Re: [Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...

2012-07-03 Thread Michael Meeks
On Mon, 2012-07-02 at 18:35 +0200, Lionel Elie Mamane wrote: On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 09:56:32AM +0100, Michael Meeks wrote: * CXX0X-ABI incompatibility can of worms (Bjoern) + gcc 4.7 - cxx0x extension is binary incompatible + incompatible stdlib symbols that bust

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...

2012-07-02 Thread Rainer Bielefeld
Michael Meeks schrieb: We could use whiteboard for that I guess; Hi, alternatively I would prefer a new Keyword because we already use Whiteboard very intensively. Best Regards Rainer ___ LibreOffice mailing list

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...

2012-07-02 Thread Bjoern Michaelsen
On Mon, Jul 02, 2012 at 06:35:59PM +0200, Lionel Elie Mamane wrote: On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 09:56:32AM +0100, Michael Meeks wrote: * CXX0X-ABI incompatibility can of worms (Bjoern) + gcc 4.7 - cxx0x extension is binary incompatible + incompatible stdlib symbols that bust

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...

2012-07-02 Thread Michael Stahl
On 30/06/12 00:20, Caolán McNamara wrote: On Fri, 2012-06-29 at 23:57 +0200, Michael Stahl wrote: mostly though reset attachment flags what's your route here ? changing to non-patch/plain-text the experimental/dead stuff ? so my interpretation is that the patch flag doesn't mark a mime

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...

2012-07-02 Thread Rainer Bielefeld
Michael Meeks schrieb: We could use whiteboard for that I guess; Hi, alternatively I would prefer a new Keyword because we already use Whiteboard very intensively. Best Regards Rainer ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...

2012-07-02 Thread Bjoern Michaelsen
On Mon, Jul 02, 2012 at 06:35:59PM +0200, Lionel Elie Mamane wrote: On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 09:56:32AM +0100, Michael Meeks wrote: * CXX0X-ABI incompatibility can of worms (Bjoern) + gcc 4.7 - cxx0x extension is binary incompatible + incompatible stdlib symbols that bust

[Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...

2012-06-29 Thread Michael Meeks
* Present: + Eike, Astron, Markus, Rainer, Michael, Kendy, Bjoern, Michael Stahl, Caolan, David, Cedric, Andras, Petr, Lionel * Completed Action Items + icons: poke Mango authors (Michael) + revert 3.6 to opaque background on Win7 (Kendy) * Pending

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...

2012-06-29 Thread Caolán McNamara
On Fri, 2012-06-29 at 09:56 +0100, Michael Meeks wrote: + (Caolan) 'C' locale is a 'no idea what people want' locale I mean that a huge amount of people use the en_US locale as their default I want everything in English even though I'm not in the US locale[1] so that its probably

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...

2012-06-29 Thread Noel Grandin
On 2012-06-29 14:47, Caolán McNamara wrote: I looked through some of these, some patches are just experimental stuff or debugging patches or obsolete stuff. Maybe we should have some way of marking bugs in in-progress or experimental ? Maybe just push bugs that have incomplete patches into

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...

2012-06-29 Thread Michael Meeks
On Fri, 2012-06-29 at 14:51 +0200, Noel Grandin wrote: On 2012-06-29 14:47, Caolán McNamara wrote: I looked through some of these, some patches are just experimental stuff or debugging patches or obsolete stuff. Maybe we should have some way of marking bugs in in-progress or

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...

2012-06-29 Thread Caolán McNamara
On Fri, 2012-06-29 at 23:57 +0200, Michael Stahl wrote: mostly though reset attachment flags what's your route here ? changing to non-patch/plain-text the experimental/dead stuff ? C. ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address:

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...

2012-06-29 Thread Jan Holesovsky
Hi, On 2012-06-29 at 23:57 +0200, Michael Stahl wrote: * Pending Action Items + [pending] merge the new pretty templates in place of the old ugly ones (Michael S) hmm... how come the minutes say i am merging templates? I believe it was Astron who volunteered (and probably Michael

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...

2012-06-29 Thread Stefan Knorr
Hi all, hmm... how come the minutes say i am merging templates? i consider it Apparently, we sound alike..? Anyway, it was me who said that he'd try to help out there. Astron. ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address:

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...

2012-06-25 Thread Michael Meeks
Hi Cor, On Sun, 2012-06-24 at 23:23 +0200, Cor Nouws wrote: Michael Meeks wrote (21-06-12 17:55) * 3.5 bugs tagged with 'regression' + 179(+12) bugs open of 631(+17) total [...] Just taking a quick look at issues from the query below, I would suggest to skip mentioning numbers.

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...

2012-06-24 Thread Rainer Bielefeld
Cor Nouws schrieb: Just taking a quick look at issues from the query below, I would suggest to skip mentioning numbers. There is pollution with old issues, Hi, may be! The query is very useful to track and look at the reports. But the number gives a wrong idea of quality. But consider

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...

2012-06-21 Thread Caolán McNamara
On Thu, 2012-06-21 at 16:55 +0100, Michael Meeks wrote: + Caolan has tool for templates to strip lang tags so it works AI: + try template lang tag stripping tool (Bjoern) FWIW when I read the thread, I was reminded of

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...

2012-06-21 Thread Caolán McNamara
On Thu, 2012-06-21 at 16:55 +0100, Michael Meeks wrote: + Caolan has tool for templates to strip lang tags so it works AI: + try template lang tag stripping tool (Bjoern) FWIW when I read the thread, I was reminded of

[Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...

2012-06-15 Thread Michael Meeks
* Present: + Norbert, Rainer, Eike, Lionel, Michael, Stephan, Andras, Cedric, Bjoern, Kendy, Astron, Petr, Mitch * Completed Action Items + add encryption default UI option in 3.6 (Thorsten) + poke at Windows 8 certification requirements (Andras)

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...

2012-06-01 Thread Norbert Thiebaud
On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 5:24 AM, Michael Meeks michael.me...@suse.com wrote: * Quality of round-robin patch review (Markus)        + often generalists review specific patches for master        + gerrit should be able to help (Norbert)                + queueing and checking them                

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...

2012-06-01 Thread Michael Stahl
On 01/06/12 15:01, Norbert Thiebaud wrote: On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 5:24 AM, Michael Meeks michael.me...@suse.com wrote: * Quality of round-robin patch review (Markus) + often generalists review specific patches for master + gerrit should be able to help (Norbert)

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...

2012-06-01 Thread Michael Meeks
On Fri, 2012-06-01 at 15:08 +0200, Michael Stahl wrote: not the first time that our minute-taker mangles what people said :) Ahah ! I spot a new volunteer minute taker ;-) Regards, Michael. -- michael.me...@suse.com , Pseudo Engineer, itinerant idiot

[Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...

2012-06-01 Thread Michael Meeks
* Present: + Norbert, Rainer, David, Stephan (Astron), Stephan B, Fridrich, Tor, Kohei, Cedric, Petr, Michael, Andras, Thorsten, Caolan, Eike, Kendy, Alexander, Markus, Bjoern + ran out of phone-lines - urk. * Completed Action Items +

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call...

2012-05-24 Thread Andras Timar
2012/5/24 Caolán McNamara caol...@redhat.com: * QA update (Rainer)        + best builds for windows testing to get backtraces ?                + use bytemark box builds, tinderbox #20 On Windows, symbols are not embedded in executables but they are in separate .pdb files. Please zip *.pdb from

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call...

2012-05-24 Thread Alexander Wilms
Hi everyone, Sorry that I didn't attend the esc call, but I had issues with the freephone service which wouldn't let me connect. Anyway, here's what I wanted to mention: 1) Wer're done with the design of the template picker

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call...

2012-05-24 Thread Andras Timar
2012/5/24 Caolán McNamara caol...@redhat.com: * QA update (Rainer)        + best builds for windows testing to get backtraces ?                + use bytemark box builds, tinderbox #20 On Windows, symbols are not embedded in executables but they are in separate .pdb files. Please zip *.pdb from

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...

2012-05-22 Thread David Tardon
On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 10:04:41AM +0200, David Tardon wrote: On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 08:32:47AM +0200, David Tardon wrote: On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 09:00:51PM +0100, Michael Meeks wrote: + 3.6 status + connectivity, reportreader, shell, scp2 + will enable

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...

2012-05-22 Thread Christina Rossmanith
I'm curious as well - but didn't dare to ask :-) Christina Original-Nachricht Datum: Fri, 11 May 2012 09:55:25 +0200 Von: Noel Grandin n...@peralex.com An: michael.me...@suse.com CC: Libreoffice-qa libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org, libreoffice-dev

[Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...

2012-05-22 Thread Michael Meeks
* Present: + Norbert, Stephan, Caolan, Eike, Thorsten, Markus, Kohei, Cedric, Andras, Bjoern, Tor, Kendy, Ellie, Rainer, Michael S, Michael M, Petr, Lubos, Mitch * Completed Action Items + poke RedHat security guy wrt. keys (Caolan) + investigate

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...

2012-05-18 Thread David Tardon
On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 09:00:51PM +0100, Michael Meeks wrote: + 3.6 status + connectivity, reportreader, shell, scp2 + will enable adding 10-12 modules to tail_build. + will merge next week, in time for 3.6 I should clarify this

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...

2012-05-18 Thread David Tardon
On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 08:32:47AM +0200, David Tardon wrote: On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 09:00:51PM +0100, Michael Meeks wrote: + 3.6 status + connectivity, reportreader, shell, scp2 + will enable adding 10-12 modules to tail_build. +

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...

2012-05-14 Thread Michael Meeks
On Sun, 2012-05-13 at 12:57 +0200, Rainer Bielefeld wrote: I did a quick query concerning LibO Bugs with somehow patch attachments [1] and still UNFIXED, hat might show that these patches still wait for review or something else went wrong What shell we do with these 60 bugs? Yep -

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...

2012-05-13 Thread Rainer Bielefeld
Tommy schrieb: this looks quite worrisome: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38432 Hi Tommy, yes, I thought about sorting out invalid ones ;-) I created a shared query [2] where INVALID Bugs are excluded and also Bugs that already have been posted for review on

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...

2012-05-13 Thread Tommy
On Sun, 13 May 2012 12:57:51 +0200, Rainer Bielefeld libreoff...@bielefeldundbuss.de wrote: * bugs with patches in bugzilla (Michael) + unwound half a dozen or more + please encourage people to send patches to the mailing list Hi, I did a quick query concerning LibO Bugs

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...

2012-05-13 Thread Rainer Bielefeld
Tommy schrieb: this looks quite worrisome: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38432 Hi Tommy, yes, I thought about sorting out invalid ones ;-) I created a shared query [2] where INVALID Bugs are excluded and also Bugs that already have been posted for review on

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...

2012-05-11 Thread Michael Meeks
On Fri, 2012-05-11 at 09:55 +0200, Noel Grandin wrote: I'm curious - what does the AA tag mean? Either Alcoholics Anonymous, or Action Item :-) depending how difficult the task is that people volunteer for the meaning varies ;-) It's a simple way of trying to track the few

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...

2012-05-11 Thread Michael Meeks
On Fri, 2012-05-11 at 09:12 +0100, Michael Meeks wrote: On Fri, 2012-05-11 at 09:55 +0200, Noel Grandin wrote: I'm curious - what does the AA tag mean? Either Alcoholics Anonymous, or Action Item :-) depending how difficult the task is that people volunteer for the meaning varies ;-)

[Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...

2012-05-10 Thread Michael Meeks
* Present: + Andras, Mirek, Michael, Kendy, Stephan, Eike, Fridrich, David, Michael S, Petr, Rainer, Mitch, Caolan, Markus, Cedric, Tor, Kohei * Completed Action Items + ask Astron to show up and/or Mirek for UI team (Michael) + concrete bugzilla

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...

2012-04-23 Thread Michael Meeks
On Sat, 2012-04-21 at 09:09 -0500, Norbert Thiebaud wrote: + bytemark machine #2 + working on *BSD in virtualbox with little joy help appreciated (Norbert) + need 3x BSD virtual-boxes (ideally) I'd like to know a bit more about this

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...

2012-04-23 Thread Michael Meeks
On Fri, 2012-04-20 at 17:54 +0200, Tommy wrote: + LibO 4.0 + planned to be incrementally developed / migrated anyway + postpone until license change done (Bjoern) + concerns about breaking all extensions at once (Norbert) + better to

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...

2012-04-23 Thread Stephan Bergmann
On 04/23/2012 10:55 AM, Michael Meeks wrote: So - one advantage of a VM here, is that -if- we have a 'standard' virtual-machine for this, and do the tinderbox-ness in some snapshot or somesuch; then in the event of problems, QA or Developers could re-use the same VM for doing their own

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...

2012-04-23 Thread Norbert Thiebaud
On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 4:08 AM, Stephan Bergmann sberg...@redhat.com wrote: On 04/23/2012 10:55 AM, Michael Meeks wrote:        So - one advantage of a VM here, is that -if- we have a 'standard' virtual-machine for this, and do the tinderbox-ness in some snapshot or somesuch; then in the

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...

2012-04-23 Thread Stephan Bergmann
On 04/23/2012 11:15 AM, Norbert Thiebaud wrote: On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 4:08 AM, Stephan Bergmannsberg...@redhat.com wrote: On 04/23/2012 10:55 AM, Michael Meeks wrote: So - one advantage of a VM here, is that -if- we have a 'standard' virtual-machine for this, and do the

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...

2012-04-23 Thread Norbert Thiebaud
On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 4:24 AM, Stephan Bergmann sberg...@redhat.com wrote: This is solvable with updating the VM's git repos in the background, just taking the latest image when starting a VM. Before we abandoned work on OOo at Oracle last year, we were busy setting up a cool VM cluster

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...

2012-04-23 Thread Michael Meeks
On Sat, 2012-04-21 at 09:09 -0500, Norbert Thiebaud wrote: + bytemark machine #2 + working on *BSD in virtualbox with little joy help appreciated (Norbert) + need 3x BSD virtual-boxes (ideally) I'd like to know a bit more about this

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...

2012-04-22 Thread Francois Tigeot
On Sat, Apr 21, 2012 at 03:02:45PM -0500, Norbert Thiebaud wrote: On Sat, Apr 21, 2012 at 2:18 PM, Francois Tigeot ftig...@wolfpond.org wrote: If boxes are finally set up, they will be DragonFly + pkgsrc packages only, special software will have to be maintained by the developers

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...

2012-04-22 Thread Francois Tigeot
On Sat, Apr 21, 2012 at 03:02:45PM -0500, Norbert Thiebaud wrote: On Sat, Apr 21, 2012 at 2:18 PM, Francois Tigeot ftig...@wolfpond.org wrote: If boxes are finally set up, they will be DragonFly + pkgsrc packages only, special software will have to be maintained by the developers

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...

2012-04-21 Thread Norbert Thiebaud
On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 10:47 AM, Francois Tigeot ftig...@wolfpond.org wrote: Hey, On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 04:11:18PM +0100, Michael Meeks wrote: * tinderboxen / status (Norbert)       + bytemark machine #2               + working on *BSD in virtualbox with little                 joy help

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...

2012-04-21 Thread Francois Tigeot
On Sat, Apr 21, 2012 at 09:09:34AM -0500, Norbert Thiebaud wrote: On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 10:47 AM, Francois Tigeot ftig...@wolfpond.org wrote: On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 04:11:18PM +0100, Michael Meeks wrote: * tinderboxen / status (Norbert)       + bytemark machine #2               +

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...

2012-04-21 Thread Norbert Thiebaud
On Sat, Apr 21, 2012 at 2:18 PM, Francois Tigeot ftig...@wolfpond.org wrote: On Sat, Apr 21, 2012 at 09:09:34AM -0500, Norbert Thiebaud wrote: On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 10:47 AM, Francois Tigeot ftig...@wolfpond.org wrote: On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 04:11:18PM +0100, Michael Meeks wrote: *

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...

2012-04-21 Thread Norbert Thiebaud
On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 10:47 AM, Francois Tigeot ftig...@wolfpond.org wrote: Hey, On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 04:11:18PM +0100, Michael Meeks wrote: * tinderboxen / status (Norbert)       + bytemark machine #2               + working on *BSD in virtualbox with little                 joy help

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...

2012-04-21 Thread Francois Tigeot
On Sat, Apr 21, 2012 at 09:09:34AM -0500, Norbert Thiebaud wrote: On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 10:47 AM, Francois Tigeot ftig...@wolfpond.org wrote: On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 04:11:18PM +0100, Michael Meeks wrote: * tinderboxen / status (Norbert)       + bytemark machine #2               +

[Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...

2012-04-05 Thread Michael Meeks
* Present: + Tor, Rainer, Andras, Fridrich, Caolan, David, Michael, Bjoern, Kendy, Michael S, Petr, Elidh, Lubos, Thorsten, Stephan, Norbert * Completed Action Items + Hamburg Hackfest + blog some artwork for 'going to the LibreOffice hack-fest'

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...

2012-03-30 Thread Michael Meeks
On Thu, 2012-03-29 at 21:41 +0200, Tommy wrote: * Pending Action Items + [well underway] review and re-close 3.4.x MAB fixed in 3.5.x (Rainer) snip MAB = most annoying bugs is a registered trademark by Tommy Lol :-) however I'm gonna let you use it under

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