unit tests is a bit of a vague area for me. Arguments can be of > different types (e.g. string, double, single/double external/internal > reference, matrix, single value or

Re: [libreoffice-design] Minutes of the Design Hangout: 2016-04-01

2016-04-11 Thread Wols Lists
On 11/04/16 10:24, Yousuf 'Jay' Philips wrote: > On 04/05/2016 05:38 PM, Wols Lists wrote: >> Just seen this - one little comment ... >> >> "Prefer graphical widgets in favor of controls that require the input of >> an exact value (e.g. an image’s transparency wi

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [libreoffice-design] Minutes of the Design Hangout: 2016-04-01

2016-04-08 Thread Wols Lists
On 04/04/16 12:21, Mike Saunders wrote: > Hi, > > On 01.04.2016 21:53, Jan Holesovsky wrote: >> >> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1XknvPqz58hYc_NeY2-Ky-L92MkLdYqs7SJCCxC3DX6w/edit#heading=h.rwnqe5haxk5v >> >> + hope to publish it the next week >> + please read it & review, will affect

Re: Broken master and newcomers.

2016-04-07 Thread Wols Lists
On 07/04/16 00:17, Norbert Thiebaud wrote: > On Wed, Apr 6, 2016 at 6:14 PM, Anthonys Lists > wrote: >> On 07/04/2016 00:08, Norbert Thiebaud wrote: Imho, IF we do something like this, we should use the git facilities to > create a shallow clone backup,

Re: [libreoffice-design] Minutes of the Design Hangout: 2016-04-01

2016-04-05 Thread Wols Lists
On 04/04/16 12:21, Mike Saunders wrote: > Hi, > > On 01.04.2016 21:53, Jan Holesovsky wrote: >> >> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1XknvPqz58hYc_NeY2-Ky-L92MkLdYqs7SJCCxC3DX6w/edit#heading=h.rwnqe5haxk5v >> >> + hope to publish it the next week >> + please read it & review, will affect

Re: alternatives to Firebird: sqlite [was: Firebird doesn't support MSVC 2015]

2016-03-10 Thread Wols Lists
On 10/03/16 08:51, Lionel Elie Mamane wrote: >> > Pick, now generically known as MultiValue, is an n-dimensional >> > database, and can be shown to be a proper superset of relational. > Sorry to be blunt, but as long as it can be used as relational through > SQL in a way that is close to the

Re: alternatives to Firebird: sqlite [was: Firebird doesn't support MSVC 2015]

2016-03-09 Thread Wols Lists
On 09/03/16 18:06, Lionel Elie Mamane wrote: > On Wed, Mar 09, 2016 at 06:59:08PM +0100, Lionel Elie Mamane wrote: >> On Tue, Mar 08, 2016 at 08:44:03PM +0000, Wols Lists wrote: >>> On 08/03/16 13:32, Lionel Elie Mamane wrote: > >>>> At this point, I'd say, even

Re: alternatives to Firebird: sqlite [was: Firebird doesn't support MSVC 2015]

2016-03-09 Thread Wols Lists
On 09/03/16 17:59, Lionel Elie Mamane wrote: > On Tue, Mar 08, 2016 at 08:44:03PM +0000, Wols Lists wrote: >> On 08/03/16 13:32, Lionel Elie Mamane wrote: > >>> At this point, I'd say, even more strongly than usual: the one that >>> will do it will decide. Up

Re: alternatives to Firebird: sqlite [was: Firebird doesn't support MSVC 2015]

2016-03-08 Thread Wols Lists
On 08/03/16 13:32, Lionel Elie Mamane wrote: > At this point, I'd say, even more strongly than usual: the one that > will do it will decide. Upgrading to a modern Java-based database > would maybe not be that bad after all... Sounds like I'd better get my finger out then! IF I can get the basics

Re: Firebird doesn't support MSVC 2015

2016-03-04 Thread Wols Lists
On 04/03/16 16:09, Andrzej Hunt wrote: > One issue that would need investigating is forwards compatibility - > which I discovered potentially doesn't exist between eg SQLite 3.8 and > 3.6. So maybe this isn't actually a good solution either, unless we'd > stick to one version of SQLite across LO

Re: Physics Engine integration for Libre Office impress

2016-03-04 Thread Wols Lists
On 04/03/16 09:12, Mayank Gupta wrote: > I'm concerned about it because 3D rendering would require more GPU > performance than 2D. Is this true? From what I keep picking up nowadays, pretty much the only place you'll find 2D hardware is in obsolete machines. The kickback everybody trying to

Re: Firebird doesn't support MSVC 2015

2016-03-03 Thread Wols Lists
ttps://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email_source=link_campaign=sig-email_content=webmail> > > > <#DDB4FAA8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> > > Jonathan Aquilina > > On Thu, Mar 3, 2016 at 6:50 PM, Wols Lists <antli...@youngman.org.uk > <mailto:antli...@yo

Re: Firebird doesn't support MSVC 2015

2016-03-03 Thread Wols Lists
On 02/03/16 12:12, Noel Grandin wrote: > > > On 2016/03/02 2:11 PM, Michael Stahl wrote: >> >> personally i'd be inclined towards alternatives that are less likely to >> trigger toolchain problems - maybe there's a SQL database implemented >> in, say, Java somewhere... >> > > Maybe even one

Re: java configure bug on gentoo

2016-03-02 Thread Wols Lists
do you login to gerrit, maybe your problem is the openId provider. > I used Yahoo. I was wondering that - it might be associated with Google, who don't do it any more ... > > Rgds > jan I. > > > Sent from my iPad, please excuse any misspellings > > On 01 Mar 20

Re: java configure bug on gentoo

2016-03-01 Thread Wols Lists
On 01/03/16 18:54, Wols Lists wrote: > On 01/03/16 18:52, julien2412 wrote: >> Anthonys Lists wrote >>> ... >>> So I've debugged it successfully in ./configure, but that appears to be >>> a generated file, so when I went to test it, it seems to have blo

Re: java configure bug on gentoo

2016-03-01 Thread Wols Lists
On 01/03/16 18:52, julien2412 wrote: > Anthonys Lists wrote >> ... >> So I've debugged it successfully in ./configure, but that appears to be >> a generated file, so when I went to test it, it seems to have blown my >> changes away! How do I fix ./configure so the changes stick? >> ... > > You

java configure bug on gentoo

2016-03-01 Thread Wols Lists
Just tried to build lo on my system and it blew up with "can't find java home" - the worst kind of failure in that it didn't succeed, didn't fail, but thought it had succeeded. So I've debugged it successfully in ./configure, but that appears to be a generated file, so when I went to test it, it

Re: Suggestion

2016-01-13 Thread Wols Lists
00123e3. What you mustn't do is convert some of them. Likewise, if you're given 12.3, 1.23, and 0.123 you then MUST convert SOME of them, to 12.3, 1.23, and 123e-3, OR to 0.0123e3, 0.00123e3, and 0.123. (Here's hoping I've got my exponents right :-) Cheers, Wol > > Best regards, >

Re: Suggestion

2016-01-13 Thread Wols Lists
On 13/01/16 18:33, Rick C. Hodgin wrote: > > > On Wed, Jan 13, 2016 at 1:24 PM, Wols Lists <antli...@youngman.org.uk > <mailto:antli...@youngman.org.uk>> wrote: > > On 13/01/16 17:37, Rick C. Hodgin wrote: > > Wol, I don't understand your objecti

Re: Suggestion

2016-01-13 Thread Wols Lists
On 12/01/16 21:11, Rick C. Hodgin wrote: > The values won't round. You misunderstand me. They shouldn't round. And based on what the user has selected, they > will display to the nearest power of 3 (10^(k*3)), or in an explicit > form. The default option will be to auto-range the values into

Re: Two svg import filters

2015-12-15 Thread Wols Lists
On 15/12/15 09:16, Armin Le Grand wrote: > Due to this situation I would propose to: > > - work on changing the SVG importer (a) to creating simple docs with > GraphicObjects containing the SVG as gereric format, not do own SVG > conversion any longer > - put thus created free time in

Re: Request for upload HSQLDB 2.3.3.zip on http://dev-www.libreoffice.org/src

2015-12-15 Thread Wols Lists
On 15/12/15 07:50, jan iversen wrote: > > >> >> Let's just drop all of Base in 6.0. Split it off into a separate project. >> Databases is a big enough area to have its own application suites. We don't >> include email, photo editing, music production, or electronic design >> automation in the

Re: ODF does not allow negative values in attribute fo:padding, but LO writes negative values

2015-11-27 Thread Wols Lists
On 25/11/15 15:53, Regina Henschel wrote: > Hi all, > > I have written https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=96066 > for the problem. > > The problem is, that the attribute fo:padding is based on XSL and OASIS > cannot change XSL. On the other hand, the wrong attribute values have

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Bugzilla: Adding new Status for 'abandoned' bugs?

2015-11-11 Thread Wols Lists
On 09/11/15 19:33, Eike Rathke wrote: > Hu? No. What I meant is have INSUFFICIENTDATA on the same level as > WORKSFORME and INVALID, a status attribute, not a status. So if a bug > was in status NEEDINFO for some time and info wasn't provided it can be > set to RESOLVED INSUFFICIENTDATA and then

Re: lessons learned from hackfests

2015-10-25 Thread Wols Lists
On 25/10/15 10:50, Riccardo Magliocchetti wrote: > Hello, > > during the next libreitalia conference we are going to host a 4 hours > development session. The plan is to help more people getting started > hacking on libo. > > Given such a short time frame how is this time better spent from your

Re: tdf#50916 : Calc : Dynamic column container

2015-10-14 Thread Wols Lists
On 14/10/15 02:08, Kohei Yoshida wrote: > Also, this will be an on-going process. This is not going to be like > "if you do A, B and C it's okay to increase the column size and no > problems will occur". Rather, we'll probably encounter lots of > performance issues that we'll have to spend some

Re: Jack license statement

2015-08-12 Thread Wols Lists
On 12/08/15 07:06, Jack wrote: All of my past and future contributions to LibreOffice may be licensed under any license, but not under the GPL or any similar copyleft license. The right to license my contributions under the LGPLv3+ is hereby also granted. /jack This is a legal nonsense,

Re: How do I start contributing to Open-Source community?

2015-07-07 Thread Wols Lists
On 07/07/15 18:57, Ashutosh Narang wrote: There's a hitch in my mind. I'm not a great programmer, I have learn't programming on my own from books and online vedios. So I want to ask that , do iI need to get a more in-depth understanding or should go along with learning while contributing.

Re: Licence to Convert Dictionary to Spell-Checker Dictionary

2015-06-30 Thread Wols Lists
On 30/06/15 00:11, Richard Wordingham wrote: One way of producing a spelling dictionary is to take the words from a near-normal dictionary and use them. Does publishing such a dictionary require the permission of the dictionary's copyright holder? If it's relevant, the dictionary was

Re: Changing mindset of core LO developers to the status of master -- was test infrastructure ideas appreciated ...

2015-06-12 Thread Wols Lists
On 12/06/15 09:41, Jacobo Aragunde Pérez wrote: El 11/06/15 a las 08:44, David Ostrovsky escribió: On Wed, Wed Jun 10 12:22:53 PDT 2015, Norbert Thiebaud wrot All that being said, none of that matter if the culture does not follow. no amount of CI can make people care.. what set the tone is

Re: Changing mindset of core LO developers to the status of master -- was test infrastructure ideas appreciated ...

2015-06-11 Thread Wols Lists
On 11/06/15 07:44, David Ostrovsky wrote: On Wed, Wed Jun 10 12:22:53 PDT 2015, Norbert Thiebaud wrot All that being said, none of that matter if the culture does not follow. no amount of CI can make people care.. what set the tone is the core developer group, the rest of us looks around how

Re: Changing mindset of core LO developers to the status of master -- was test infrastructure ideas appreciated ...

2015-06-11 Thread Wols Lists
On 11/06/15 15:23, Bjoern Michaelsen wrote: On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 05:09:08PM +0300, Tor Lillqvist wrote: So what happens if I write a patch that works fine on linux, so I apply it to master, and the Windows build promptly blows up ... Instead of master, read bleeding. Does that make it OK?

Re: Changing mindset of core LO developers to the status of master -- was test infrastructure ideas appreciated ...

2015-06-11 Thread Wols Lists
On 11/06/15 12:19, Tor Lillqvist wrote: Let's have a branch called lo-next, or bleeding, or something like that. I don't have access to Mac, and don't build on Win. How hard is it to push all changes to bleeding, and then either cherry-pick or bulk push all changes to master

Re: test-infra proposal: master-tested branch

2015-06-10 Thread Wols Lists
On 10/06/15 20:22, Norbert Thiebaud wrote: - a test auto-induced one: when a test is unstable and produce random failures based on circumstances... the infamous 'heisenbugs' and heisenbug can be a systemic/design problem or can be a real bug that is hard to trigger. either way these are not

Re: sourceforge hijack libreoffice page?

2015-06-04 Thread Wols Lists
On 03/06/15 12:14, Simos Xenitellis wrote: On Wed, Jun 3, 2015 at 12:58 PM, Sharuzzaman Ahmat Raslan sharuzza...@gmail.com mailto:sharuzza...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Libreoffice developers, I was reading news about Sourceforge is hijacking nmap page in Sourceforge. When I

Re: [GSoC] Reuse Mozilla's rolling update mechanism for LibreOffice - Weekly Report 1

2015-06-03 Thread Wols Lists
On 01/06/15 17:59, Nathan Yee wrote: This is the week 1 progress report of the GSoC bug Reuse Mozilla's rolling update mechanism for LibreOffice: Just chucking a minor wrench into the works ... I hope this has been thought about but ... will (all) users be happy with rolling updates, in

Re: problem with interpreting OpenFormula format in ODF1.2

2015-05-29 Thread Wols Lists
On 19/05/15 12:24, Winfried Donkers wrote: Hi, I'm currently working on the various FLOOR functions (all Calc and Excel variations) and I struggle with this phrase in http://docs.oasis-open.org/office/v1.2/os/OpenDocument-v1.2-os-part2.html#__RefHeading__1018610_715980110: If

Re: Popup dialogs

2015-03-31 Thread Wols Lists
On 31/03/15 11:38, Tor Lillqvist wrote: Other than that - if it really comes to not using any word-processing features at all, just type in your notepad equivalent and copy'n'paste to LO after you're done typing. Very good advice. We should resist feature creep. If somebody

Re: GSoC IDEA- AUTOMATED ERROR CHECKING IN CALC

2015-03-25 Thread Wols Lists
On 24/03/15 18:25, Markus Mohrhard wrote: As Eike mentioned that is not the idea behind this task. The task would be to integrate correct currency handling (that you show a warning/error when you try to sum across different currencies e.g. EURO + DOLLAR). For this the first requirement is most

Re: Bad Jenkins Slave?

2015-02-22 Thread Wols Lists
On 22/02/15 05:50, Norbert Thiebaud wrote: PS: Windows 2012 somehow ended-up with a 'ghost' directory that no-one could delete not even Admin ( Windows these days is so secure than even Administrator does not have the permission to delete files yeah that is the symptom: 'Permission denied'

Re: LO server leaves pipe behind?

2015-02-20 Thread Wols Lists
On 20/02/15 17:27, Jens Tröger wrote: Hi, Over the course of a few days I've spawned and terminated many soffice instances using soffice --accept=pipe,name=rnd_pipe_name;urp;StarOffice.ServiceManager --invisible where rnd_pipe_name is a unique and randomly created string. I just

Re: where do the canonical translations live, git or pootle

2015-01-30 Thread Wols Lists
On 30/01/15 12:01, Lionel Elie Mamane wrote: On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 11:32:20AM +, Anthonys Lists wrote: On 30/01/2015 08:30, Lionel Elie Mamane wrote: How about the git commit/push is made to*fail* for the developer then? Some git commit hook or something. The commit fails unless the

Re: Workflow between dev, UX and l10n teams

2015-01-28 Thread Wols Lists
On 28/01/15 01:59, Robinson Tryon wrote: On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 5:43 PM, Wols Lists antli...@youngman.org.uk wrote: Am I right in reading into this, that master is using American English? And if so, why? Seeing as LibreOffice is, at heart, a European program surely it should be using English

Re: Workflow between dev, UX and l10n teams

2015-01-28 Thread Wols Lists
On 28/01/15 12:07, Wols Lists wrote: 3) Who's going to step up to maintain en_US? (I'd love to help, but I'm working tons of hours as it is) The same people who are causing all the grief for everybody else by currently translating/changing all the strings in master? Surely there's

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