Re: [Libreoffice] [Libreoffice-qa] Java 7 support in LO 3.4.5

2011-12-14 Thread Stephan Bergmann
On 12/13/2011 04:59 PM, Pedro wrote: 3) Following the same logic, deleted the LOdev profile and now 3.5.0 also shows the same nice JRE needed message when executing the Letter Wizard instead of crashing. Similarly, when I re-enabled the extensions mentioned on 1) LO shows the nice JRE needed

Re: [Libreoffice] [Libreoffice-qa] Java 7 support in LO 3.4.5

2011-12-14 Thread Pedro Lino
LO stores information about a selected JRE in the user profile at config/javasettings_*.xml.  Can you verify that just deleting that file from the bad old user profile would already be enough to solve the crash? Yes, I can confirm that. I made some extensive testing. This problem occurs if

Re: [Libreoffice] [Libreoffice-qa] Java 7 support in LO 3.4.5

2011-12-14 Thread Stephan Bergmann
On 12/14/2011 11:41 AM, Pedro Lino wrote: LO stores information about a selected JRE in the user profile at config/javasettings_*.xml. Can you verify that just deleting that file from the bad old user profile would already be enough to solve the crash? Yes, I can confirm that. I made some

Re: [Libreoffice] [Libreoffice-qa] Java 7 support in LO 3.4.5

2011-12-14 Thread Stephan Bergmann
On 12/14/2011 11:54 AM, Stephan Bergmann wrote: On 12/14/2011 11:41 AM, Pedro Lino wrote: LO stores information about a selected JRE in the user profile at config/javasettings_*.xml. Can you verify that just deleting that file from the bad old user profile would already be enough to solve the

Re: [Libreoffice] [Libreoffice-qa] Java 7 support in LO 3.4.5 (was: minutes of tech. steering call ...)

2011-12-13 Thread Michael Meeks
On Mon, 2011-12-12 at 19:53 +, Pedro Lino wrote: Uninstalled Java 6 rev 29. Run LO 3.4.4. Executed File, Wizard, Letter. Reported missing Java Run LOdev 3.5.0 Build ID: f923851-7f15fca-1f1fd1a-ca8e46d-5bcbce4. Executed File, Wizard, Letter. LOdev crashed. Gosh; when you say

Re: [Libreoffice] [Libreoffice-qa] Java 7 support in LO 3.4.5 (was: minutes of tech. steering call ...)

2011-12-13 Thread Pedro Lino
Executed File, Wizard, Letter. LOdev crashed.        Gosh; when you say 'crashed' - it took down the whole office suite ? that is a pretty horrendous existing bug it'd be nice to fix. Yep. I would say so :) Conclusion LO 3.4.4 works like a charm but won't detect Java 7;        Right

Re: [Libreoffice] [Libreoffice-qa] Java 7 support in LO 3.4.5

2011-12-13 Thread Jonathan Aquilina
Conclusion LO 3.4.4 works like a charm but won't detect Java 7; Right there is no support there. Today I noticed something funny I am testing out Ubuntu 12.04 which is quite rock solid already. I have both the openjdk 6 and 7 jre and jdk's installed. Yet when running autogen.sh on

Re: [Libreoffice] [Libreoffice-qa] Java 7 support in LO 3.4.5 (was: minutes of tech. steering call ...)

2011-12-13 Thread Pedro
Michael Meeks-2 wrote Gosh; when you say 'crashed' - it took down the whole office suite ? that is a pretty horrendous existing bug it'd be nice to fix. More gory details: 1) If you install LOdev and no Java is installed, LO 3.5.0 won't even start. It crashes on the Splash screen

Re: [Libreoffice] [Libreoffice-qa] Java 7 support in LO 3.4.5 (was: minutes of tech. steering call ...)

2011-12-13 Thread Michael Meeks
Hi Pedro, On Tue, 2011-12-13 at 07:59 -0800, Pedro wrote: 1) If you install LOdev and no Java is installed, LO 3.5.0 won't even start. It crashes on the Splash screen while trying to load the Solver for Nonlinear Programming and the Mediawiki Publisher extensions. Removing these two allows to

Re: [Libreoffice] [Libreoffice-qa] Java 7 support in LO 3.4.5 (was: minutes of tech. steering call ...)

2011-12-13 Thread Michael Meeks
On Tue, 2011-12-13 at 16:39 +, Michael Meeks wrote: On Tue, 2011-12-13 at 07:59 -0800, Pedro wrote: 1) If you install LOdev and no Java is installed, LO 3.5.0 won't even start. It crashes on the Splash screen while trying to load the Solver for Nonlinear Programming and the Mediawiki

Re: [Libreoffice] [Libreoffice-qa] Java 7 support in LO 3.4.5 (was: minutes of tech. steering call ...)

2011-12-13 Thread Pedro
Michael Meeks-2 wrote Most odd - can you file a bug with more specific details we can continue the discussion there ? can you try from an empty user profile etc. ? :-) I'm confused. I did try an empty profile and reported all the details on the email you are quoting... Did you

Re: [Libreoffice] [Libreoffice-qa] Java 7 support in LO 3.4.5 (was: minutes of tech. steering call ...)

2011-12-12 Thread Pedro Lino
Hi all Would be great if somebody could check Java 7 more thoroughly, for both upcoming LO 3.4.5 and 3.5. Some findings about Java 7 under Win XP Pro x86 SP3: Uninstalled Java 6 rev 29. Run LO 3.4.4. Executed File, Wizard, Letter. Reported missing Java Run LOdev 3.5.0 Build ID:

Re: [Libreoffice] [Libreoffice-qa] Java 7 support in LO 3.4.5 (was: minutes of tech. steering call ...)

2011-12-09 Thread Pedro Lino
Support for Java 7 (both Linux and Windows) is now also enabled for the upcoming LO 3.4.5.  I just checked on Linux that a JRE 1.7.0_01 can be enabled on the Tools - Options... - LibreOffice - Java tab page, and that File - Wizards - Letter... (which uses Java) looks reasonable. Would

Re: [Libreoffice] [Libreoffice-qa] Java 7 support in LO 3.4.5 (was: minutes of tech. steering call ...)

2011-12-09 Thread Tor Lillqvist
I'm new to this QA system, but wouldn't it be useful to know when (date/time) this was added? Added where? You need to realise that we use a *distributed* version control system, git, and time stamps are not important, as far as I understand it. Sure, in our case there are central repositories

Re: [Libreoffice] [Libreoffice-qa] Java 7 support in LO 3.4.5 (was: minutes of tech. steering call ...)

2011-12-09 Thread Michael Meeks
Hi Pedro, On Fri, 2011-12-09 at 10:05 +, Pedro Lino wrote: Would be great if somebody could check Java 7 more thoroughly, for both upcoming LO 3.4.5 and 3.5. ... There isn't a 3.4.5 branch yet so I assume this can be tested on the master ? The latest Win daily is from Dec 7th so it

Re: [Libreoffice] [Libreoffice-qa] Java 7 support in LO 3.4.5 (was: minutes of tech. steering call ...)

2011-12-09 Thread Pedro Lino
Hi Tor, all Thank you for all the replies Added where? You need to realise that we use a *distributed* version control system, git, and time stamps are not important, as far as I understand it. Yes, I do realize. They still are important if you are using daily builds from the central

Re: [Libreoffice] [Libreoffice-qa] Java 7 support in LO 3.4.5 (was: minutes of tech. steering call ...)

2011-12-09 Thread Pedro Lino
Hi Michael There isn't a 3.4.5 branch yet so I assume this can be tested on the master ? The latest Win daily is from Dec 7th so it probably doesn't include that fix?        Yes - you can test either on master or a libreoffice-3-4 build (RC1 will be coming next week or so I think).

Re: [Libreoffice] [Libreoffice-qa] Java 7 support in LO 3.4.5 (was: minutes of tech. steering call ...)

2011-12-09 Thread Tor Lillqvist
I'm interest in the time a change was committed to the central repository by a developer But developers don't commit to the central repository. They commit to their local clones of it, and then at some (much) later stage push outstanding commits to the central repository. And then there are

Re: [Libreoffice] [Libreoffice-qa] Java 7 support in LO 3.4.5 (was: minutes of tech. steering call ...)

2011-12-09 Thread Pedro Lino
But developers don't commit to the central repository. They commit to their local clones of it, and then at some (much) later stage push outstanding commits to the central repository. And then there are feature branches and merges... Ok. Wrong wording. What I meant was the time a change was

Re: [Libreoffice] [Libreoffice-qa] Java 7 support in LO 3.4.5 (was: minutes of tech. steering call ...)

2011-12-09 Thread Norbert Thiebaud
On Fri, Dec 9, 2011 at 5:20 AM, Pedro Lino pedl...@gmail.com wrote: But developers don't commit to the central repository. They commit to their local clones of it, and then at some (much) later stage push outstanding commits to the central repository. And then there are feature branches and

Re: [Libreoffice] [Libreoffice-qa] Java 7 support in LO 3.4.5 (was: minutes of tech. steering call ...)

2011-12-09 Thread Pedro Lino
Hi Norbert the problem is that this 'time' is not recorded anywhere. git does not keep track of it. I have the pull time because the tinderbox code was kindly modified to provide a log file for each build E.g.

Re: [Libreoffice] [Libreoffice-qa] Java 7 support in LO 3.4.5 (was: minutes of tech. steering call ...)

2011-12-09 Thread Norbert Thiebaud
On Fri, Dec 9, 2011 at 1:23 PM, Pedro Lino pedl...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Norbert the problem is that this 'time' is not recorded anywhere. git does not keep track of it. I have the pull time because the tinderbox code was kindly modified to provide a log file for each build E.g.

Re: [Libreoffice] [Libreoffice-qa] Java 7 support in LO 3.4.5 (was: minutes of tech. steering call ...)

2011-12-09 Thread Pedro Lino
I know, I did it... but you don't have a 'push time' :) Thank you, then :) Why do I need to know the push time? Any commits that were pushed into Central repository before time X are included in the source that is pulled after time X... I think? And Petr Vladek has suggested that this info

Re: [Libreoffice] [Libreoffice-qa] Java 7 support in LO 3.4.5 (was: minutes of tech. steering call ...)

2011-12-09 Thread Norbert Thiebaud
On Fri, Dec 9, 2011 at 1:55 PM, Pedro Lino pedl...@gmail.com wrote: I know, I did it... but you don't have a 'push time' :) Thank you, then :) Why do I need to know the push time? Any commits that were pushed into Central repository before time X are included in the source that is pulled

Re: [Libreoffice] [Libreoffice-qa] Java 7 support in LO 3.4.5 (was: minutes of tech. steering call ...)

2011-12-09 Thread Pedro Lino
sure. but then how do you known 'when' a given fix was pushed ? (and bear in mind timezone :-)) Ah, yes! You were talking about the fix pushes. With your script? :) for dailies: to download it you already have all that info since otherwise you would not have found the file to start with.

Re: [Libreoffice] [Libreoffice-qa] Java 7 support in LO 3.4.5 (was: minutes of tech. steering call ...)

2011-12-09 Thread Lionel Elie Mamane
On Fri, Dec 09, 2011 at 02:13:12PM -0600, Norbert Thiebaud wrote: On Fri, Dec 9, 2011 at 1:55 PM, Pedro Lino pedl...@gmail.com wrote: I know, I did it... but you don't have a 'push time' :) Thank you, then :) Why do I need to know the push time? Any commits that were pushed into Central

Re: [Libreoffice] [Libreoffice-qa] Java 7 support in LO 3.4.5 (was: minutes of tech. steering call ...)

2011-12-09 Thread Bjoern Michaelsen
Hi, On Fri, Dec 09, 2011 at 11:36:47PM +0100, Lionel Elie Mamane wrote: So, really, rather than time at which the tinderbox pulled, I argue that recorded commit time of the HEAD node is a better identifier to put in tarball names, about boxes, etc. It is really (within a branch) a proper

Re: [Libreoffice] [Libreoffice-qa] Java 7 support in LO 3.4.5 (was: minutes of tech. steering call ...)

2011-12-09 Thread Lionel Elie Mamane
On Sat, Dec 10, 2011 at 12:04:36AM +0100, Bjoern Michaelsen wrote: On Fri, Dec 09, 2011 at 11:36:47PM +0100, Lionel Elie Mamane wrote: So, really, rather than time at which the tinderbox pulled, I argue that recorded commit time of the HEAD node is a better identifier to put in tarball

Re: [Libreoffice] [Libreoffice-qa] Java 7 support in LO 3.4.5 (was: minutes of tech. steering call ...)

2011-12-09 Thread Norbert Thiebaud
On Fri, Dec 9, 2011 at 5:04 PM, Bjoern Michaelsen bjoern.michael...@canonical.com wrote: Hi, Timesstamps are _not_ a valid reference to a source tree or order in DSCM.(*) Never. Not even on Sunday in moonlight. The only valid reference is the commit-id. IMHO this should really end the

Re: [Libreoffice] [Libreoffice-qa] Java 7 support in LO 3.4.5 (was: minutes of tech. steering call ...)

2011-12-09 Thread Pedro Lino
We are not speaking about putting *only* the timestamp(s) as *only* identifier, only to give them as an added information for human convenience, not as things scripts would use as unique identifier. That is exactly the point. Quoting a previous answer to Norbert it is less reliable and at

Re: [Libreoffice] [Libreoffice-qa] Java 7 support in LO 3.4.5 (was: minutes of tech. steering call ...)

2011-12-09 Thread Bjoern Michaelsen
On Sat, Dec 10, 2011 at 12:01:05AM +, Pedro Lino wrote: at best redundant with the git-sha... Redundant is good! And at best redundant is _not_ good. Esp. if it can be misunderstood by nontechnical users. Best, Bjoern ___ LibreOffice mailing

Re: [Libreoffice] [Libreoffice-qa] Java 7 support in LO 3.4.5 (was: minutes of tech. steering call ...)

2011-12-09 Thread Norbert Thiebaud
On Fri, Dec 9, 2011 at 6:14 PM, Bjoern Michaelsen bjoern.michael...@canonical.com wrote: On Sat, Dec 10, 2011 at 12:01:05AM +, Pedro Lino wrote: at best redundant with the git-sha... Redundant is good! And at best redundant is _not_ good. Esp. if it can be misunderstood by nontechnical

Re: [Libreoffice] LibreOffice and Java

2010-11-03 Thread Tor Lillqvist
What about the existing Java extensions? Quite a lot of people are using Java to either writer extensions or use UNO Java bridge from an external application. How hard would it be to do AOT compilation of the Java bytecode of such extensions (and the needed JRE and OOo/LO glue classes), and

Re: [Libreoffice] LibreOffice and Java

2010-11-03 Thread Caolán McNamara
On Tue, 2010-11-02 at 14:30 +0100, Cedric Bosdonnat wrote: On Tue, 2010-11-02 at 12:47 +, Michael Meeks wrote: Quite; cf. such uncertainty - it probably makes considerable sense to look into a migration strategy from Java to (insert anything else). Some candidates might be python

Re: [Libreoffice] LibreOffice and Java

2010-11-03 Thread Tor Lillqvist
Rather than clumsily trying to convert Java-.net/mono I would rather allow to have people write in those languages in the first place. Sure. I was dreaming (having nightmares?) of converting compiled Java class files to .NET assemblies... The source code for them would thus still continue to

Re: [Libreoffice] LibreOffice and Java

2010-11-03 Thread Jani Monoses
On 11/03/2010 04:06 PM, Caolán McNamara wrote: On Tue, 2010-11-02 at 14:30 +0100, Cedric Bosdonnat wrote: On Tue, 2010-11-02 at 12:47 +, Michael Meeks wrote: Quite; cf. such uncertainty - it probably makes considerable sense to look into a migration strategy from Java to (insert

Re: [Libreoffice] LibreOffice and Java

2010-11-03 Thread Michael Meeks
On Wed, 2010-11-03 at 07:50 -0600, Tor Lillqvist wrote: Another even wilder idea would be to translate the Java bytecode to .NET bytecode for the Windows case... I suspect at this point the external pundits start screaming all at once ;-) So - I would prefer using python, or native

Re: [Libreoffice] LibreOffice and Java

2010-11-02 Thread Caolán McNamara
On Wed, 2010-10-20 at 01:50 +0200, Cesare Leonardi wrote: Hi all. There's a thing not clear to me and that involved go-oo too: the relationship between LibreOffice and Java. Here i'm referring to the Windows environment but under Linux/Mac should be the same. Java isn't provided

Re: [Libreoffice] LibreOffice and Java

2010-11-02 Thread Cedric Bosdonnat
On Tue, 2010-11-02 at 12:47 +, Michael Meeks wrote: Quite; cf. such uncertainty - it probably makes considerable sense to look into a migration strategy from Java to (insert anything else). Some candidates might be python for the more scripty pieces (though I hate non-typed

[Libreoffice] LibreOffice and Java

2010-10-19 Thread Cesare Leonardi
Hi all. There's a thing not clear to me and that involved go-oo too: the relationship between LibreOffice and Java. Here i'm referring to the Windows environment but under Linux/Mac should be the same. Is it Java a requirements or it is considered an optional component? If Java isn't