Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [Fwd: [libreoffice-design] Issue with new bug reporting assistant]

2011-09-24 Thread Rainer Bielefeld
Christoph Noack schrieb: http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/bug/, Firefox shows the message 'This connection isn't trusted'. Hi, I can't confirm that. I very often see such messages, but not for the assistant with WIN7 FF 6.0.2 CU Rauber ___

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Bug Submission Assistant https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/bug/

2011-09-25 Thread Rainer Bielefeld
Christoph Noack schrieb: @ Rainer: The current bug submission assistant is great basis to continue! Nevertheless, it contains some usability issues already addressed in the proposed interaction design [1] (e.g. confirmation for submit, checking for similar bugs). So how to prepare that for

[Libreoffice-qa] Bug Submission Assistant Project

2011-09-27 Thread Rainer Bielefeld
Hi, to be honest: I completely lost the overview what's going on to fulfill what needs. CU Rainer ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings:

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Some bugtracker cleaning ?

2011-09-28 Thread Rainer Bielefeld
Julien Nabet schrieb: ok with the new version, could I simply close it (with of course a comment which explains why) ? Hi, I did it, that's the way how it should be done. you read http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/BugReport, http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/BugReport_Details? If you

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Bug Submission Assistant : double submissions problem fixed

2011-09-29 Thread Rainer Bielefeld
Loic Dachary schrieb: I noticed a few duplicate entries and figured they were caused by double clicks on the submit button. Hi, sounds good, I will additionally test the fix with a new report and mark [Bug 41300] New: BUGZILLAASSISTANT: Missing Message that Attachment has been uploaded

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Some bugtracker cleaning ?

2011-10-03 Thread Rainer Bielefeld
Hi, are you still active observing long time unconfirmed bugs? We do not have many rules for that, but it's recommended to start such actions lsowly, may be someone brings up new aspects after a short while. If you have any questions please do not hesitate to Thank you for your help Rainer

[Libreoffice-qa] Minutes - QA related - TSC call 2011-10-20

2011-10-20 Thread Rainer Bielefeld
Hi, you can find a summery concerning QA related discussion of the Engineering Steering Committee on http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/RBd/TSC_Call_Minutes Kind regards Rainer ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address:

[Libreoffice-qa] Minutes - QA related - TSC call 2011-10-27

2011-10-27 Thread Rainer Bielefeld
Hi, you can find a summery (from my point of view) concerning QA related discussion of the Engineering Steering Committee on http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/RBd/TSC_Call_Minutes Kind regards Rainer ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail

[Libreoffice-qa] Bugzilla Query puzzling

2011-11-12 Thread Rainer Bielefeld
Hello, I am just trying to create a reliable bug needs review for Confirmation. 1. step was

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Bugzilla Query puzzling

2011-11-12 Thread Rainer Bielefeld
Rainer Bielefeld schrieb: Hello, now I know (writing such a mail always helps), UNCONFIRMED bugs are all missing. But why? Rainer ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [Bug 41898] No icons in executables

2011-11-16 Thread Rainer Bielefeld
Pedro Lino schrieb: If all of them start pumping daily releases which one(s) should we test? Hi, we will have to find out. I see you are interested in QA-affairs, so you should subscribe libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org, where these questions should be discussed. Currently I install

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [Libreoffice] New Windows tinderbox: Windows 2008R2

2011-11-28 Thread Rainer Bielefeld
Michael Meeks schrieb: I believe we switched our packaging format from NSIS .exe's to the new .msi installs that you see now. Hi, the problem simply might be missing manual. We have a how to on https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Installing_in_parallel#Windows for doing a server

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [Libreoffice] New Windows tinderbox: Windows 2008R2

2011-11-29 Thread Rainer Bielefeld
Rainer Bielefeld schrieb: GUID) aren't possible with MSI. If what Rainer wants is to have stable version of LibreOffice installed along with a testing version, Or more precisely: I have 10 ... 20 Master versions on my PC so that I can check where a regression came into the code

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [Libreoffice] New Windows tinderbox: Windows 2008R2

2011-11-29 Thread Rainer Bielefeld
Fridrich Strba schrieb: Instead of setup.exe /a one should call msiexec.exe /a Hello, yes, that will work (and I remember that we already had this proceeding for a while). I added some hints on https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Installing_in_parallel#Windows Kind regards Rainer

[Libreoffice-qa] WIN-Tinderbox related bugs

2011-12-01 Thread Rainer Bielefeld
Hello, since beginning of the week we have many new builds from different tinderboxes. We had a significant increased number of bugs during these days, and there is a suspect that some of them might be related to the tinderbox from where the build is. First investigations seem to falsify

[Libreoffice-qa] LibO 3.5.0 Beta 0 First assessment

2011-12-02 Thread Rainer Bielefeld
Hello, it's a disaster, completely unusable! Quality of Beta0 is far behind quality of Master during the last weeks, it seems that we were not lucky with the time where the tag has been created ad got a very broken source. Shit happens, now the question is how we will go on. I am afraid we

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] LibO 3.5.0 Beta 0 First assessment

2011-12-03 Thread Rainer Bielefeld
Pedro Lino schrieb: So what do we (QA) do now? Is there some protocol? Are there tasks to split? By how many? Hi, we should see how many and severe bugs really are Beta only, that means to correct Version if the bug is from a more early version. If we are lucky only few bugs will remain

[Libreoffice-qa] Problems Using existing User Profile after upgrade to 3.5

2011-12-03 Thread Rainer Bielefeld
Hi, currently I have much trouble using existing user profiles with Master or 3.5.0 Beta. The trouble vanishes when I switch to a blank new user profile for. I believe that might cause heavy trouble when users update from 3.4 8or 3.3), but on the other hand my suspect might be complete

[Libreoffice-qa] RESET - BACK button text and function interchanged

2011-12-04 Thread Rainer Bielefeld
Hello, may I ask you to comment in Bug 43515 - [Task]: RESET / BACK button text and function interchanged https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=43515 and Bug 43516 - LOCALHELP: Help text for BACK button describes RESET https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=43516 always when you

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] LibO 3.5.0 Beta 0 First assessment

2011-12-04 Thread Rainer Bielefeld
Cor Nouws schrieb: AFAIAC, no need to say sorry for that. It's part of our work that we carry that happily, isn't it, Rainer ;-) Hi, Yes! I did not want to blame anyone, I only regretted our mishap to catch one of the worse ones of the Source stages of development. And for me Cor's idea

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] RESET - BACK button text and function interchanged

2011-12-04 Thread Rainer Bielefeld
Pedro Lino schrieb: The function Back doesn't make any sense. If the idea is to Undo the values that you changed and you haven't Saved then you already have the Cancel button. Hi Pedro, No, I disagree. Some dialogs have varioust TABs, and if you only want to undo edits in one of them, it's

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] RESET - BACK button text and function interchanged

2011-12-04 Thread Rainer Bielefeld
Pedro Lino schrieb: But then the button should be simply named Undo not Back. Back is used to move to the previous dialog (as you can see in any installer under any OS). Hi, yes, If that does not hurt other rules (Consitency Operating System or what ever) I would prefer Undo Rainer

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [ANN] LibreOffice 3.5.0 beta0 available

2011-12-05 Thread Rainer Bielefeld
Thorsten Behrens schrieb: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Releases/3.5.0/Beta0 Hello, I added a comment concerning install / uninstall problems on SIN 64 bit systems. Best regards Rainer ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [Libreoffice] removed testtool

2011-12-08 Thread Rainer Bielefeld
August Sodora schrieb: I have removed the testtool and am listing the relevant commits here Hi, we have a wiki webpage concerning testtool: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Testing/Using_Testtool Some info should be added CU Rainer ___

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] End of the line for 3.3 family and regressions

2011-12-10 Thread Rainer Bielefeld
Pedro Lino schrieb: Looking at the Release Plan chart Pedro Lino schrieb: Hi, I am just preparing some information concerning such regression problems we will discuss during next TSC call on Thursday before I publish it. The current results are completely in accordance with Pedro's

[Libreoffice-qa] Please do not submit Bug reports concerning 3.5 Beta0

2011-12-15 Thread Rainer Bielefeld
Hi, some bad luck, that version 3.5 Beta0 was terrible buggy. I believe it's not useful to do tests with tat version, please wait for Beta1 (just uploading to mirrors) ad do your tests with that version (or with Master from http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/, of course). Tests with Beta0

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Minutes - QA related - TSC call 2011-12-05

2011-12-15 Thread Rainer Bielefeld
Hi, unfortunately pdf gaining results of my research is based on a wrong query, we have only 24 known unfixed regressions in Master, not 80. I will correct that tomorrow. Best regards Rainer ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address:

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [Libreoffice] Remember the RTL interface

2011-12-16 Thread Rainer Bielefeld
Lior Kaplan schrieb: As 3.5.0 enters the first beta (ok, ok - beta0), I'd like to remind you on the RTL stuff from the conference last month. Hi, please review, correct and complete my modifications on http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/BugReport_Details and

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Issue with Text Animations in LibO-3.5-beta1

2011-12-17 Thread Rainer Bielefeld
Andreas Mantke schrieb: [...] in 3.4.4 everything works smoothly, but in 3.5.0-beta1 there is no text animation available. If there are more than one animation on the slide, I got on a click the slide with the text again and again. Thus the the actions (mouse clicks) seemed to be recognized

[Libreoffice-qa] QA-Team Web page

2012-01-05 Thread Rainer Bielefeld
Hi all, compared to other active LibreOffice teams, User-QA currently has a very rare Web page [1] with few, outdated and not inviting contents. So we should improve the current page. I started a new QA-Team Page [2], what should - be up to date - give an overview concerning active User QA

[Libreoffice-qa] Minutes - QA related - TSC call 2012-01-05

2012-01-11 Thread Rainer Bielefeld
Hi, you can find a summery from my point of view concerning QA related discussion of the Engineering Steering Committee on http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/RBd/TSC_Call_Minutes Best regards Rainer ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Minutes - QA related - TSC call 2012-01-12

2012-01-12 Thread Rainer Bielefeld
Pedro schrieb: Hello Pedro, Took the liberty of fixing the date and some typos ;) THX! What do you mean OOo has a 3.4 Beta? Are you referring to the old Beta released in April 2011? Yes, of course, I can't imagine why it seemed new to me. Have to wipe my glasses again. ... worry

[Libreoffice-qa] Bug 37361 - LibreOffice 3.5 most annoying bugs

2012-01-25 Thread Rainer Bielefeld
Hi Petr, can you help me to find the WIN - LibreOffice 3.5 most annoying bugs? ;-) Or was the modification a Bugzilla arbitrary act? BTW, I definitively added Bug 45219 to the list, and I remember that I read already of at least 1 other user who was sure th have added the bug and did not find

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Bug bestätigen...

2012-01-27 Thread Rainer Bielefeld
Florian Reisinger schrieb: Hi, Language for this list is English! http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa first line below heading Please announce such bugs nowhere! On no mailing list! Everybody who is interested in Bug confirming knows how to find them in Bugzilla,

[Libreoffice-qa] Minutes - QA related - TSC call 2012-01-26

2012-01-28 Thread Rainer Bielefeld
Hi, you can find a summery from my point of view concerning QA related discussion of the Engineering Steering Committee on http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/RBd/TSC_Call_Minutes Best regards Rainer ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Minutes - QA related - TSC call 2012-01-26

2012-01-28 Thread Rainer Bielefeld
Pedro schrieb: More intensive testing is not the problem. Your TSC summary shows there are still 80 regressions. At a rate of 1 fix per day that would take over 2.5 months. Hi, I am afraid that is too optimistic; Oct-Dec 2011 115 regressions have been fixed, but during the same time 64 new

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Minutes - QA related - TSC call 2012-01-26

2012-01-30 Thread Rainer Bielefeld
Michael Meeks schrieb: getting the regressions query in front of more people would be good: [ a nice, short, easy to paste, minute and re-find stored query for that would be great ;-) ]. Hi, Petr added Regression query links to

[Libreoffice-qa] Minutes - QA related - TSC call 2012-02-09

2012-02-12 Thread Rainer Bielefeld
Hi, you can find a summery from my point of view concerning QA related discussion of the Engineering Steering Committee on http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/RBd/TSC_Call_Minutes Best regards Rainer ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] AOOo Issues [From Symphony]

2012-02-14 Thread Rainer Bielefeld
Thorsten Behrens schrieb: Hmm - any other way here, without having to pollute a foreign bugtracker with LibO-specifics? A static list in the wiki maybe? Hi, I deal with your concerns, a consequent addition of bug numbers, so that I can adapt the query link (or the reviewer can add new AOOo

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] AOOo Issues [From Symphony]

2012-02-14 Thread Rainer Bielefeld
Christian Lohmaier schrieb: In the wiki you could use the easy-hacks method, i.e. use a query and add it to the page using the feed tag.. Hi, great tool, unfortunatly I do not have experince at all. how will it recognize ÁOoo Issues that have been reviewed by LibO QA? I would have to add

[Libreoffice-qa] Bugzilla Page view - comment text line length

2012-02-14 Thread Rainer Bielefeld
Hello, I have been used to see Bugzilla respecting my screen width, for nearby all bugs Bugzilla line length for the comments matched with my screen width. Some days ago behavior changed, Page heading and footer still match perfectly with screen width, but now the text lines of comments are

[Libreoffice-qa] How to reopen Bug reports

2012-02-29 Thread Rainer Bielefeld
Hello, I added some comments what should be mentioned before reopening a bug report on https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/BugReport_Details#How_to_reopen_Bugs (and https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA-FAQ#How_to_reopen_a_bug) Please feel free to complete my hints. Best regards Rainer

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] How to reopen Bug reports

2012-02-29 Thread Rainer Bielefeld
Pedro schrieb: Sorry for the noise. Hi, no problem, nothing teaches as much as mistakes we do ;-) I will add some refinements from discussion here to the Wiki if nobody else will have done until then. ATB Rainer ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa

[Libreoffice-qa] Migrationsleitfaden des Bundes (Migration Guide)

2012-03-07 Thread Rainer Bielefeld
Hi, today I got a hint by Mike Schinagl that the new Migrationsleitfaden des Bundes 4.0 has been released. Some comments in German you find here http://www.heise.de/open/meldung/Migrationsleitfaden-des-Bundes-in-neuer-Version-erschienen-1463867.html, you can download the document from

[Libreoffice-qa] Nelp needed for Bug 47052 Recovery fails because no access to AppData Temp folder

2012-03-12 Thread Rainer Bielefeld
Hi, I have serious problems with Recovery, what does not work. If that's a general problem that would be really critical. Can you please try to reproduce? Today I observed that my User Profile no longer contains a Backup folder - intended or part of the bug? I accidently sent this mail

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [ANN] LibreOffice 3.4.6 RC2 test builds available

2012-03-14 Thread Rainer Bielefeld
Bjoern Michaelsen schrieb: We need to be sure to detect and pinpoint regressions earlier and more precise than in 3.4 Hi, That's at least an important part of the truth, when 3.4.0 release came only 15 regressions were known (bud keyword handling was very arbitrary in those days). Let's

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [ANN] LibreOffice 3.4.6 RC2 test builds available

2012-03-15 Thread Rainer Bielefeld
Dag Wieers schrieb: So it's hard to quantify what 0 reports means, no regressions or no user-testing ? https://bugs.freedesktop.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advancedversion=LibO%203.4.6%20RC1product=LibreOffice CU Rainer ___ List Name:

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Regressions in Open Source projects ...

2012-03-16 Thread Rainer Bielefeld
Hi, I do not want to invest too much time into this discussion, because that only hinders me and you all to contribute to the project and to solve the problems. But I strongly disagree with all belittlement of regressions. Although IMHO creation of 3.5.0 has been a good job, it would not be

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Regressions in Open Source projects ...

2012-03-16 Thread Rainer Bielefeld
Thorsten Behrens schrieb: Bubli fixed that meanwhile on master - any chance you could test whether Hi, yes, I will do a test soon. Thx for hint Rainer ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Regressions in Open Source projects ...

2012-03-16 Thread Rainer Bielefeld
Rainer Bielefeld schrieb: yes, I will do a test soon. Hi, I still suffer from Bug 44489 - MinGW: Will not launch, so I will have to wait for the next Master from other source. CU Rainer ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Regressions in Open Source projects ...

2012-03-16 Thread Rainer Bielefeld
Bjoern Michaelsen schrieb: Hi, you wrote some similar ideas I had, but I was doubtful concerning viability. May be we can discuss some suggestions during the next QA call, I will be prepared. If we would have a branch WIN build every week, I would find lots of Bugs (if we have bugs), and

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Regressions in Open Source projects ...

2012-03-20 Thread Rainer Bielefeld
Hi, now I did the test, Works fine for me with parallel Server installation of LOdev 3.5.2rc0+ [Build ID: ec752de-73cb0b8-f269e46] Win-x86@6-fast pull time 2012-03-19 11:08:23 – WIN7 Home Premium (64bit) Best regards Rainer ___ List Name:

[Libreoffice-qa] Minutes - QA related - TSC call 2012-03-22

2012-03-22 Thread Rainer Bielefeld
Hi, you can find a summery concerning QA related discussion of the Engineering Steering Committee on http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/RBd/TSC_Call_Minutes Kind regards Rainer ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address:

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Too many ancient bugs

2012-03-25 Thread Rainer Bielefeld
Florian Reisinger schrieb: I found something rather worse. There are a lot of bugs with version 3.x Hi, of course we will have to review all those

[Libreoffice-qa] EasyHack tags

2012-03-29 Thread Rainer Bielefeld
Hi, I have a question / suggestion concerning EasyHack tags. I do not know whether there has been an agreement, and the Wiki is some wishy-washy I would prefer a standard that ProposedEasyHack is for the Wihiteboard, and a developer deletes that and adds EasyHack to the summary line. That

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Adding RTL Keyword

2012-03-31 Thread Rainer Bielefeld
a key word, but that should be discussed with Lior Kaplan l...@gmail.com [5] and others active in this area. Please also mention discussion on this mailing list [6] concerning a Most Annoying RTL Bugs [7]. I hope this information is useful for you Best regards Rainer Bielefeld Hyperlinks

[Libreoffice-qa] Help needed for review 3.4 Most annoying bugs

2012-04-02 Thread Rainer Bielefeld
Hi all, LibO 3.4 lifecycle is terminated, but currently there still are some 3.4 Most annoying bugs open. That's useless, there will be no more 3.4. releases, so we will have to decide whether they are really MAB (then they should be listed under 3.5. MAB) and what circumstances might hinder

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] LibreOffice QA call 2012-04-06 1400UTC

2012-04-06 Thread Rainer Bielefeld
Hi, it seems that it takes very long time (days?) until a contact fequest for 'talkyoo_skype' will be confirmed. I sent a message concerning this problem to Talkyoo support. Best regards Rainer ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail

[Libreoffice-qa] ask.libreoffice Sub Compent in Bugzilla

2012-04-11 Thread Rainer Bielefeld
Hi, Although we currently we do not have any bugs reported for this, I created a (currently temporary) new Sub component ASKLIBREOFFICE for WWW, what will appear in the BUGZILLAASISSTANT with the next update. I thought a while to take ASK (what also currently is unused with component WWW),

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Should I update to 3.5

2012-04-11 Thread Rainer Bielefeld
Cor Nouws schrieb: Hi Rainer, - it easily gives the perception of a product that is not good enough; Hi Cor, Hi Florian, I believe the appropriate place for such queries considerations whether upgrade might be ASK.LibreOffice. Best regards Rainer

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Should I update to 3.?

2012-04-12 Thread Rainer Bielefeld
Petr Mladek schrieb: Why the query checks for bugs against Master and Daily? Are all of these bugs in 3.5 as well? Hi Petr, I checked for Late Masters until more or less 3.5.0 release by query, and the query only shows unfixed bugs, so that they definitively are in 3.5 (except they became

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Should I update to 3.?

2012-04-12 Thread Rainer Bielefeld
Petr Mladek schrieb: My concern is how to differ regressions between LO-3.5 and LO-3.4 and regressions between current master and LO-3.5. Hi Petr, that is regarded in those queries, (was simple for a .0), query for same research for 3.5.1 introduced regressions will become some more

[Libreoffice-qa] Help needed for Bug 48533 - BUGZILLAASSISTANT stops after click on Submit button with error message

2012-04-12 Thread Rainer Bielefeld
Hi, can someone with Javascript skills please check https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=48533? Until now I was not able to reproduce the problem and my suspect still is that it's a problem with reporter's browser (or similar), but I am not sure. Best regards Rainer

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [ANN] LibreOffice 3.5.3 RC1 test builds available

2012-04-24 Thread Rainer Bielefeld
Petr Mladek schrieb: It is by purpose. We should probably update the subject to make it more clear. What about the following? [ANN] LibreOffice 3.5.3 RC1 builds available for pre-testing Hi, I believe that's a good Idea, subject for these first announcements should be amended as

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Help dealing with this

2012-04-24 Thread Rainer Bielefeld
Kohei Yoshida schrieb: I think we could use some help dealing with an ugly personal attack disguised as a bug report. Hello Kohei, I believe OfficeUser had a bad day when he wrote that lousy bad and incomplete report with wild speculations instead of reviewable facts. We should not attach

[Libreoffice-qa] Impress Documents ODF validation

2012-05-07 Thread Rainer Bielefeld
in the Wiki. We should not test masses of Presentations before preparations will have been finished. Best regards Rainer Bielefeld Hyperlinks: [1] http://www.heise.de/open/meldung/Migrationsleitfaden-des-Bundes-in-neuer-Version-erschienen-1463867.html [2] https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA

[Libreoffice-qa] PM: [Bug 49342] CRASH EDITING TABLE when merge cells in .sxw and others

2012-05-09 Thread Rainer Bielefeld
Hi, I did a little check [1] and found a lot of fixed Bugs listed as 3.5 MAB where fix for 3.5 is not indicated by a target note in the Whiteboard. We should watch that and add target info where possible. Best regards Rainer Hyperlinks: [1]

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...

2012-05-13 Thread Rainer Bielefeld
Tommy schrieb: this looks quite worrisome: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38432 Hi Tommy, yes, I thought about sorting out invalid ones ;-) I created a shared query [2] where INVALID Bugs are excluded and also Bugs that already have been posted for review on

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] bugzilla git hook doesn't always work (Re: PM: [Bug 49342] CRASH EDITING TABLE when merge cells in .sxw and others)

2012-05-16 Thread Rainer Bielefeld
Markus Mohrhard schrieb: Can you explain what you think is missing there? Mi Karkus, my mistake: I only saw the Bugzilla mail Stephan Bergmann committed ... what does not include the target:3.6.0 addition, but that's correct because target:3.6.0 was already in the whiteboard. A quick

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] LibreOffice QA call 2012-05-18 14:00 UTC

2012-05-18 Thread Rainer Bielefeld
Bjoern Michaelsen schrieb: - create a QA EasyHack Gather own bugzilla requirements (Bjoern) - create a wikipage with what we have so far and link to it (Rainer) Hi, I will start that during next week Best regards Rainer ___ List Name:

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] live issues ticker (was: minutes of ESC call ...)

2012-05-18 Thread Rainer Bielefeld
Christian Lohmaier schrieb: + connect Rainer with sysadmins wrt. status/live issues ticker (Thorsten) Hi, I do not need any further information concerning new bugs. I use a query sorting out bugs where already other trusted staff is involved (to avoid double work), and I can't

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Assigning bug to developer - inconsistency in wiki

2012-05-18 Thread Rainer Bielefeld
Korrawit Pruegsanusak schrieb: I saw Rainer now use method [2] ... and if we confirm using method Hello Korrawit, thank you for the hint, today I found the time to correct that. Best regards Rainer ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] LibreOffice QA call 2012-05-18 14:00 UTC

2012-05-18 Thread Rainer Bielefeld
Korrawit Pruegsanusak schrieb: Another topic(?) -- bugzilla version picker for master / daily branch: * do we need to separate builds from master and release branch Hi, I am still a little wishy-washy, but we are not in a hurry - decision will be required when we get the first 3.7.0Alpha

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] live issues ticker (was: minutes of ESC call ...)

2012-05-19 Thread Rainer Bielefeld
M I think the idea was to have a ticker for live sysadmin issues, Yes, that's a part of an idea, I will follow up that soon when some other actions with higher priority will have been finished. Best regards Rainer ___ List Name:

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] minutes of the LibreOffice QA call 2012-05-18 14:00 UTC

2012-05-19 Thread Rainer Bielefeld
Bjoern Michaelsen schrieb: AA+ add yourself on openhatch.org (all) Hi, I think it is a good idea to do some networking, offer help and contribution, ask for volunteers. And may be openhatch.org can be a platform for that. But for all people who have a brain working similar to mine that

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] OpenHatch Bitesize Bugzilla links

2012-05-22 Thread Rainer Bielefeld
Bjoern Michaelsen schrieb: I think this is unavoidable as it seems OpenHatch assumes one bugtracker hosts one project. Hi, so it seems we will have to live with it. Best regard Rainer ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address:

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2012-05-22 Thread Rainer Bielefeld
Yi Fan Jiang schrieb: If you want to file a bug or an enhancement, please report it to freedesktop bugzilla with Product Libreoffice, Component WWW. More details of howto report a bug is described here: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/BugReport#Reporting_a_bug_in_few_Steps Hi, I defined

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Spam on this list

2012-05-22 Thread Rainer Bielefeld
Nino schrieb: Who is in charge of the list? Could you ban this Groupon Urbano spammer? Hi, done! Thank you for the hint. Rainer ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings:

[Libreoffice-qa] How to improve our Bug tracking system

2012-05-22 Thread Rainer Bielefeld
Hi all, as a consequence of our QA related discussions at Hackfest April 2012 in Hamburg http://rrbd.wordpress.com/2012/04/14/hackfest-hamburg-2012/ I now want to start to collect ideas how we can make a big step improving our (Bugzilla) Bug tracking system. The goal is that after we will

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] How to improve our Bug tracking system

2012-05-23 Thread Rainer Bielefeld
Michael Meeks schrieb: It doesn't create a wizard however. The only thing blocking improvements there - the first of which IMHO would be to submit / auto-fill the component and version fields - is a lack of developer resource willing to concretely work on it ;-) Hi, I did some first

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Spam on this list

2012-05-23 Thread Rainer Bielefeld
Terrence Enger schrieb: Might I suggest that body starting Seu cliente de e-mail is a good hint that the message is spam? Hi, I do no know how to create such a filter rule. The ban list seems to be rather useless, it seems that those addresses are not added to a filter rule? I am

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Spam on this list

2012-05-24 Thread Rainer Bielefeld
Christian Lohmaier schrieb: If you're referring to the subscription banlist, then indeed it is not working as that only tells mailman to never subscribe that address. Hi Christian , I did so now after your hint. For more filtering, use the Spam filters option - this is limited to filter

[Libreoffice-qa] Bibisecting

2012-05-30 Thread Rainer Bielefeld
Hi, has already someone tested http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/bibisect/ successfully and can contribute a short manual on https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Bibisect? Best regards Rainer ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address:

[Libreoffice-qa] Bug transfer from AOOo Bugzilla to LibO Bugzilla

2012-05-30 Thread Rainer Bielefeld
Hi, may be you find the time to check and transfer (if necessary) some bugs from AOOo to LibO as I did with [1] to [2]? Some promising Bugs I found with this [3] query. [From Symphony] can help to find more Bugs also interesting for LibO. Discussion if required please on

[Libreoffice-qa] Testing 3.6.0alpha1

2012-06-03 Thread Rainer Bielefeld
Hi, we were not lucky, most users will not be able to do “real life tests” that version because of “Bug 48946 – not find JRE”. I doubt that we will any Bug report for that version because of tests with Alpha1. What do you think about an alpha2? More details and a poll here:

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [EDITING] LibreO version 3.6.0alpha1 (Build ID: 66f01b5) Crash when copying a range with contional format.

2012-06-04 Thread Rainer Bielefeld
Markus Mohrhard schrieb: Can someone verify this regression before report the bug?. Hi, a quick test with an existing document shows a crash with 3.6.0alpha1, but not with parallel installation of Master LOdev 3.6.0alpha0+ – WIN7 Home Premium (64bit) ENGLISH UI [Build ID: 7175cee]

[Libreoffice-qa] New Bugzilla Version Picker items – 2

2012-06-05 Thread Rainer Bielefeld
June 6, 2012 Hello, We branched 3.6 and have a new Master, I have to hurry up a little with my action to revise the Bugzilla version picker contents due to https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Talk:BugReport_Details. Please excuse me for being late with this. First Steps I just created a

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] New Bugzilla Version Picker items – 2

2012-06-09 Thread Rainer Bielefeld
Bjoern Michaelsen schrieb: 3.X.Y_alphaZ - for alpha releases 3.X.Y_betaZ- for beta releases 3.X.Y.Z - for release candidates Hi Bjoern, I think we should only use 1 kind of separator, everything else produces impredictable sort order results in different contexts.

[Libreoffice-qa] Using same User Profile with various users and / or LibO Versions

2012-06-10 Thread Rainer Bielefeld
Hi, it would be great if an expert could add some brief notes on https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/UserProfile concerning following questions: - Is it allowed/possible/useful to use the same User Profile with more than 1 User? - Is it allowed/useful/ to use the same User Profile with

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Add comments when adding MAB

2012-06-13 Thread Rainer Bielefeld
Hi Petr, thank you for the reminder, I also regret that I often only find Bug 12345 added, and I have to go to the bug and have to check what kind of bug it is and why it might be MAB ... please, add comments into the meta bugs when you add new most annoying bugs. One line describing the

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] New Bugzilla Version Picker items – 2

2012-06-15 Thread Rainer Bielefeld
Petr Mladek schrieb: [Second schema] 3.6.0.00x for alphas 3.6.0.0x0 for betas 3.6.0.100 for RC (example) and/or release 3.6.0.200 for RC (example) and/or release 3.6.0.200 for release(example) Hi Petr, this Idea should not exclude additional information, of course we should include tha

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Bibisecting

2012-06-18 Thread Rainer Bielefeld
Hi all, unfortunately I still was too lazy to learn enough concerning bibisecting, but it would be great if those who already have some experience would do some bibisecting for Bugs where that seems useful: - LibO 3.5 or later - Reproduced for Linux I created a new Whiteboard key word

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Cleaning bug list

2012-06-18 Thread Rainer Bielefeld
Joel Madero schrieb: I brainstormed a bit today and I came up with this flowchart. Hi Joel, great to see that all in a chart, your conclusions and definitions seem plausible. But the chart also shows the limitations of that concept: It's really sophisticated, and no developer will sit at

[Libreoffice-qa] New Bugzilla Branch Version Picker items – 3

2012-06-18 Thread Rainer Bielefeld
Hi all, I am happy to see that we have a solution for the general problem, I will change picker texts with 3.6.0.0.beta2 The remaining problem is what we will do with 3.7.0.0.alpha1+daily 3.7.0.0.alpha2+daily 3.7.0.0.beta1+ daily 3.7.0.0.beta2+ daily 3.7.1.0.alpha1+daily

[Libreoffice-qa] Messages to libreoffice-qa rejected

2012-06-18 Thread Rainer Bielefeld
?= My suspect is that that is somehow related to Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed what I find in those mail headings. What ever that might mean. Best regards Rainer Bielefeld ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Who is our expert for general UI/GUI bugs?

2012-06-19 Thread Rainer Bielefeld
Roman Eisele schrieb: our list of Friendly experts at http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/FindTheExpert does not include any expert for general UI/GUI bugs Hi, Ivan Timofeev (timofeev@gmail.com) fixed a lot of general UI problems, I recommend that you ask him whether he agrees to be

[Libreoffice-qa] New Bugzilla Version Picker Contents

2012-06-19 Thread Rainer Bielefeld
Hi all, today in the afternoon I will change the picker contents as discussed: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/BugReport_Details#New_Versions_2012-06-20 For a short while the Bug Submission Assistant will be out of order, please excuse the inconvenience! Best Regards Rainer Bielefeld

[Libreoffice-qa] New Bugzilla Version Picker Contents - Atom Feeds.

2012-06-20 Thread Rainer Bielefeld
Hi, with the new Version picker items your Atom feeds containing Version picker contents will not work any longer, because the picker contents references now will be invalid. You will have to renew the feeds. This also might affect feeds used in the Wiki. Questions, remarks and discussion

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [ANN] LibreOffice 3.6.0.0 beta2 available for testing

2012-06-21 Thread Rainer Bielefeld
Hi all, we want to encourage users to report and to confirm LibreOffice bugs. One important factor whether we will be successful with that attempt is that users get a quick response to their reports. To reach this goal, it would be great if 1 … 2 volunteers could watch Bugzilla for new 3.6.0

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...

2012-06-24 Thread Rainer Bielefeld
Cor Nouws schrieb: Just taking a quick look at issues from the query below, I would suggest to skip mentioning numbers. There is pollution with old issues, Hi, may be! The query is very useful to track and look at the reports. But the number gives a wrong idea of quality. But consider

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