Re: [PUSHED 4.0] LATE FEATURE: Personas in LibreOffice

2013-01-09 Thread Petr Mladek
Pedro píše v Út 08. 01. 2013 v 17:16 -0800:
 Petr Mladek wrote
  I took the approval from Cor, Olivier, Adolfo, Michael, and pushed into
  4-0 branch for 4.0.0.1 build.
 
 That means it should be available in the 4.0 daily builds tomorrow?

Yup, it should be there.

 BTW if anyone is curious I played around with the Persona feature and
 created this
 http://www.getpersonas.com/en-US/persona/491370
 You can use it in your FF browser as well :)

Nice to see first persona created for LibreOffice :-)

Best Regards,
Petr

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Re: [PUSHED 4.0] LATE FEATURE: Personas in LibreOffice

2013-01-09 Thread Petr Mladek
Jean-Baptiste Faure píše v St 09. 01. 2013 v 06:22 +0100:
 Le 09/01/2013 02:16, Pedro a écrit :
  Petr Mladek wrote
  I took the approval from Cor, Olivier, Adolfo, Michael, and pushed into
  4-0 branch for 4.0.0.1 build.
  
  That means it should be available in the 4.0 daily builds tomorrow?
  
  BTW if anyone is curious I played around with the Persona feature and
  created this
  http://www.getpersonas.com/en-US/persona/491370
 
 I saw, but it does not work for me after a make dev-install on Ubuntu
 12.04 x86-64. Nothing changes when I choose an persona's url

It works for me with the last build from 4-0 branch.

  and LO does
 not remember of this url if I reopen options panel.

Hmm, it does not show the saved url in the options dialog. Instead, it
shows URL template (http://www.getpersonas.com). I wonder if it is a
feature. Kendy?

Anyway, the setting is saved. I see the chosen persona even after
restarting LO.

Best Regards,
Petr

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Re: [PUSHED 4.0] LATE FEATURE: Personas in LibreOffice

2013-01-09 Thread Stefan Knorr (Astron)
Hi all,

so, some of you know, I have soem reservations about this feature...
be that as it may, I have a small number of comments still:

* there are some spelling/grammar errors:
** the button for selecting the background image has the word Backround on it
** the window for Select a persona has the sentence Find persona you
like on it – lacks an a before persona
** also in that window: Then copy the URL of page [...] – lacking a
the before page

* I fear that enough people don't know what URL means, may I propose
web address as a more accessible replacement?

* What is the difference between default persona and no persona
(currently, at least)? I would remove this option until we decide we
want to ship a persona by default.

* Downloading personas appears to be synchronous, leading to visible
UI lag and Windows adding (doesn't respond) to the titlebar of the
LibO window with my (admittedly somewhat slow (1000 Mb/s)) connection
speed – it would be much better to make this ascynchronous.

On 9 January 2013 09:54, Petr Mladek pmla...@suse.cz wrote:
 Hmm, it does not show the saved url in the options dialog. Instead, it
 shows URL template (http://www.getpersonas.com). I wonder if it is a
 feature.

I agree that it would be nice to see the name and URL of the current
persona somewhere, though not necessarily in the Persona Selection
dialogue itself. I guess the name could be on the preferences page,
e.g. directly after the use own persona option. Not sure about where
to put the URL...


Astron.
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Re: [PUSHED 4.0] LATE FEATURE: Personas in LibreOffice

2013-01-09 Thread Jan Holesovsky
Hi Astron,

Stefan Knorr (Astron) píše v St 09. 01. 2013 v 12:52 +0100:

 so, some of you know, I have soem reservations about this feature...

:-)

 be that as it may, I have a small number of comments still:

Thanks for that, very good points!

 * there are some spelling/grammar errors:
 ** the button for selecting the background image has the word Backround on 
 it

Fixed now:

http://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/core/commit/?h=libreoffice-4-0id=b020075fd33e0ad20571980d6e72bd86a05bcd2e

 ** the window for Select a persona has the sentence Find persona you
 like on it – lacks an a before persona
 ** also in that window: Then copy the URL of page [...] – lacking a
 the before page
 
 * I fear that enough people don't know what URL means, may I propose
 web address as a more accessible replacement?

Reworded, I hope better now:

http://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/core/commit/?h=libreoffice-4-0id=c821a8ab11ff615737d98858a27ebf24803d7f61

 * What is the difference between default persona and no persona
 (currently, at least)? I would remove this option until we decide we
 want to ship a persona by default.

Reworded too:

http://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/core/commit/?h=libreoffice-4-0id=9b9d4a9472228a647d61edc428d542fd20bcb034

The aim is to be able to install a Persona using an extension even if we
do not ship with a Persona by default; and while at that, provide the
user with the possibility to switch that off (originally 'no persona').
Is it better now?

 * Downloading personas appears to be synchronous, leading to visible
 UI lag and Windows adding (doesn't respond) to the titlebar of the
 LibO window with my (admittedly somewhat slow (1000 Mb/s)) connection
 speed – it would be much better to make this ascynchronous.

Actually - I am not sure why it is that slow; it shouldn't be.  Either
way, I'll try to do something about that  make it async.

I'd be able to do a progress bar too, though probably only with 3 steps
(nothing, having loaded the page, having loaded the header, having
loaded the footer).  Is that worth that?

 On 9 January 2013 09:54, Petr Mladek pmla...@suse.cz wrote:
  Hmm, it does not show the saved url in the options dialog. Instead, it
  shows URL template (http://www.getpersonas.com). I wonder if it is a
  feature.
 
 I agree that it would be nice to see the name and URL of the current
 persona somewhere, though not necessarily in the Persona Selection
 dialogue itself. I guess the name could be on the preferences page,
 e.g. directly after the use own persona option. Not sure about where
 to put the URL...

Yes - I plan to do a preview in the lower part of the Personalization
dialog where you'd see (part of) the Persona bitmap.

Not sure if I manage to do the async loading + preview for 4.0,
though :-(  But showing the URL at least should be doable - is that
enough?

Thank you,
Kendy

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Re: [PUSHED 4.0] LATE FEATURE: Personas in LibreOffice

2013-01-09 Thread Stefan Knorr (Astron)
Hi again,

minor correction to my own post only
 LibO window with my (admittedly somewhat slow (1000 Mb/s)) connection

Make that 1 MBit/s...

Astron.
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Re: [PUSHED 4.0] LATE FEATURE: Personas in LibreOffice

2013-01-09 Thread khagaroth
It's useless without support for font color settings. Black text on black
persona isn't exactly great UX experience. Though to be fair, even with
support for this, some of the personas have rather weird color combinations
when checked in Firefox.


On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 2:38 PM, Stefan Knorr (Astron) 
heinzless...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi again,

 minor correction to my own post only
  LibO window with my (admittedly somewhat slow (1000 Mb/s)) connection

 Make that 1 MBit/s...

 Astron.
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Re: [PUSHED 4.0] LATE FEATURE: Personas in LibreOffice

2013-01-09 Thread Jean-Baptiste Faure
Hi Kendy,

Le 09/01/2013 14:21, Jan Holesovsky a écrit :
 [...]
 Not sure if I manage to do the async loading + preview for 4.0,
 though :-(  But showing the URL at least should be doable - is that
 enough?

For me it is enough, because we have a preview in Firefox. It is not
exactly the same, but it give a good idea.

Some additional remarks or suggestions for a further version:
1/ if you do several tests with differents personas, each is stored in
the gallery but never removed.
2/ you cannot change your persona when you are offline, even if the
persona you want is already in your gallery.
3/ Perhaps the textfield for the url could be a dropdown list showing
the last used personas, allowing to switch between stored personas.

Best regards.
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Re: [PUSHED 4.0] LATE FEATURE: Personas in LibreOffice

2013-01-09 Thread Jean-Baptiste Faure
Hi,

Le 09/01/2013 09:54, Petr Mladek a écrit :
 Jean-Baptiste Faure píše v St 09. 01. 2013 v 06:22 +0100:
 Le 09/01/2013 02:16, Pedro a écrit :
 Petr Mladek wrote
 I took the approval from Cor, Olivier, Adolfo, Michael, and pushed into
 4-0 branch for 4.0.0.1 build.

 That means it should be available in the 4.0 daily builds tomorrow?

 BTW if anyone is curious I played around with the Persona feature and
 created this
 http://www.getpersonas.com/en-US/persona/491370

 I saw, but it does not work for me after a make dev-install on Ubuntu
 12.04 x86-64. Nothing changes when I choose an persona's url
 
 It works for me with the last build from 4-0 branch.

Now it works for me too, with the help of Kendy.
I compiled LO without neon which is necessary to have access to http://

Nice feature :-)

Best regards.

JBF

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Re: [PUSHED 4.0] LATE FEATURE: Personas in LibreOffice

2013-01-08 Thread Petr Mladek
Michael Meeks píše v Út 08. 01. 2013 v 14:21 +:
 Hi there,
 
   I had a quick read; it -looks- rather low-touch - and the graphic
 effect is really pleasant; so I'd be well up for merging this.
 
 ( git --no-pager log --numstat -u 
 255c03d6ad4ed13c456ee621e0af765684a475d2~..4a4627eba410df933d004170d9f5638526acaed2
  ;
 git --no-pager log --numstat -u 
 540f090a68ae4375a36d0ee6dfbb4a82f28ac704~..540f090a68ae4375a36d0ee6dfbb4a82f28ac704
  ;
 git --no-pager log --numstat -u 
 c223e5ff859171adab1597025b30ec2501fc5771~..3f3d0c52ae29b6ab6b2c10a5557714361aa76a26
  ) | less
 
   IIRC we had this feature already for 4.0 for Windows, and this extends
 it to Linux+Mac. Having seen some oddness around transparency for Mac in
 the past, it would be worth testing there.
 
   But +1 from me for the -4-0 branch - assuming we can get another couple
 of reviews. As a quibble, I'd prefer to see BitmapEx's instead of
 BitmapEx*'s being used in the settings - which would simplify the code
 and make it less error prone I suspect; BitmapEx::IsEmpty is your
 friend :-)

I took the approval from Cor, Olivier, Adolfo, Michael, and pushed into
4-0 branch for 4.0.0.1 build.

Best Regards,
Petr

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Re: [PUSHED 4.0] LATE FEATURE: Personas in LibreOffice

2013-01-08 Thread Pedro
Petr Mladek wrote
 I took the approval from Cor, Olivier, Adolfo, Michael, and pushed into
 4-0 branch for 4.0.0.1 build.

That means it should be available in the 4.0 daily builds tomorrow?

BTW if anyone is curious I played around with the Persona feature and
created this
http://www.getpersonas.com/en-US/persona/491370
You can use it in your FF browser as well :)

Enjoy :)



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Re: [PUSHED 4.0] LATE FEATURE: Personas in LibreOffice

2013-01-08 Thread Jean-Baptiste Faure
Le 09/01/2013 02:16, Pedro a écrit :
 Petr Mladek wrote
 I took the approval from Cor, Olivier, Adolfo, Michael, and pushed into
 4-0 branch for 4.0.0.1 build.
 
 That means it should be available in the 4.0 daily builds tomorrow?
 
 BTW if anyone is curious I played around with the Persona feature and
 created this
 http://www.getpersonas.com/en-US/persona/491370

I saw, but it does not work for me after a make dev-install on Ubuntu
12.04 x86-64. Nothing changes when I choose an persona's url and LO does
not remember of this url if I reopen options panel.
Note: url depends on your locale, for me it's
http://www.getpersonas.com/fr/persona/491370

 You can use it in your FF browser as well :)

A little too flashy for me ;-)

Best regards.
JBF

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Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] [PUSHED 4.0] LATE FEATURE: Personas in LibreOffice

2013-01-08 Thread Petr Mladek
Michael Meeks píše v Út 08. 01. 2013 v 14:21 +:
 Hi there,
 
   I had a quick read; it -looks- rather low-touch - and the graphic
 effect is really pleasant; so I'd be well up for merging this.
 
 ( git --no-pager log --numstat -u 
 255c03d6ad4ed13c456ee621e0af765684a475d2~..4a4627eba410df933d004170d9f5638526acaed2
  ;
 git --no-pager log --numstat -u 
 540f090a68ae4375a36d0ee6dfbb4a82f28ac704~..540f090a68ae4375a36d0ee6dfbb4a82f28ac704
  ;
 git --no-pager log --numstat -u 
 c223e5ff859171adab1597025b30ec2501fc5771~..3f3d0c52ae29b6ab6b2c10a5557714361aa76a26
  ) | less
 
   IIRC we had this feature already for 4.0 for Windows, and this extends
 it to Linux+Mac. Having seen some oddness around transparency for Mac in
 the past, it would be worth testing there.
 
   But +1 from me for the -4-0 branch - assuming we can get another couple
 of reviews. As a quibble, I'd prefer to see BitmapEx's instead of
 BitmapEx*'s being used in the settings - which would simplify the code
 and make it less error prone I suspect; BitmapEx::IsEmpty is your
 friend :-)

I took the approval from Cor, Olivier, Adolfo, Michael, and pushed into
4-0 branch for 4.0.0.1 build.

Best Regards,
Petr

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