Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Bug Submission Assistant Project

2011-09-27 Thread Michael Meeks
Hi Rainer, On Tue, 2011-09-27 at 08:21 +0200, Rainer Bielefeld wrote: to be honest: I completely lost the overview what's going on to fulfill what needs. Well, the code is checked into git; hopefully it can get polished there, as for whom is working on it, I'm not (currently) ;-)

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Some bugtracker cleaning ?

2011-09-28 Thread Michael Meeks
Hi Julien, On Wed, 2011-09-28 at 08:04 +0200, Julien Nabet wrote: I'm taking a look at the bugtracker, base part. Awesome :-) it'd be great to have more triage, accurate reporting and interest in base bugs - could you be the base loving hacker hero / maintainer that the user list is

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] automated testing of Base

2011-10-06 Thread Michael Meeks
Hi Bernhard, On Wed, 2011-10-05 at 21:41 +0200, Bernhard M. Wiedemann wrote: Yes, there are some spare cycles. If long tests need to be added, I could make it schedule them only daily like the extensive mozilla tests. Wonderful :-) The database bits are a pain to validate without your

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] automated testing of Base

2011-10-06 Thread Michael Meeks
Hi Drew, On Thu, 2011-10-06 at 00:57 -0400, drew wrote: well, kind of - there is a number of features that do not work with ODBC - so I'm just curious what the reason for using SQLite and ODBC would be for a test bed? So - the ideal test code that we have in the build is small,

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] db test VM (was: automated testing of Base)

2011-10-10 Thread Michael Meeks
On Mon, 2011-10-10 at 12:36 +0200, Petr Mladek wrote: Is is supposed for testing of the openSUSE LO packages or the plain LO build? The plain build I suggest. Is the testing automatic or manual? Automatic via openQA (which is awesome but well hidden ;-) Also I wonder where

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Bugzilla update

2011-10-17 Thread Michael Meeks
On Sun, 2011-10-16 at 11:46 +0200, Rainer Bielefeld wrote: today the FDO Bugzilla has been updated to version 4.0.2. Currently there are no changes, but may be we will try to use advanced features of this version. Brilliant news :-) Thanks so much to Tollef for working on this.

[Libreoffice-qa] FOSDEM: LibreOffice dev-toom talks ...

2011-11-15 Thread Michael Meeks
Hi guys, The FOSDEM organisers have kindly agreed to dedicate a developer room to LibreOffice development at the conference ( book now for 4-5 Feb 2012: http://fosdem.org/2012/ :-) So - that means we're eager to get -technical- talks (FOSDEM really is a true hackers conference),

[Libreoffice-qa] [REVIEWED] Backport reading AES-encrypted ODF 1.2 documents (as genereated by LibO 3.5)

2011-11-17 Thread Michael Meeks
Hi Stephan, On Fri, 2011-11-11 at 10:50 +0100, Stephan Bergmann wrote: http://pkgs.fedoraproject.org/gitweb/?p=libreoffice.git;a=blob;f=Backport-reading-AES-encrypted-ODF-1.2-documents.patch;h=e6c722598ab05464f09787355b621cbb0aa07c49;hb=e7a803540d408adab3d55fb2ae051ac4be599a72 is a patch

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [Libreoffice] ANNOUNCE: Updated schedule for LibreOffice 3.4.5 and 3.5.0 release

2011-11-18 Thread Michael Meeks
On Wed, 2011-11-16 at 20:09 +0100, Petr Mladek wrote: there was too big delay before 3.4.5 bugfix release. We decided the following changes on the last steering call[1]: So the 3.4.x cycle is made slightly odder by us extending it quite a bit, to get it better aligned with the rest of

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [Libreoffice] [ANN] LibreOffice 3.5.0 beta0 available

2011-12-02 Thread Michael Meeks
Hi guys, On Fri, 2011-12-02 at 10:25 +0100, Thorsten Behrens wrote: for the upcoming new version 3.5.0, we start with a beta0 build that likely will have a few rough edges, and is not yet feature-complete. It is in a bit of a state it seems :-) anyhow - lots of bugs in our release

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] LibO 3.5.0 Beta 0 First assessment

2011-12-03 Thread Michael Meeks
Hi Rainer, On Sat, 2011-12-03 at 08:42 +0100, Rainer Bielefeld wrote: it's a disaster, completely unusable ! Quality of Beta0 is far behind quality of Master during the last weeks, it seems that we were not lucky with the time where the tag has been created Quite quite :-) so Beta1

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] LibO 3.5.0 Beta 0 First assessment

2011-12-03 Thread Michael Meeks
Hi Pedro, On Sat, 2011-12-03 at 12:25 +, Pedro Lino wrote: Is it reasonable to admit that the all current changes in master will be in Beta1? If so, using master~2011-12-02_22.36.35_libodev35 from Win-x86@6-fast as a replacement for Beta0 is acceptable? Yes ! we have not branched

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [Libreoffice] End of the line for 3.3 family and regressions

2011-12-10 Thread Michael Meeks
Hi Pedro, On Fri, 2011-12-09 at 20:34 +, Pedro Lino wrote: E.g. A bug fix such as this https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=42958 needs to be cherry picked to the 3.4 branch Seems that Eike picked this to -3-4 shortly after you mentioned it ;-) of course, if there are more

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Java 7 support in LO 3.4.5 (was: [Libreoffice] minutes of tech. steering call ...)

2011-12-13 Thread Michael Meeks
On Mon, 2011-12-12 at 19:53 +, Pedro Lino wrote: Uninstalled Java 6 rev 29. Run LO 3.4.4. Executed File, Wizard, Letter. Reported missing Java Run LOdev 3.5.0 Build ID: f923851-7f15fca-1f1fd1a-ca8e46d-5bcbce4. Executed File, Wizard, Letter. LOdev crashed. Gosh; when you say

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [Libreoffice] What are the criteria to nominate bugs as most annoying bug?

2012-01-04 Thread Michael Meeks
Hi Winfried, So - this best belongs on the QA list (which I've CC'd): On Wed, 2012-01-04 at 11:44 +0100, Winfried Donkers wrote: There are some bugs in calc that damage formulas/conditional formats of cells. As this goes further than just being a nuisance I would like to nominate them

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] 3.5.0 QA ... from BHS 1 to BHS 2

2012-01-10 Thread Michael Meeks
Hi Pedro, On Tue, 2012-01-10 at 08:48 -0800, Pedro wrote: But the main obstacle IMO is the requirement to have to subscribe to yet another account. I have suggested elsewhere that OpenID should be adopted as the default identification method. I agree. Most people already have an

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] 3.5.0 QA ... from BHS 1 to BHS 2

2012-01-10 Thread Michael Meeks
On Tue, 2012-01-10 at 07:12 -0800, Pedro wrote: I know this wasn't addressed to me, but here are my thoughts... I always like to hear your thoughts :-) First of all RCs: RC releases replace the tester's stable release. I know it can't be otherwise. Ok - so this might be a

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Blocker in 3.5.0Beta3?

2012-01-30 Thread Michael Meeks
On Sun, 2012-01-29 at 08:20 -0200, Olivier Hallot wrote: However, in a customized installation (where I removed tons of useless dictionaries), the user interface of the first invokation is in English and not in pt-BR. IIRC, we only install a small subset of the bundled dictionaries on

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Minutes - QA related - TSC call 2012-01-26

2012-01-30 Thread Michael Meeks
On Sat, 2012-01-28 at 19:00 +0100, Rainer Bielefeld wrote: But the positive fact is that acceptance to see regression bugs as Most Annoying Ones by definition is growing. Absolutely; so - one of our issues is bad visibility communication between QA and developers; getting the

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Minutes - QA related - TSC call 2012-01-26

2012-01-30 Thread Michael Meeks
Hi Pedro, On Mon, 2012-01-30 at 04:08 -0800, Pedro wrote: That is because there are fewer developers using the Windows platform and there are absurdly very few people in QA (and only a fraction on Windows). Sure, we need to do things to try to grow interest there, clearly the efforts

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] guidelines for filing bugs

2012-01-31 Thread Michael Meeks
On Mon, 2012-01-30 at 11:52 -0500, Terrence Enger wrote: I wonder if it would be a good idea to say, somewhere in the wiki pages about filing bugs, something like ... :-) I'm afraid almost everyone thinks that their problem is obvious, and that we're morons for not seeing it, or for

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [ANN] Referencing bugs in commits

2012-02-14 Thread Michael Meeks
On Tue, 2012-02-14 at 16:16 +0100, Jan Holesovsky wrote: Markus has implemented a nice feature that should help keeping the bugs up to date: whenever you are committing / pushing to git, and you ooh ! really lovely :-) Great work Markus ! Michael. --

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [ANN] Referencing bugs in commits

2012-02-14 Thread Michael Meeks
On Tue, 2012-02-14 at 20:33 +0400, Ivan Timofeev wrote: Is it possible somehow include the information about a target version? I guess that -should- be implicit in the branch it is committed to, so - sounds feasible ;-) at least - the expert eye can see that information there already.

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] test cases quality; was: Ubuntu/Canonical doing more manual testing for LibreOffice?

2012-03-02 Thread Michael Meeks
On Fri, 2012-03-02 at 19:21 +0100, Petr Mladek wrote: Name: Translation check of creating a new database ... * the database wizard open: all strings in the dialog box and window are correctly localized to your own language. So - this looks pretty odd to me :-) This

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Win7 - message: LibreOffice 3.5 does not work anymore - update

2012-03-02 Thread Michael Meeks
On Fri, 2012-03-02 at 22:42 +0100, Luc Castermans wrote: Related to my previous post: Ho hum. - I installed 3.4.5, ran as Administrator - now Libo starts, but reported JRE was missing - I installed JRE Now I re-installed 3.5 rc1 and everthing is fine now. Hmm. Appears

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [ANNOUNCE] libreoffice-3.5.1.2 tag created (3.5.1-rc2)

2012-03-14 Thread Michael Meeks
Hi Tommy, On Wed, 2012-03-14 at 09:39 +0100, Tommy wrote: there have been created the libreoffice-3.5.1.2 tag for 3.5.1-rc2 release. Hi, is the RC2 going to be released bit-per-bit as 3.5.1 final? In the absence of any horrors I would expect that :-) on the release plan page the

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Regressions in Open Source projects ...

2012-03-15 Thread Michael Meeks
On Thu, 2012-03-15 at 17:04 +0400, Ivan Timofeev wrote: Perhaps, if you mean the whole team. But note that there are some lunatic guys like me, who are interested in bug-fixing ~completely. ;) Yep - you're a star ! :-) Thanks Ivan ! Michael. --

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Regressions in Open Source projects ...

2012-03-16 Thread Michael Meeks
On Thu, 2012-03-15 at 21:22 +0100, Petr Mladek wrote: Actually I was talking about SUSE LibreOffice for Windows (which is apparently a one-off unsupported release created for the Intel AppUp store) :) Nah - SUSE will be maintaining that with our stable release. Though of course it

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [ANN] LibreOffice 3.5.2 RC2 test builds available

2012-03-29 Thread Michael Meeks
On Wed, 2012-03-28 at 15:30 -0700, Pedro wrote: I can't believe that 3.5.2 is going to be released with Slideshow completely ruined for all Windows users... :-) lets not conclude that. The purpose of the RC's is to find horrible bugs that havn't been noticed yet. This is a regression

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...

2012-03-30 Thread Michael Meeks
On Thu, 2012-03-29 at 21:41 +0200, Tommy wrote: * Pending Action Items + [well underway] review and re-close 3.4.x MAB fixed in 3.5.x (Rainer) snip MAB = most annoying bugs is a registered trademark by Tommy Lol :-) however I'm gonna let you use it under

[Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...

2012-04-05 Thread Michael Meeks
* Present: + Tor, Rainer, Andras, Fridrich, Caolan, David, Michael, Bjoern, Kendy, Michael S, Petr, Elidh, Lubos, Thorsten, Stephan, Norbert * Completed Action Items + Hamburg Hackfest + blog some artwork for 'going to the LibreOffice hack-fest'

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [CFT] Windows native file/folder picker (fop/fps)

2012-04-12 Thread Michael Meeks
On Sat, 2012-04-07 at 16:16 +0200, Cor Nouws wrote: Ah, very good that you ask. I use the switch regularly, but am not so used to the LookFeel on Win 7 in my virtualbox. Thus indeed: I had picked the wrong one. and taking the other makes the (changed) OOo file picker work. Is

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Visual representation of calc borders slightly changed

2012-04-12 Thread Michael Meeks
On Wed, 2012-04-04 at 03:11 +0200, Markus Mohrhard wrote: I just pushed a fix for fdo#33634 to master. This patch changes the visual representation of borders significantly and I ask therefore for testing and a ux look. We now display the borders based on the actual width information and

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...

2012-04-23 Thread Michael Meeks
On Sat, 2012-04-21 at 09:09 -0500, Norbert Thiebaud wrote: + bytemark machine #2 + working on *BSD in virtualbox with little joy help appreciated (Norbert) + need 3x BSD virtual-boxes (ideally) I'd like to know a bit more about this

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [ANN] LibreOffice 3.5.2 RC2 test builds available

2012-04-23 Thread Michael Meeks
Hi Fridrich, On Sat, 2012-04-21 at 16:43 -0700, Pedro wrote: So - Fridrich is going to do a re-spin. The (only) change (in a nutshell) is to delete the cairocanvas.uno.dll from the program/ directory - so you can even test it before it goes live. ... I think this was not cherry-picked

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Office XP/2003, 2007/2010 formats import/export -- most used feature.

2012-04-23 Thread Michael Meeks
Hi there, On Mon, 2012-04-23 at 19:04 +0530, dE . wrote: The MAB has been chaotic lately... actually it turned out that I didn't get a lot of mails and missed out a lot of comments following the LONG discussion in the bug... so sorry about that, I noticed them now. :-) What I've

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Help dealing with this

2012-04-25 Thread Michael Meeks
On Tue, 2012-04-24 at 23:24 -0400, Kohei Yoshida wrote: I think we could use some help dealing with an ugly personal attack disguised as a bug report. https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=49115 It's a bug reporter like this that makes me lose hope in a FOSS project such as this one.

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Office XP/2003, 2007/2010 formats import/export -- most used feature.

2012-04-25 Thread Michael Meeks
On Tue, 2012-04-24 at 17:55 +0200, Petr Mladek wrote: In this case, I prefer using whiteboard instead of metabug: Easy for me to query too. + inter-operability into Whiteboard for all these bugs Gosh that's a long string; how about 'interop' :-) + and maybe plus

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Bug Triage best practice: Change or not change assignee?

2012-04-25 Thread Michael Meeks
On Tue, 2012-04-24 at 16:54 +0200, Petr Mladek wrote: There is strong conflicting opinion between Bjoern and Rainer. I suggest to decide this on the ESC or QA meeting. It's on the agenda. BTW: There was wrongly described Novell bugzilla. In fact, it has the best solution, I have

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Office XP/2003, 2007/2010 formats import/export -- most used feature.

2012-04-25 Thread Michael Meeks
Hi Michael, On Wed, 2012-04-25 at 14:37 +0200, Michael Stahl wrote: i'd prefer something more specific like office-interop msft-interop mso-interop or whatever because there are other things we need to interop with as well even if they may be less important :) Sounds reasonable;

[Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...

2012-05-10 Thread Michael Meeks
* Present: + Andras, Mirek, Michael, Kendy, Stephan, Eike, Fridrich, David, Michael S, Petr, Rainer, Mitch, Caolan, Markus, Cedric, Tor, Kohei * Completed Action Items + ask Astron to show up and/or Mirek for UI team (Michael) + concrete bugzilla

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...

2012-05-11 Thread Michael Meeks
On Fri, 2012-05-11 at 09:55 +0200, Noel Grandin wrote: I'm curious - what does the AA tag mean? Either Alcoholics Anonymous, or Action Item :-) depending how difficult the task is that people volunteer for the meaning varies ;-) It's a simple way of trying to track the few

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...

2012-05-11 Thread Michael Meeks
On Fri, 2012-05-11 at 09:12 +0100, Michael Meeks wrote: On Fri, 2012-05-11 at 09:55 +0200, Noel Grandin wrote: I'm curious - what does the AA tag mean? Either Alcoholics Anonymous, or Action Item :-) depending how difficult the task is that people volunteer for the meaning varies

[Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...

2012-05-22 Thread Michael Meeks
* Present: + Norbert, Stephan, Caolan, Eike, Thorsten, Markus, Kohei, Cedric, Andras, Bjoern, Tor, Kendy, Ellie, Rainer, Michael S, Michael M, Petr, Lubos, Mitch * Completed Action Items + poke RedHat security guy wrt. keys (Caolan) + investigate

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] How to improve our Bug tracking system

2012-05-23 Thread Michael Meeks
On Wed, 2012-05-23 at 11:07 +0200, Rainer Bielefeld wrote: I did some first thoughts concerning a Wizard gaining some basic info from LibO (OS, Version / ID-No, some basic user settings (what still need some discussion) with Rob Snelders at the Hackfest in Hamburg. Gaining the info from

[Libreoffice-qa] request for projector testing ...

2012-05-31 Thread Michael Meeks
Hi guys, Yesterday I re-factored the projector display detection for the slideshow in impress quite substantially, and also fixed some threading evilness in the code. For me (for no apparent reason) the presenter view shows up in black white with no pretty images [ I imagine it will for

[Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...

2012-06-01 Thread Michael Meeks
* Present: + Norbert, Rainer, David, Stephan (Astron), Stephan B, Fridrich, Tor, Kohei, Cedric, Petr, Michael, Andras, Thorsten, Caolan, Eike, Kendy, Alexander, Markus, Bjoern + ran out of phone-lines - urk. * Completed Action Items +

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] request for projector testing ...

2012-06-01 Thread Michael Meeks
On Fri, 2012-06-01 at 11:25 +0200, Cor Nouws wrote: Interesting that this area still takes some of your attention ;-) Anything to get rid of the embarrassingly malingering ESC action item I was given in this area ;-) ATB, Michael. -- michael.me...@suse.com ,

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Spell check problems after update

2012-06-04 Thread Michael Meeks
On Sat, 2012-06-02 at 08:09 +0200, Rainer Bielefeld wrote: I observe a remarkable number of bug reports concerning spell check problems after update during the last days. Unfortunately quality of those reports is lousy, so that it is difficult to find out what the reason might be, but I am

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Gerrit auto-merge

2012-06-04 Thread Michael Meeks
On Sat, 2012-06-02 at 08:54 +0200, Lionel Elie Mamane wrote: Ah, that's very different. So essentially people that now have immediate gratification^W commit rights would go back to one day delay? Nah - as Bjoern says this is only for non-trivial patches that the reviewer is not

[Libreoffice-qa] [Fwd: Re: Cleaning bug list]

2012-06-08 Thread Michael Meeks
I guess this should have been CC'd here ... Forwarded Message From: Joel Madero jmadero@gmail.com To: Rainer Bielefeld libreoff...@bielefeldundbuss.de Cc: libreoff...@lists.freedesktop.org Subject: Re: Cleaning bug list Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2012 23:49:52 -0700 Sure thing, I'll

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Cleaning bug list

2012-06-08 Thread Michael Meeks
Hi Joel, On Thu, 2012-06-07 at 23:49 -0700, Joel Madero wrote: Sure thing, I'll include it here and add a link as soon as I post over at freedesktop bugs This is prolly best on the libreoffice-qa list (I just CC'd it) - but it's interesting on the hackers list too. Your cleanup sounds

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [ANN] LibreOffice 3.6.0 ALPHA1 test builds available

2012-06-08 Thread Michael Meeks
On Fri, 2012-06-08 at 00:36 +0200, Bjoern Michaelsen wrote: On Thu, Jun 07, 2012 at 10:45:51AM -0700, Pedro wrote: Does Bad luck mean Tough luck for Windows 2000 users because we are not even going to try to fix that? Also please consider yourself part of we. Ah - I think it's a

[Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...

2012-06-15 Thread Michael Meeks
* Present: + Norbert, Rainer, Eike, Lionel, Michael, Stephan, Andras, Cedric, Bjoern, Kendy, Astron, Petr, Mitch * Completed Action Items + add encryption default UI option in 3.6 (Thorsten) + poke at Windows 8 certification requirements (Andras)

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...

2012-06-25 Thread Michael Meeks
Hi Cor, On Sun, 2012-06-24 at 23:23 +0200, Cor Nouws wrote: Michael Meeks wrote (21-06-12 17:55) * 3.5 bugs tagged with 'regression' + 179(+12) bugs open of 631(+17) total [...] Just taking a quick look at issues from the query below, I would suggest to skip mentioning numbers

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Is fdo#43460 done and can be closed? Or: status of EasyHacks in Bugzilla is important too

2012-06-25 Thread Michael Meeks
On Fri, 2012-06-22 at 11:12 +0200, Philipp Riemer wrote: status NEW https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=43460. As far as I understand the comments, it is completed and can either be closed or needs new input: Nice catch; found closed :-) Thanks,

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] BugHunt Session ...Re: [libreoffice-projects] Re: minutes of the libreoffice qa call 2012-06-14

2012-06-26 Thread Michael Meeks
On Mon, 2012-06-25 at 19:38 +0200, Cor Nouws wrote: What do others think? If it gets us more testing of 3.6 - it sounds like an excellent idea to me :-) ATB, Michael. -- michael.me...@suse.com , Pseudo Engineer, itinerant idiot

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] bug 46250

2012-06-28 Thread Michael Meeks
On Wed, 2012-06-27 at 19:12 +0200, VLB1 wrote: The bug 46250 is begin in 3.5.0 and still in 3.6.0 beta 2! With a code pointer it might be an easy-hack I suppose. The calc team had a really good drive to reduce their regression count - but we lost Kohei for vacation for the last several

[Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...

2012-06-29 Thread Michael Meeks
* Present: + Eike, Astron, Markus, Rainer, Michael, Kendy, Bjoern, Michael Stahl, Caolan, David, Cedric, Andras, Petr, Lionel * Completed Action Items + icons: poke Mango authors (Michael) + revert 3.6 to opaque background on Win7 (Kendy) * Pending

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...

2012-06-29 Thread Michael Meeks
On Fri, 2012-06-29 at 14:51 +0200, Noel Grandin wrote: On 2012-06-29 14:47, Caolán McNamara wrote: I looked through some of these, some patches are just experimental stuff or debugging patches or obsolete stuff. Maybe we should have some way of marking bugs in in-progress or

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Importing from Mindview worth our time??

2012-06-30 Thread Michael Meeks
On Fri, 2012-06-29 at 17:35 -0700, Joel Madero wrote: One of my mein concerns is that we aren't keeping up with bug reports so we may close a bug at eol without anyone from QA or any developer ever looking at it. To me this seems unfair to the reporter. We could append a statement

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...

2012-07-03 Thread Michael Meeks
On Mon, 2012-07-02 at 18:35 +0200, Lionel Elie Mamane wrote: On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 09:56:32AM +0100, Michael Meeks wrote: * CXX0X-ABI incompatibility can of worms (Bjoern) + gcc 4.7 - cxx0x extension is binary incompatible + incompatible stdlib symbols that bust

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Bug with dBase-data

2012-07-05 Thread Michael Meeks
Hi Bodo, On Thu, 2012-07-05 at 14:17 +0200, Bodo Rittershofer wrote: I am working with Windows 7/64. Every time I try to open dBase-data LibreOffice (latest version) LO stops working and doesn’t react any more. Working with the same dBase Data in Open Office is no problem. Please fix that

[Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...

2012-07-08 Thread Michael Meeks
* Present + Rainer, Markus, Mirek, Mitch, Michael, Michael S, Eike, Ellie, Thorsten, Bjoern, Kohei, Cedric * Completed action items + file GSoC / mentor session for Berlin (Cedric) + look into cppunit related build issues on Win32 / master (Michael) +

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Excel Function Meta Bug?

2012-07-12 Thread Michael Meeks
Hi Joel, On Wed, 2012-07-11 at 23:03 -0700, Joel Madero wrote: I tend to agree and disagree. I think that ultimately it could dampen creativity but we have to consider some of the facts: Heh - well, there is ongoing work to make us more interoperable. Last I looked there were some

[Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...

2012-07-12 Thread Michael Meeks
* Present: + Pierre-Eric, Stephan, Lionel, Eike, Bjoern, Michael, Cedric, Astron, Thorsten, Rainer, Caolan, David, Petr * Completed Action Items + fix gerrit moderation issues (Bjoern) + help Mirek update Mac installer artwork (Thorsten) + always

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Insulting comments in bug reports: what should we do?

2012-07-19 Thread Michael Meeks
On Wed, 2012-07-18 at 19:33 +0200, Rainer Bielefeld wrote: may be, but as Alex said, I also see such slips from time to time and some latent aggressiveness (and also rather good work). Right - it is worth bearing in mind that if someone has had their document data lost / corrupted by

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Open Issues

2012-08-01 Thread Michael Meeks
On Wed, 2012-08-01 at 01:19 +0200, Bjoern Michaelsen wrote: On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 09:09:27AM -0700, Joel Madero wrote: Do we have an ongoing list of open issues that we keep track of and up to date? Yes, its called bugzilla. ;) Heh - I guess it is a fair point that some

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [ANN] LibreOffice 3.6.0 RC4 test builds available

2012-08-01 Thread Michael Meeks
On Sun, 2012-07-29 at 10:55 +0200, khagaroth wrote: I just installed RC4 and the bug of not starting on first run (only the splash shows up and then nothing) is back (it was there for 3.5 and then fixed if I remember correctly). Yep - this is back for 3.6.0 but fixed for 3.6.1 - OTOH,

[Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...

2012-08-02 Thread Michael Meeks
* Present: + Norbert, Stephan, Rainer, Michael, Bjoern, Kohei, Caolan, Christian, Kendy, Petr, Cedric, Michael S, Astron * Completed Action Items + quest for kind volunteer to update the website (Michael) + thanks to Marc ! + another review for

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...

2012-08-06 Thread Michael Meeks
On Mon, 2012-08-06 at 10:49 +0200, Rainer Bielefeld wrote: There simply is a lot of ignorance and misunderstanding on disc...@de.libreoffice.org, it seems they believe all developers are sitting around bored and need some pushing of German users so that they start working.

[Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...

2012-08-09 Thread Michael Meeks
* Present + Kohei, Rainer, Cedric, Lionel, Eike, Astron, Andras, Stephan, Caolan, Michael, Thorsten, Norbert, Kendy, Michael S, Petr * Completed Action Items + task selection for LibreOffice 4 wiki: +

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Fwd: [tdf-announce] The Document Foundation announces LibreOffice 3.6 with a wealth of new features and improvements

2012-08-13 Thread Michael Meeks
Hi Timur, On Fri, 2012-08-10 at 12:16 +0200, Timur Gadzo wrote: I'm asking for EXPLANATION in the first post when will FIXES for bugs resolved in MAB 3.5 be included in LO 3.6 CODE. Ah ! sorry, I mis-understood :-) so the generic answer to: when will XYZ bug be fixed ?

[Libreoffice-qa] top #n bugs tracking ...

2012-08-13 Thread Michael Meeks
Hi there, So - in the attempt to get something concretely actionable out of this; I liked this idea: On Sat, 2012-08-11 at 12:30 -0700, bfo wrote: Call for bugs (CFB). I think that CFB should be introduced in the release schedule (example

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Fwd: [tdf-announce] The Document Foundation announces LibreOffice 3.6 with a wealth of new features and improvements

2012-08-14 Thread Michael Meeks
Hi there, On Mon, 2012-08-13 at 09:38 -0700, bfo wrote: Unfortunately those graphs are discouraging in many ways. Especially if one thinks about upgrading LO... Sure - of course I want to get on people's case ;-) we don't show any visibility of the overall number of non-regression bugs

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Fwd: [tdf-announce] The Document Foundation announces LibreOffice 3.6 with a wealth of new features and improvements

2012-08-14 Thread Michael Meeks
On Mon, 2012-08-13 at 19:33 +0200, Bjoern Michaelsen wrote: I can assure you they are. The best way to get a bug solved is: ... Once you are there, it is orders of magnitude easier to go ahead with the bug. Sure - the problem is then for developers to sift out these bugs where a ton of

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Fwd: [tdf-announce] The Document Foundation announces LibreOffice 3.6 with a wealth of new features and improvements

2012-08-21 Thread Michael Meeks
Hi there, On Tue, 2012-08-14 at 04:57 -0700, bfo wrote: One thing I'd like to do is make a developers' portal - we can use as a homepage, with easy-to-use boxes to lookup bug numbers, and interesting reports on the page: that might be rather a good way of advertising the latest

[Libreoffice-qa] [Fwd: [Bug 53640] PIVOTTABLE from Datasource (Base, Query) shows wrong results]

2012-08-23 Thread Michael Meeks
JFYI, Yes we ship with bugs, and yes we get flamed for it - perhaps that makes me lap up the appreciation for Kohei's good work fixing things :-) ATB, Michael. Forwarded Message From: bugzilla-dae...@freedesktop.org To: michael.me...@novell.com

[Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...

2012-09-06 Thread Michael Meeks
* Present: + Norbert, Lionel, David, Andras, Kendy, Michael M, Stephan, Mitch, Michael S, Petr, Tor, Cedric, Caolan, Astron, Kohei * Completed Action Items + notify QA list of need for calc / late-feature testing (Eike) + invite successful GSOC students to come

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] How Can I Provide More Info For Developers

2012-09-07 Thread Michael Meeks
Hi John, On Fri, 2012-09-07 at 19:10 +0200, John Smith wrote: Maybe im just dumb, but: Once you have provided a reliable and reproducible test case (in this case, download the odt file attached to the report and save it as docx in libreoffice), is there still a need to provide further info at

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Reporting Ignorant User on FDO?

2012-09-12 Thread Michael Meeks
Hi Joel, On Tue, 2012-09-11 at 22:31 -0700, Joel Madero wrote: Is there a way to report users on FDO. This is in regards to the comment made here by user Urmas https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=40025 Not that I know of; sounds like we need one though :-) I tend to not

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] First results of a survey of bugs reports related to Mac OS X accessibility features

2012-09-17 Thread Michael Meeks
Hi Roman, On Sat, 2012-09-15 at 18:00 +0200, Roman Eisele wrote: As said above, my survey is not completed yet, and I will give you a more detailed analysis when I am done -- especially about the bugs which still need action by bugwranglers and/or developers ! Thanks for doing all

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...

2012-09-20 Thread Michael Meeks
On Thu, 2012-09-20 at 18:19 +0200, Bjoern Michaelsen wrote: On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 04:24:09PM +0100, Michael Meeks wrote: * Present: + propose new Difficulty: DifficultyHard Eek, multiple questions on that: - What would be the difference to DifficultyInteresting in hard

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...

2012-09-24 Thread Michael Meeks
On Sun, 2012-09-23 at 10:38 +0200, Tommy wrote: I hope I did not create too much problems with that... Personally, I think donating is a great way to contribute. On the other hand, lets stop spamming the developers list ;-) Thanks, Michael. --

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] LO 3.6.2 : about Manage dialog from Conditional Formatting

2012-09-26 Thread Michael Meeks
Hi there, On Wed, 2012-09-26 at 06:35 +0200, Jean-Baptiste Faure wrote: Nobody interested to test and answer? Sigh - people are busy; in particular Markus - whose baby this is has just put in a great chunk of bug-fixing work for 3.6.2 / 3.6.3 to improve lots of conditional formatting

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [ANN] LibreOffice 3.6.2 RC2 test builds available

2012-09-27 Thread Michael Meeks
Hi Andras, On Thu, 2012-09-27 at 15:45 +0200, Andras Timar wrote: I am going to fix it over the weekend. But in case the fix does not get into 3.6 branch in time, a simple workaround is to add --disable-gtk to the configuration for Windows and MacOS X builds. Isn't that just a matter

[Libreoffice-qa] [PUSHED-3-6] disable gtk ...

2012-09-27 Thread Michael Meeks
On Thu, 2012-09-27 at 18:36 +0200, Andras Timar wrote: Isn't that just a matter of adding it to the distro-config files ? having custom configure settings on release build machines is a disaster-area :-) I agree, please cherry pick

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] media / gstreamer testing request ...

2012-09-29 Thread Michael Meeks
Hi there, On Fri, 2012-09-28 at 23:52 +0200, Jean-Baptiste Faure wrote: Le 28/09/2012 10:58, Michael Meeks a écrit : The other day I pushed a media speedup for all platforms, and a gstreamer media / thumbnailing win for Linux to master. What do you mean by media speedup ? When loading

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] bibisect fro windows

2012-10-02 Thread Michael Meeks
On Mon, 2012-10-01 at 23:58 +0200, Thorsten Behrens wrote: For the final repo, depending on the final sizes, it would be lovely to have some exponential backoff for older versions. If 3.4 and 3.3 builds are too much of a hassle, could we then please simply add all our canned binaries from

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Hard Hacks Wiki

2012-10-04 Thread Michael Meeks
Hi Joel, On Tue, 2012-10-02 at 11:41 -0700, Joel Madero wrote: I've created a hard hacks wiki where we can keep track of proposed hard hacks and then have an easy to go to list to discuss during our conference calls. Here is the link: Sounds good to me :-)

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [proposal] [QA-WE Essen 2012] Bug submission API - How to improve the current system

2012-10-04 Thread Michael Meeks
On Wed, 2012-10-03 at 21:19 +0200, Nino Novak wrote: To cut it short, we came to the conclusion, that a Bug Submission API (BS-API) would be very helpful. Could you elaborate a little the why?? Heh - it sounds like a nice way to report bugs to me. Of course, it also sounds like it

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] fdo#33302 Hard Hack + proposed change to process

2012-10-08 Thread Michael Meeks
Hi Joel, On Fri, 2012-10-05 at 10:23 -0700, Joel Madero wrote: I'm cleaning up and adding fixed hard hacks to the wiki Great - I re-ordered the page to put the big bug query at the bottom; added some more moderate comment on the 3.5 MAB list - and added the list of fixed hardhacks with

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] 10,000th Bug Report!

2012-10-08 Thread Michael Meeks
On Mon, 2012-10-08 at 10:43 -0700, Joel Madero wrote: I just randomly did a pull on FDO of all bugs reported under LibO and saw that we've hit the 10,000 (exactly) number. I know it's strange to celebrate bug reports but that's a pretty cool milestone as it means our users are reporting

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [ANNOUNCE] libreoffice-3.6.3.2 tag created

2012-10-25 Thread Michael Meeks
On Tue, 2012-10-23 at 18:49 +0200, Anton Meixome wrote: Few days ago I have sent a important bug for integration. I know that here, in lists is not the way for manage it, but... Drat - I suspect the 3.6.3 process overlapping with the conference and/or the openSUSE conference + labs

[Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...

2012-10-26 Thread Michael Meeks
* Present: + Eike, David, Kendy, Astron, Markus, Stephan, Caolan, Bjoern, Michael M, Kohei, Thorsten, Joel * Completed Action Items + fdo#55290 - master doesn't install on windows (dtardon) + build a list of Certified / developer names for Italo (Michael)

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Request hold 3.6.3 final release for fdo#53474 - Windows Accessibility

2012-10-26 Thread Michael Meeks
On Fri, 2012-10-26 at 08:29 -0700, V Stuart Foote wrote: Problems with the daily TinderBox builds took the better part of two weeks to get the initial commit for this issue tested. I had to ask to have it pushed down on the -3-6 build for testing because there has not been a viable

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] want to contribute

2012-10-31 Thread Michael Meeks
Hi Rizwan, It'd be great to have you involved with LibreOffice :-) On Wed, 2012-10-31 at 01:23 +0530, Rizwan Alam wrote: I want to contribute to libreoffice how ever i do not have experience. I am a bit confused. I was thinking about doing testing can any one help me out. So

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] 3.6 Features webpage -- update Most Annoying Bugs section

2012-11-02 Thread Michael Meeks
Hi Marc, On Fri, 2012-11-02 at 05:25 -0400, Marc Paré wrote: Unless I am mistaken, all the bugs mentioned in the Most Annoying Bugs section (bottom of page) of our 3.6 Features webpage have been resolved? Can I go ahead and update that section with strike-throughs and mark them as

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Online update testing

2012-11-02 Thread Michael Meeks
Hi Pedro, On Wed, 2012-10-24 at 03:20 -0700, Pedro wrote: ol klaus-jürgen weghorn wrote my 3.6.2.1 is up to date. Shouldn't be so. My 3.5.7.1 install reports LibreOffice 3.5 is up to date. Shouldn't be so. Sorry - I've not published the ESC minutes yet; Kendy is pulling the lever

[Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...

2012-11-02 Thread Michael Meeks
* Present: + Kendy, Stephan, Eike, Markus, Michael M, Petr, Lubos, Norbert, Thorsten, Caolan, Ahmad. + bad week for US overlap; regrets from Joel etc. * Completed Action Items + issues to look into if we can + fdo#34548 - review Michael's patch

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