Re: Internal Updater
Khargaroth you coudl actually do one better. have it when download is clicked have it automatically poll the nearest mirror to you and download the installer from within LO and have it auto run and update ones system. not sure though how much work that would be though. We would eliminate the need to load a browser and alot of extra steps currently involved. On Sun, Jul 20, 2014 at 7:50 PM, khagaroth khagar...@gmail.com wrote: I don't find this that useful. Unless the internal updater starts using differential updates (which would be great), I think it's better to just open the download site in a browser. On Sun, Jul 20, 2014 at 7:35 PM, Joel Madero jmadero@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, I know we've discussed this already a few times - both within ESC and within the QA call but I wanted to get a better sense of what is needed to move forward with getting it fixed. FWIW I've closed 3 bugs this at least tangentially related to the subject. So - from what I understand the entire updater is just broken, when you get a notification that there is a new version you click it and it just takes you to the website where additional clicks are needed to download, and then more to install. QA has discussed this a few times and generally I think we've come up with a roadmap of what would be ideal but I know that it will require others to implement so I'm not trying to push this onto any developer just curious how (if at all) we can get it fixed. Phase I: Fix what is already there - currently you can go to Help - Check for Updates and there is a Install button that is always inactive. How much work would it take to at least fix that? If this will never get fixed (or be a long time) I think we should remove the button as it just reminds users about a broken feature that has been broken for a long time already. FWIW here I think we need to be clearer about what it means to check for update because it's based on what branch you are on Phase II: Add new options to allow a user to select the branch they want (fresh/stable/pre-release) and then another option to either download only or download and install which would automatically either download to a folder or download and install upon release. I think Phase II would be an amazing addition that would be kind of one of those big things we could run some PR about during a major release. Like I said - not pushing this on anyone, just curious where we stand as I see updater related bug reports and enhancement requests and QA has discussed it quite a few times as something that we feel need some love/attention. Best Regards, Joel ___ LibreOffice mailing list LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice ___ LibreOffice mailing list LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice -- Jonathan Aquilina ___ LibreOffice mailing list LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Internal Updater
I don't find this that useful. Unless the internal updater starts using differential updates (which would be great), I think it's better to just open the download site in a browser. On Sun, Jul 20, 2014 at 7:35 PM, Joel Madero jmadero@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, I know we've discussed this already a few times - both within ESC and within the QA call but I wanted to get a better sense of what is needed to move forward with getting it fixed. FWIW I've closed 3 bugs this at least tangentially related to the subject. So - from what I understand the entire updater is just broken, when you get a notification that there is a new version you click it and it just takes you to the website where additional clicks are needed to download, and then more to install. QA has discussed this a few times and generally I think we've come up with a roadmap of what would be ideal but I know that it will require others to implement so I'm not trying to push this onto any developer just curious how (if at all) we can get it fixed. Phase I: Fix what is already there - currently you can go to Help - Check for Updates and there is a Install button that is always inactive. How much work would it take to at least fix that? If this will never get fixed (or be a long time) I think we should remove the button as it just reminds users about a broken feature that has been broken for a long time already. FWIW here I think we need to be clearer about what it means to check for update because it's based on what branch you are on Phase II: Add new options to allow a user to select the branch they want (fresh/stable/pre-release) and then another option to either download only or download and install which would automatically either download to a folder or download and install upon release. I think Phase II would be an amazing addition that would be kind of one of those big things we could run some PR about during a major release. Like I said - not pushing this on anyone, just curious where we stand as I see updater related bug reports and enhancement requests and QA has discussed it quite a few times as something that we feel need some love/attention. Best Regards, Joel ___ LibreOffice mailing list libreoff...@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Internal Updater
Khargaroth you coudl actually do one better. have it when download is clicked have it automatically poll the nearest mirror to you and download the installer from within LO and have it auto run and update ones system. not sure though how much work that would be though. We would eliminate the need to load a browser and alot of extra steps currently involved. On Sun, Jul 20, 2014 at 7:50 PM, khagaroth khagar...@gmail.com wrote: I don't find this that useful. Unless the internal updater starts using differential updates (which would be great), I think it's better to just open the download site in a browser. On Sun, Jul 20, 2014 at 7:35 PM, Joel Madero jmadero@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, I know we've discussed this already a few times - both within ESC and within the QA call but I wanted to get a better sense of what is needed to move forward with getting it fixed. FWIW I've closed 3 bugs this at least tangentially related to the subject. So - from what I understand the entire updater is just broken, when you get a notification that there is a new version you click it and it just takes you to the website where additional clicks are needed to download, and then more to install. QA has discussed this a few times and generally I think we've come up with a roadmap of what would be ideal but I know that it will require others to implement so I'm not trying to push this onto any developer just curious how (if at all) we can get it fixed. Phase I: Fix what is already there - currently you can go to Help - Check for Updates and there is a Install button that is always inactive. How much work would it take to at least fix that? If this will never get fixed (or be a long time) I think we should remove the button as it just reminds users about a broken feature that has been broken for a long time already. FWIW here I think we need to be clearer about what it means to check for update because it's based on what branch you are on Phase II: Add new options to allow a user to select the branch they want (fresh/stable/pre-release) and then another option to either download only or download and install which would automatically either download to a folder or download and install upon release. I think Phase II would be an amazing addition that would be kind of one of those big things we could run some PR about during a major release. Like I said - not pushing this on anyone, just curious where we stand as I see updater related bug reports and enhancement requests and QA has discussed it quite a few times as something that we feel need some love/attention. Best Regards, Joel ___ LibreOffice mailing list libreoff...@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice ___ LibreOffice mailing list libreoff...@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice -- Jonathan Aquilina ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Internal Updater
Hi All, I know we've discussed this already a few times - both within ESC and within the QA call but I wanted to get a better sense of what is needed to move forward with getting it fixed. FWIW I've closed 3 bugs this at least tangentially related to the subject. So - from what I understand the entire updater is just broken, when you get a notification that there is a new version you click it and it just takes you to the website where additional clicks are needed to download, and then more to install. QA has discussed this a few times and generally I think we've come up with a roadmap of what would be ideal but I know that it will require others to implement so I'm not trying to push this onto any developer just curious how (if at all) we can get it fixed. Phase I: Fix what is already there - currently you can go to Help - Check for Updates and there is a Install button that is always inactive. How much work would it take to at least fix that? If this will never get fixed (or be a long time) I think we should remove the button as it just reminds users about a broken feature that has been broken for a long time already. FWIW here I think we need to be clearer about what it means to check for update because it's based on what branch you are on Phase II: Add new options to allow a user to select the branch they want (fresh/stable/pre-release) and then another option to either download only or download and install which would automatically either download to a folder or download and install upon release. I think Phase II would be an amazing addition that would be kind of one of those big things we could run some PR about during a major release. Like I said - not pushing this on anyone, just curious where we stand as I see updater related bug reports and enhancement requests and QA has discussed it quite a few times as something that we feel need some love/attention. Best Regards, Joel ___ LibreOffice mailing list LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Internal Updater
Hi, I do not want to be unhelpful, but some SI-GUI C# code pointers: 1) Download a specific branch: https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/gitweb?p=si-gui.git;a=blob;f=Downloader.cs;h=1892e46e0a403d54f735bdb63d9822f88f1d909c;hb=HEAD#l67 2) Installing it: https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/gitweb?p=si-gui.git;a=blob;f=MainUI.cs;h=c516349cf256d14ff57d7288fb65843b6f948ef4;hb=HEAD#l429 I am improving the structure currently and improve code quality... ( 1) looks better then 2) ). I know, it is not inside LibO, but it is a starting point Liebe Grüße, / Yours, Florian Reisinger Am 20.07.2014 um 19:35 schrieb Joel Madero jmadero@gmail.com: Hi All, I know we've discussed this already a few times - both within ESC and within the QA call but I wanted to get a better sense of what is needed to move forward with getting it fixed. FWIW I've closed 3 bugs this at least tangentially related to the subject. So - from what I understand the entire updater is just broken, when you get a notification that there is a new version you click it and it just takes you to the website where additional clicks are needed to download, and then more to install. QA has discussed this a few times and generally I think we've come up with a roadmap of what would be ideal but I know that it will require others to implement so I'm not trying to push this onto any developer just curious how (if at all) we can get it fixed. Phase I: Fix what is already there - currently you can go to Help - Check for Updates and there is a Install button that is always inactive. How much work would it take to at least fix that? If this will never get fixed (or be a long time) I think we should remove the button as it just reminds users about a broken feature that has been broken for a long time already. FWIW here I think we need to be clearer about what it means to check for update because it's based on what branch you are on Phase II: Add new options to allow a user to select the branch they want (fresh/stable/pre-release) and then another option to either download only or download and install which would automatically either download to a folder or download and install upon release. I think Phase II would be an amazing addition that would be kind of one of those big things we could run some PR about during a major release. Like I said - not pushing this on anyone, just curious where we stand as I see updater related bug reports and enhancement requests and QA has discussed it quite a few times as something that we feel need some love/attention. Best Regards, Joel ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: libreoffice...@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/ ___ LibreOffice mailing list LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice
Re: Internal Updater
I don't find this that useful. Unless the internal updater starts using differential updates (which would be great), I think it's better to just open the download site in a browser. On Sun, Jul 20, 2014 at 7:35 PM, Joel Madero jmadero@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, I know we've discussed this already a few times - both within ESC and within the QA call but I wanted to get a better sense of what is needed to move forward with getting it fixed. FWIW I've closed 3 bugs this at least tangentially related to the subject. So - from what I understand the entire updater is just broken, when you get a notification that there is a new version you click it and it just takes you to the website where additional clicks are needed to download, and then more to install. QA has discussed this a few times and generally I think we've come up with a roadmap of what would be ideal but I know that it will require others to implement so I'm not trying to push this onto any developer just curious how (if at all) we can get it fixed. Phase I: Fix what is already there - currently you can go to Help - Check for Updates and there is a Install button that is always inactive. How much work would it take to at least fix that? If this will never get fixed (or be a long time) I think we should remove the button as it just reminds users about a broken feature that has been broken for a long time already. FWIW here I think we need to be clearer about what it means to check for update because it's based on what branch you are on Phase II: Add new options to allow a user to select the branch they want (fresh/stable/pre-release) and then another option to either download only or download and install which would automatically either download to a folder or download and install upon release. I think Phase II would be an amazing addition that would be kind of one of those big things we could run some PR about during a major release. Like I said - not pushing this on anyone, just curious where we stand as I see updater related bug reports and enhancement requests and QA has discussed it quite a few times as something that we feel need some love/attention. Best Regards, Joel ___ LibreOffice mailing list LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice ___ LibreOffice mailing list LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice
[Libreoffice-qa] Internal Updater
Hi All, I know we've discussed this already a few times - both within ESC and within the QA call but I wanted to get a better sense of what is needed to move forward with getting it fixed. FWIW I've closed 3 bugs this at least tangentially related to the subject. So - from what I understand the entire updater is just broken, when you get a notification that there is a new version you click it and it just takes you to the website where additional clicks are needed to download, and then more to install. QA has discussed this a few times and generally I think we've come up with a roadmap of what would be ideal but I know that it will require others to implement so I'm not trying to push this onto any developer just curious how (if at all) we can get it fixed. Phase I: Fix what is already there - currently you can go to Help - Check for Updates and there is a Install button that is always inactive. How much work would it take to at least fix that? If this will never get fixed (or be a long time) I think we should remove the button as it just reminds users about a broken feature that has been broken for a long time already. FWIW here I think we need to be clearer about what it means to check for update because it's based on what branch you are on Phase II: Add new options to allow a user to select the branch they want (fresh/stable/pre-release) and then another option to either download only or download and install which would automatically either download to a folder or download and install upon release. I think Phase II would be an amazing addition that would be kind of one of those big things we could run some PR about during a major release. Like I said - not pushing this on anyone, just curious where we stand as I see updater related bug reports and enhancement requests and QA has discussed it quite a few times as something that we feel need some love/attention. Best Regards, Joel ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Internal Updater
Hi, I do not want to be unhelpful, but some SI-GUI C# code pointers: 1) Download a specific branch: https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/gitweb?p=si-gui.git;a=blob;f=Downloader.cs;h=1892e46e0a403d54f735bdb63d9822f88f1d909c;hb=HEAD#l67 2) Installing it: https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/gitweb?p=si-gui.git;a=blob;f=MainUI.cs;h=c516349cf256d14ff57d7288fb65843b6f948ef4;hb=HEAD#l429 I am improving the structure currently and improve code quality... ( 1) looks better then 2) ). I know, it is not inside LibO, but it is a starting point Liebe Grüße, / Yours, Florian Reisinger Am 20.07.2014 um 19:35 schrieb Joel Madero jmadero@gmail.com: Hi All, I know we've discussed this already a few times - both within ESC and within the QA call but I wanted to get a better sense of what is needed to move forward with getting it fixed. FWIW I've closed 3 bugs this at least tangentially related to the subject. So - from what I understand the entire updater is just broken, when you get a notification that there is a new version you click it and it just takes you to the website where additional clicks are needed to download, and then more to install. QA has discussed this a few times and generally I think we've come up with a roadmap of what would be ideal but I know that it will require others to implement so I'm not trying to push this onto any developer just curious how (if at all) we can get it fixed. Phase I: Fix what is already there - currently you can go to Help - Check for Updates and there is a Install button that is always inactive. How much work would it take to at least fix that? If this will never get fixed (or be a long time) I think we should remove the button as it just reminds users about a broken feature that has been broken for a long time already. FWIW here I think we need to be clearer about what it means to check for update because it's based on what branch you are on Phase II: Add new options to allow a user to select the branch they want (fresh/stable/pre-release) and then another option to either download only or download and install which would automatically either download to a folder or download and install upon release. I think Phase II would be an amazing addition that would be kind of one of those big things we could run some PR about during a major release. Like I said - not pushing this on anyone, just curious where we stand as I see updater related bug reports and enhancement requests and QA has discussed it quite a few times as something that we feel need some love/attention. Best Regards, Joel ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/ ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
