Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Moztrap, some questions

2012-08-15 Thread Yi Fan Jiang
Hi Sophie, I agree with your point that the localization is important, while the function and working process a tool is able to provide is also critical to meet our goal, isn't it? :) Moztrap takes more advantage in the latter and it has an activated development team. That's why I still believe

[Libreoffice-qa] Bug confirming EasyHack

2012-08-15 Thread Bjoern Michaelsen
Hi, looking at https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Easy_Hacks I see no 'Confirm a bug' EasyHack and I am not sure, if that was deliberate. @Rainer: Could you please quickly add one, linking to the right docs about it? Best, Bjoern ___ List Name:

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Bug confirming EasyHack

2012-08-15 Thread Rainer Bielefeld
Bjoern Michaelsen schrieb: Hi, looking at https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Easy_Hacks I see no 'Confirm a bug' EasyHack Hello Bjoern, What are we talking about? I do not understand the question. Do you not find a Bug HeasyHack: Please confirm a Bug or do you miss explications

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Bug confirming EasyHack

2012-08-15 Thread Bjoern Michaelsen
On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 11:10:34AM +0200, Rainer Bielefeld wrote: What are we talking about? I do not understand the question. Do you not find a Bug HeasyHack: Please confirm a Bug Exactly that. And since you know all the right links to it, could you please set it up? Best, Bjoern

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] RESOLVED status question

2012-08-15 Thread Petr Mladek
Hi, If you see the automatic comment about that a fix was committed and you are not longer able to reproduce the problem, I prefer to close it as RESOLVED FIXED. In this case, it is clear that a developer committed something for this particular bug. Someone fixed it by intention. Otherwise, if

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] RESOLVED status question

2012-08-15 Thread Bjoern Michaelsen
Hi, On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 12:01:31PM +0200, Petr Mladek wrote: If you see the automatic comment about that a fix was committed and you are not longer able to reproduce the problem, I prefer to close it as RESOLVED FIXED. In this case, it is clear that a developer committed something for

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Moztrap, some questions

2012-08-15 Thread Sophie Gautier
Hi Bjoern, On 15/08/2012 13:00, Bjoern Michaelsen wrote: Hi, On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 12:44:07PM +0200, Petr Mladek wrote: 2. translate the test case in wiki and give the link back to Moztrap I am afraid that it would be hard to maintain and too much clicking. Maybe we could add a link

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Moztrap, some questions

2012-08-15 Thread Bjoern Michaelsen
On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 02:29:53PM +0200, Sophie Gautier wrote: Imho, that won't work for two reasons: - behavior is not the same in every language and testing may differ/be adapted depending on the local In that case it is even more important that the testcase describe _all_ the information

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Moztrap, some questions

2012-08-15 Thread Sophie Gautier
Hi Bjoern, 15/08/2012 15:20, Bjoern Michaelsen wrote: On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 02:29:53PM +0200, Sophie Gautier wrote: Imho, that won't work for two reasons: - behavior is not the same in every language and testing may differ/be adapted depending on the local In that case it is even more

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Moztrap, some questions

2012-08-15 Thread Bjoern Michaelsen
On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 04:29:10PM +0200, Sophie Gautier wrote: it's not necessary, the people from the team who reports a misbehavior is aware of the difference between EN and his language. This is one of the first thing you check when you are testing a local environment, you've got it in

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Moztrap, some questions

2012-08-15 Thread Sophie Gautier
On 15/08/2012 17:31, Bjoern Michaelsen wrote: On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 04:29:10PM +0200, Sophie Gautier wrote: it's not necessary, the people from the team who reports a misbehavior is aware of the difference between EN and his language. This is one of the first thing you check when you are

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Moztrap, some questions

2012-08-15 Thread Bjoern Michaelsen
Hi, On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 06:27:59PM +0200, Sophie Gautier wrote: Beside the facts that we worked that way for years, That does not mean we shouldnt improve on it. if you don't trust the people managing the tests and the team, Thats a strawman argument: I never said or implied that. I said

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Moztrap, some questions

2012-08-15 Thread Petr Mladek
Sophie Gautier píše v St 15. 08. 2012 v 14:29 +0200: Hi Bjoern, On 15/08/2012 13:00, Bjoern Michaelsen wrote: I fear manually translated testcases are doomed to fail as they will always be outdated/incomplete during the timeframe that matters. Using automatic translation (and tweaking