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--- Comment #44 from murphyde...@gmail.com ---
I would want to express my gratitude to Heiko for casting their vote. The
outcome is contingent upon whether or not it is selected.
I am also intrigued by the concept of item selection via
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--- Comment #42 from Pedro ---
Can confirm this still happens in 7.5:
Version: 7.5.0.0.alpha1+ (X86_64) / LibreOffice Community
Build ID: c50cf1883af26daebdfc9d796ced3c20c222f43b
CPU threads: 8; OS: Windows 10.0 Build 19044; UI render:
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--- Comment #41 from Pedro ---
(In reply to DarkTrick from comment #40)
> I spare the details here (feel free to talk to me on IRC).
> It's still on my list, but given the delay already I don't see me pushing
> this soon.
Ok, I'll ask
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--- Comment #40 from DarkTrick ---
I spare the details here (feel free to talk to me on IRC).
It's still on my list, but given the delay already I don't see me pushing this
soon.
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--- Comment #39 from Pedro ---
(In reply to DarkTrick from comment #37)
> Could someone give me a pointer on where the settings for this shortcut
> change are?
> I spend about 7 hours going through every mousebuttondown event and adding
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--- Comment #38 from Heiko Tietze ---
(In reply to DarkTrick from comment #37)
> So.. I would appreciate any input on this one!
Maybe start in sw/source/uibase/docvw/edtwin.cxx
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--- Comment #37 from DarkTrick ---
Could someone give me a pointer on where the settings for this shortcut change
are?
I spend about 7 hours going through every mousebuttondown event and adding a
printf, yet nothing fires.
What I found
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--- Comment #36 from DarkTrick ---
Sidenote: I just figured, not having this feature also breaks consistency
within impress: you multiselect slides with Ctrl+click.
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--- Comment #35 from DarkTrick ---
@Pedro: Sorry, I'm still working "before" it. This patch has a very high
priority for me, but there's something else on my desk, that needs to be one
first :/
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--- Comment #34 from Pedro ---
DarkTrick you had a patch to fix this? Maybe you could submit to master so that
we can test to see if it creates any problem? If it does the change can be
reverted.
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--- Comment #33 from Heiko Tietze ---
(In reply to DarkTrick from comment #32)
> Maybe @Heiko?
Ctrl+click (and move) copies the object. Draw has a large number of those
hidden gems.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QuQSZSCOtAY
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--- Comment #32 from DarkTrick ---
>From a Control-perspective:
Can someone list the concrete problems, that would arise if CTRL could ALSO be
used for multiselection?
Maybe @Heiko?
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--- Comment #31 from DarkTrick ---
I'd also support CTRL + click for multiselect.
(does not mean, I would remove shift.
Does not mean, I would not remove shift)
> A +click multi-select is not universal, look at multi-select for any
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--- Comment #30 from johnks ---
i want to add my 2 cents here.
I consider myself 'fairly' proficient in office suites and been using LO for so
many years, probably since '08 so yeah anyways, today i had to make a quick
presentation and
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--- Comment #29 from V Stuart Foote ---
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--- Comment #27 from Pedro ---
Considering that all other Office suites have it, it is universal in office
suites.
If you want to discuss about something being universal then shift click isn't
either for this exact function. Just try to
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--- Comment #26 from V Stuart Foote ---
A +click multi-select is not universal, look at multi-select for any
graphics/CAD based project, and the text/graphics widgets of any X11 based GUI.
Word Perfect and WordPerfect Office actually
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--- Comment #25 from Luke ---
I tested a 5th Office suite, WordPerfect Office X9. Here again the CTRL key
selects multiple shapes and images.
New users coming from any other office suite are going to expect the CTRL key
to select
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--- Comment #24 from Pedro ---
Well, here's what I already did:
- I already provided multiple tests.
- Tested 4 different Office suites.
- Demonstrated that all of them not only allow use Ctrl to select multiple
objects but also allow
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--- Comment #23 from andreas_k ---
To be clear when I used first time draw, I also didn't understood why ctrl
didn't work. And everywhere else I ordinary don't select more elements that
often.
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--- Comment #22 from Pedro ---
Okay, I am sorry if I came of as aggressive.
But I find it very distasteful that Stuart insinuates that I want to use
"Microsoft" convention. How is that constructive?
It's not a Microsoft convention. It's
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--- Comment #21 from andreas_k ---
I would recommend to
1. cool down
2. keep this bug open and test the next week if it will be an benefit to change
the shortcut
3. keep in mind that shortcut changes will always be a difficult task
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--- Comment #20 from Pedro ---
So I assume, that if you are confortable to offer users choice, as apparently
you are complimenting Microsoft for doing then change to Ctrl-click for Windows
users.
Let non-Microsoft users to keep basking
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--- Comment #19 from Pedro ---
"OP" (me) does not want to enforce "Microsoft" convention.
"OP" wants to adopt the universal convention used by every other Office suite
and most non-niche software (and even file explorers).
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--- Comment #18 from V Stuart Foote ---
OP wants us to follow Microsoft convention, our implementation was not theirs
and our +Click multi-selection is functional.
There is no imperative to adopt Microsoft's solutions, especially if
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--- Comment #15 from Heiko Tietze ---
Point is, you have to learn how the software works. And if we had Shift in the
past and would switch now to Ctrl I can hear the users complaining. Having an
option would be great but I guess that's
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--- Comment #14 from Pedro ---
Also, you can see that there's multiple bug reports of users COMPLAINING about
this. Clearly, there's desire for change.
Last I saw LibreOffice targets office suite users and not Inkscape or Scribus
users.
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--- Comment #13 from Pedro ---
Powerpoint allows Shift-click but uses Ctrl-click by default!!!
Inkscape, CorelDraw and Scribus are NOT Office suites. They're not even the
most used software in their respective categories.
I can point
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--- Comment #11 from Regina Henschel ---
I vote for keeping shift+click to expand selection. Inkscape, CorelDraw and
Scribus use shift+click too and do not use ctrl+click. PowerPoint allows
shift+click too in addition to ctrl+click.
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--- Comment #10 from Heiko Tietze ---
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> Armin, Regina:...
Kindly reminder
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--- Comment #6 from Heiko Tietze ---
(In reply to Pedro from comment #5)
> I also find the idea of selecting objects via the Navigator.
More ideas to rework it are here
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--- Comment #5 from Pedro ---
Thank you for the vote Heiko. Now it depends if it's picked up or not.
I also find the idea of selecting objects via the Navigator. This can be
especially useful if one has multiple objects overlaping each
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--- Comment #3 from Pedro ---
Using "legacy" as a reason to not adapt Ctrl selection is simply not valid
sorry.
Otherwise we would not fix or adapt anything in LibreOffice, we would not have
Sidebar or Tabbed UI or new icons.
We would
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